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Seen a few Newcastle fans slagging off Villa's crowds. This attitude of 'our attendances are better than yours' has to change in English football if fans want any power back. It was fine when games were £2 on the gate but not now, supporters deserve to see something back from their money, some sort of accountability for poor performance. This attitude of turning up out of 'loyalty' is just giving people like Lerner and Ashley licence to take the piss.

Another new record smashed today. Longest run of defeats for 47 years, which takes it just outside my life time. Pff. We were losing 6 on the bounce before it was cool.

Vertonghen should have gone two minutes earlier as well if the referees are going to be consistent. Absolute carbon copy of Debuchy's tackle at West Brom last year.

I agree, I'm absolutely appalled by the standard, not least because it's kept you-know-who in a job. Spurs were disgusting today, Villa robbed.

Suits us to have played 3 teams who've looked fairly disinterested whilst our kids are still racing round brimming with enthusiasm.

At a quick glance, that's not backed up at all statistically.

Spurs look absolute toss.

We did but it was a classic underdog performance. We've been very similar in the last week to the fixtures that kept the mackems up at the end of last season, wins at Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford, and they should have won at the Etihad too.

It's less about attendance figures than matchday income (and beyond that other commercial income/sponsorship). We are far from 3rd or 4th in matchday income, and that surely means more than bodies through the gates? That isnt intended to excuse any lack of ambition, but just check out how much spurs take into the tills when they play a home match, and explain our advantage in having a much bigger crowd? Could easily whack the prices up if the team was any good, they've been frozen for years to keep people clinging on. Only the London clubs have the ability to go much higher but it's not a question of money anyway. Our clubs don't even match the ambition of Swansea or Southampton or fucking Stoke.

Can we sign brummie in a swap deal for one of our Back Pardew pricks?

Spudil fishing for bites further afield. Football in the North East is reflective of our position in the UK as a whole. An afterthought. Newcastle and Sunderland have the 3rd and 4th biggest stadiums in the country, easily fillable every week if we were any good, and yet we both treat mid-table like the Promised Land, gazing longingly at Everton and Spurs. They're even more of a disgrace than we are, with far less ambition than even our fans. Fuck all will to succeed in our region, we've nearly always been shit (and they always have) so we're generally content with continuing the trend.

Our incarnation of the last four years is one of biding time until we go down. Not because the owner is a cunt - he isn't, he has spent a lot of money. The problem is that the owner is two things, uninterested and utterly, utterly incompetent. What is shocking, too, is seeing the gradual wearing down of expectations of the fans. "Maybe we can nick a point at West Ham", that sort of thing. FFS. Honestly, I think I hate almost all our supporters. Passive fucking sheep. In fact, that probably counts for most football supporters full stop these days. I think you'll find it's the best league in the world, so good that 12 teams are battling to stay up and nothing else. Fucking pathetic - getting to the point when I look forward to the bubble bursting. When the money just for being in it is so big, and when the gap between those who compete for the CL and those who don't is so big, it just becomes a great mass of clubs who are happy not to get booted off the easy money roundabout of the PL. That's one reason why we have this sort of football management equivalent of eating at Yo Sushi. There's a belt going round and round with utterly fucking mediocre managers on it, the likes of Pardew, Lambert, Bruce, Harry Fucking Redknapp, these people who are basically fucking frauds. They get taken off the belt, do an OK job somewhere for a few years (i.e. not get relegated) then get sacked, get back on the belt, start going round and round again, get taken off again by some other total mug of a chairman. From one million pound a year job to another, and most of them have never even won anything. I don't care about top players and managers getting top money in this league. It isn't the likes of Rooney and Yaya Toure getting 200k a week that worries me, and it isn't the thought of people like Mourinho getting paid obscene amounts of money, it is the huge numbers of truly mediocre players on 40k a week, and managers who are basically just media figureheads without the first idea of coaching or actual management, picking up 20 or 30k a week on long contracts, getting sacked, then getting their contracts paid up. So many utterly shit "professionals" just on a never ending easy ride. So many

That's the thing. Raging vs four wins on the bounce. That's why I am thinking whether I'd like us to win or draw versus lose by 5 tomorrow in terms of the bigger picture. Wanting the team I've supported for 40 years, and which is in trouble, to lose heavily. Fucking hell. I'm all about the bigger picture that's why I am begging for an end to Ashley's control over our club. If the start to this season has shown me anything its that deep down I know that until Ashley sells up I can never get back to enjoying my football club as I have done for the past 20 years. We could beat the top six on the bounce but it means little to me because there is no heart in the club anymore. In the short term I was certain that 2 more defeats would have seen the back of Pardew and that's what makes this run all the more galling. I feel your pain pedro. Is anyone labouring under the delusion that even if he stayed on this run and continued to climb the table, if a European spot was within reach, that he/they wouldn't either nobble the squad in January or just basically start throwing games? The chances of this cunt qualifying for Europe and putting his inability to manage a club in midweek under the spotlight again is zero.

Not sure about that like, he was in the top five chance creators in the league last season iirc.

Classic case of if he had those attributes, he wouldn't have come here for £2m. I think he's our best player tbh.

Aye, amusing seeing people saying "finally he's having a go!" Err he's not like.

Too many people without the courage in their own convictions. Same with Obertan. People think you're fucking mental now if you say he's still shit. If you're gonna be wrong about something, be wrong. But don't change your mind after every fixture.

FFS

Got PSV on with them and they're arguably missing even easier chances.

Got you lot on my slip -1 ffs. Ridiculous chances missed.

Only 18 teams, they're in the bottom 3. Aye, but only two get relegated, or am I wrong? Ah yeah, think it might be a play-off thing for the third place.

Only 18 teams, they're in the bottom 3.

The test for his "change in mentality" will be when we get beat. We looked world beaters for a period until Wigan pasted us and he immediately went back to normal. This leopard won't be changing his spots anytime soon. He's living off the enthusiasm of a load of talented kids, which is fine, but you can't do that forever.

Lallana, Lovren and Lambert must have a right huff on. Pochettino too for that matter.