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Apparently the penalty was an awful decision. Even better. Aye it was a bit harsh like. Luke Young jumped to try and get in the way of the ball but he jumped a bit too far and it hit his outstretched arm behind him. Couldn't do much about it. Definite pen. Haven't seen it like, but it was a stone-waller. Yeah I thought so too. It's only fair since Villa gave them a head start by playing Knight. Very true Matt. Fuck you Mark.

Apparently the penalty was an awful decision. Even better. Aye it was a bit harsh like. Luke Young jumped to try and get in the way of the ball but he jumped a bit too far and it hit his outstretched arm behind him. Couldn't do much about it. Definite pen. Haven't seen it like, but it was a stone-waller. Yeah I thought so too. It's only fair since Villa gave them a head start by playing Knight.

Apparently the penalty was an awful decision. Even better. Aye it was a bit harsh like. Luke Young jumped to try and get in the way of the ball but he jumped a bit too far and it hit his outstretched arm behind him. Couldn't do much about it.

From the Beeb: 2127: "Even I'd look good against Derby. Well, maybe not, but you get my point." D Kuyt, Liverpool, via text on 81111

Even a quick glance at Boro and Brum's fixtures will tell you Boro are in much more danger of dropping. It'll be a big point for them though if they get it.

Gazza Bazza you fucking beauty.

Jesus.

Oh ffs.

Duff? Well spotted. 48% of available points without Duff, 6% of them with him. I'll bet you got extremely aroused when you found that statistic. I think the departure of Martins for the ANC was massive, we've been shit ever since. Obviously the change of manager was massive but I really think the loss of Martins played a very big part too. I was stunned actually, I actually thought he'd come back from injury earlier. Doesn't surprise me though. Aye, we have missed Oba big time too.

Duff? Well spotted. 48% of available points without Duff, 6% of them with him.

I was gonna say, Miller got two against us for a start!

There's one factor that kicked this bad run off and has stayed consistent since. And it's not the manager.

I'm not sure where this myth comes from about people saying Leeds were thought of as too good to go down. They were one of the nailed on favourites to go down the season they did, after avoiding relegation by the skin of their teeth the year before, and they were in the bottom three pretty much from the off. Not really your point, but I've been meaning to pick up on it for a while. And no, because we haven't got any debt. Ashley might sell up but he'd have to be off his tits.

He's not "disinterested", he's just finished.

Wright(Brock); Venison, Beresford; O’Brien, Scott, Howey; Carr, Peacock, Kelly, Clark, Sheedy(Kilcline). EDIT: dang.

Milner does things that a footballer needs to do. Occasionally sets a goal up, occasionally scores one, occasionally puts a cross into the box, occasionally makes a key pass to set someone else away, occasionally beats his man. Probably doesn't do any of them as often as he should. Works his fucking bollocks off as well, not in a false way like Alan Smith by kicking people but in a genuine run-60-yards-to-stop-the-other-team-scoring kind of way. Duff doesn't ever do any of those things. I'm not in the least bit surprised that his return has coincided with this club's worst run of form since 1978. He's by no means the only reason of course (God no), but he is a very big one nonetheless. You're basically adding a man to your midfield who contributes nothing going forward or back and obviously in the process losing someone who does, be it Milner, Geremi, N'Zogbia, Emre, whoever. Geremi had been on the field for two minutes on Saturday when he robbed a defender and whipped in a cross better than Duff ever has for us.

I've stayed quiet so far in this thread but I have to take issue with that. If Duff and Owen are our best players, we will go down, absolutely no doubt whatsoever about that. A winger who hasn't scored or set a goal up all season is our best player? Christ! He scored against Stoke We're in a relegation fight. Maybe next year, and only if he keeps playing, I'll give a toss what he does against Championship sides.

Neither are good enough and i'm a huge critic of Milner's but his contribution to NUFC has far exceeded anything damien duff has even attempted and i can't see that changing in the future. I like Milner and think he'll make a good squad player, he is limited though and we can do better, but of course you're absolutely right. I find the attitude of many to Duff absolutely bizarre when I think of the treatment some of our other ex-players used to get (some deserved, some not). Robert, Parker, Dyer and Speed were four players who, on their day, could take a game by the scruff of the neck and win it for you, all contributed a hefty amount to NUFC and all were booed at St James'. Hell, credit where it's due, even Jenas had some cracking games for us in his first year or so. Duff in comparison just keeps getting away with woeful display after woeful display and hardly anyone seems to notice, still gets applauded off, still doesn't raise a mention in the paper. Does not compute. We've got 28 points this season. Do you know how many we've got with Duff playing? 2.

How any Newcastle fan can slag Milner and defend Duff in the same breath is totally beyond my comprehension I'm afraid. Milner's had more good games this month than Duff has since we paid good money for him.

What's Milner got to do with it? Right wing is more of a priority than left, that is my point. Because we've got Charles N'Zogbia.

What's Milner got to do with it?

So we're supposed to play him on the back of his friendly performances for Ireland now and ignore the fact that he's yet to put a cross in this season? Presumably you'd happily see us pay big money for David Healy in the summer, despite the fact he can't get a game for a team on their way down? I couldn't give two fucks how he does for Ireland. He is shite.

I've stayed quiet so far in this thread but I have to take issue with that. If Duff and Owen are our best players, we will go down, absolutely no doubt whatsoever about that. A winger who hasn't scored or set a goal up all season is our best player? Christ! You have a personal vendetta against Duff though so you hardly came in here to sing his praises. How is it personal? It's because he's fucking garbage.

I've stayed quiet so far in this thread but I have to take issue with that. If Duff and Owen are our best players, we will go down, absolutely no doubt whatsoever about that. A winger who hasn't scored or set a goal up all season is our best player? Christ!