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This tallies up with the new interview. Regardless of whether you think the club are in the wrong, what's very clear is that Jonas is unhappy with how he's been treated.

No, it was in January after he'd come back from treatment.

Pardew didn't tell him to leave, i.e. go home though. He told him to find another club. Whether you think that was right or wrong, Jonas has been very clear on the issue.

I think you may have been right: The Looney Toon retweeted Samuel ‏@ecanalla 7m Jonás Gutiérrez on @TyCSports : "I got my left testicle removed in Argentina. When I came back to England, [Pardew] told me to leave." Wow. Wow. Horrible news on Jonas. Get well soon, man. Livestrong! Also, horrible treatment of the club if it's really like he's said. Good players, bad players - doesn't matter - everyone needs every bit of support during times like these. Edit: Just read on .com that it was meant that he was allowed to leave for recovery with his contract honoured. If that's the case than it's alright. Interesting that they've chosen to add that caveat when that's certainly not the way Jonas is telling it.

After Keegan, I'm fairly sure his contract will say he is basically Ashley's slave and he wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

You start it and we'll all join in.

From January: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/norwichs-jonas-gutierrez-newcastle-exit-3029641

His magnificent hair.

We'll be cut adrift within a month if this lame duck manager remains in place. If your idea is support is sitting quietly and letting that happen then get on with it. I think it's the opposite of support personally. We won 3-0 against Cardiff btw but don't let that get in the way of such nonsense.

Hope none of our members go off now to join his forum. http://z3.invisionfree.com/NUFCforum/index.php?showforum=1 Still laughing at that Anita post.

That was fun. Right I'm off.

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He's rubbish and like most players at the club now, not good enough. Which isn't themanagers fault. In a few years time the numpties will still be blaming the next manager though . Don't say you weren't told. Do you still think Souness is a top boss? Yes, and would you agree that Freddy Shepherd is an obese wanker? I would.

He's rubbish and like most players at the club now, not good enough. Which isn't themanagers fault. In a few years time the numpties will still be blaming the next manager though . Don't say you weren't told. Do you still think Souness is a top boss? Do you still think Mike is better than Fred It's on.

He's rubbish and like most players at the club now, not good enough. Which isn't themanagers fault. In a few years time the numpties will still be blaming the next manager though . Don't say you weren't told. :lol: In pieces here.

Absolutely lost it at this, fucking hell.

I agree.

Could understand if he'd won the fucking title. Fifth ffs. Absolute mental cases. Spurs bin their manager off for finishing fifth on an annual basis. Fucking Spurs.

I can't believe that either. The thing I can never believe about this, is that while everyone would admit Pardew had a good season that season, however he did it, it's getting to be a fair few years ago now. He can have been doing okay back then, but still be doing terribly now, which he is and some people aren't grasping that. Lots of managers have done an okay or good job for a while and then got it badly wrong later. To anyone still saying "But he came 5th" I would say that his tactics worked because he had Demba Ba to play his archaic long balls to and an in form younger Collocini at the back to help keep it tight. The team is worse now, but still more than capable to 10th-8th with decent football if Pardew had any adaptability at all. That's the bare minimum of how I expect him to be doing considering we don't do anything in cups. I don't expect fifth, but I don't expect bottom of the league either. I don't expect to get beat 3-0 or 4-0 every other week. I don't expect us to concede twice as many goals as we score. I don't expect us to continue to play long ball when we sub on a small fast striker instead of a big man. I don't expect us to keep taking the same corner that took 102 games to generate a goal. I also don't expect our defenders to be so lackluster they switch off and pass the opposition through on goal in the first minute, like what happened at the weekend. Those are all the things I don't expect. I do expect a cohesive unit, I do expect an organisation and focus that makes the players look interested in the game they're playing. I expect intensity. I expect being able to hit the guy in your own shirt from more than five yards away, not only in your own half, but in the final third as well. I expect skillful players to get a chance to do what they do well and the right players to be played in the right positions. I expect wingers on the wing instead of fast strikers and central midfielders. That's pretty much what I do and don't expect out of Pardew. In every single one of these areas Pardew is failing my expectations. So who's to blame that the players are worse than when we finished 5th ? They're not. Alan Pardew said so.

He says he's got the best squad he's ever had.

Exactly!

It is in a way because they try to provide "balance", so if they get 100 anti-Pardew and 2 lunatics, they'll put the latter on with 2 of the former. Just ends up making the show sound farcical, although Anderson does that too.

Welcome Gino and great first post! Always feels a bit weird learning there's lurkers, easy to forget this is a public forum.

Fucking heartbreaking.

Ian Dennis is a complete wanker.