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His passing accuracy when he joined was scarily high for a while. When we beat Arsenal at the Emirates, it was 100% iirc. So glad Pardew has tried to make him "our Essien".

Love watching children play cards from a hundred yards away.

Why would you want him to? Honestly if I'd known that, I wouldn't have walked out.

This is the key. He is simply not a manager who learns from his mistakes. Someone with a huge amount of time on their hands should make a montage of every time we've launched a free kick towards Taylor or Williamson at the back post. It's absolutely embarrassing. Where might someone get the footage to do such a thing? You'd have to download every single game I imagine. Somehow that sounds less boring than watching us take an offensive set piece.

Arsenal were panicking and instead of trying to force opportunities, we attempted to kick it high towards Adam Campbell. I nearly burst a blood vessel in the last ten minutes, our play was shameful.

This is the key. He is simply not a manager who learns from his mistakes. Someone with a huge amount of time on their hands should make a montage of every time we've launched a free kick towards Taylor or Williamson at the back post. It's absolutely embarrassing.

Love just watching him. So do most of our players apparently.

One of the most damning indictments of Pardew's management is that he's simply not been good enough to use Anita because he's not big enough, not strong enough, can't jump high enough. Pardew needs to fuck off to the Conference (at best) and manage some big bruisers. He'll love it.

I particularly like how Arsenal have scored from two set pieces in a week after Happy Face was using stats to tell us we shouldn't be complaining because theirs are "woeful"

I thought Tiote was much worse than him, again.

Did he not walk round with the players? I would have stayed if I'd know that.

He knew as well as I did that he'd never have to pay it.

Brings on three knee high substitutes and still has the keeper launching it into the fucking box from our half. Utterly detest the cowardly prick.

Fucking disgusting lack of invention in the last ten minutes. Long ball after long ball, I'm fucking livid. Pathetic.

"Hit the heights" Fucking fifth.

Wish he was staying as a squad player but wouldn't have him in my XI and it's understandable that he isn't signing a new deal. Pardew's seriously going to struggle to put together and coach a new solid back four without Chris Hughton doing it for him.

Jonas has taken about half a dozen corners and they've almost always been good ones, remarkably. Coloccini's equaliser against Wigan not long after the Chelsea game was from a Jonas corner too, albeit after Carroll had helped it on. Reminds me of when N'Zogbia scored a free kick against Fulham on Owen's debut then never took another one for about three years.

Wolves, 2010. Ba from Jonas. Cabaye's corner.

Yep.

it is true beni wants to stay in england, it showed after he left lfc that he waited a year and a half until chelsea came up, but us trying for him would be a waste of time, he can wait another 18 months for a top job in england but he certainly wont wait on nufc even if the job becomes available tomorrow, spurs perhaps one day? Would be crazy for us to not even try though, surely questions have to be asked by MA and co, he can only say no and he would have the tools to make us a solid team. I'd change the avatar, I keep thinking James is posting and therefore ignoring it entirely.

Which argument is this? The only sane argument that anyone could possibly have for keeping Pardew. The only sane argument that anybody could possibly have for keeping Pardew if they had anything to say about the matter (i.e. if they were Mike Ashley) would be that he has overachieved last season, underachieved this, that there are mitigating circumstances to a certain extent and that he perhaps should be given more time to see what he can do next season. The stability argument hasn't come from any of the posters on here, it's come from that very same one person who indeed has the final say on the matter. It has came from posters on here though. If you're not a believer in stability (I am) then I see little reason why we shouldn't get rid now and try some fresh ideas, if it doesn't work then it doesn't matter, we can just give them the chop and bring in another man. Try not to respond through the eyes of Mike Ashley, or at least what you perceive his thoughts to be, it's incredibly irritating and ultimately irrelevant to the debate of whether or not Pardew is good enough for our squad. Which posters have argued Pardew should remain our manager for the sake of stability out of interest? I honestly cannot be arsed to look back and check usernames and any educated guesses would be unfair, but considering the debate was all about stability a week or so ago I know a few were spouting it. Again though if stability isn't part of the argument for keeping him in charge then that's another pretty massive reason why he shouldn't be. You've just made an argument up and claimed it was being used by posters on here, and you can't be arsed to prove it, because you know you can't. Nobody has claimed they want him to remain our manager, let alone for stability reasons. You're not serious? EDIT: Hans has already pointed out that you're talking shit.

As far as I can see, you're the only one who keeps harping on about long balls because it's got a stat attached to it. Personally I'm more concerned about how fucking dire we are every week. I agree with you btw, that the amount of long balls has decreased of late, at least in the first half when we still maintain a vague interest in scoring a goal. The football is still negative and ineffective though and that'll be the case no matter how many stats you can find.

I think you're spot on there. Ferguson had his time at Aberdeen, Moyes at Preston, Wenger managed over in Japan for a while as I remember. Even O'Neill (as shit as he was in his later years, he was decent when he was younger) did his time at Wycombe and Leicester. Aye, there's nowt to say that a manager will be any good at the very top level, even if he does spend years learning the job before he accepts a big offer, that takes something special. But he's much more likely to succeed if he HAS been learning the job. Mourinho wasn't onyour list either...learned from the best I'd be interested to listen to someone more knowledgable than me about the penchant for appointing past players with no manegerial experience straight into a management role with tens of millions of pounds at stake. Is it a recent development? First I can think of is Dalglish at Liverpool. I always thought he was con artist, whether inheriting the greatest team in English football to win trophys there or inheriting all the money he wanted to do it at Blackburn. It is interesting but Pardew doesn't fit into this category, he's just one in a long line of managers who brought a club out of the second tier then turned out to be a bit shite and vanished again. He's Aidy Boothroyd, he's Phil Brown, Iain Dowie, Owen Coyle. He was already on his way to his natural level when Ashley dredged him off the bottom of the river. He was a compete nobody as a player and definitely can't be counted alongside the other examples you give. You have a point though. The most ridiculous thing is that whenever a manager is plucked from the lower leagues it's always some big name like Ince or Di Canio, whilst someone you've never heard of is actually doing a better job somewhere down there.

midds.

Didnt you suggest Anita as an alternative? I thought HF's point was just that we dont have a striker on the bench of a better quality than Shola, hence pointing to squad depth. Shola seems to come on in response to us playing it long, not the other way round. If that is the case then bringing on Anita would be odd. As for your point about how wonderful the arguments have been on here, surely the end of the season, with all the stats, facts and figures to hand is a good time to reflect on whatever has been said before? I find it incredibly farfetched to think that Pardew sees us resorting to long ball and hoys Shola on to utilise it, and I'm amazed you don't. Players panicking and reverting to a style that isn't historically suited to them individually when a goal up or drawing just seems like absolute rubbish to me. It's far more feasible that the instruction comes from the bench. They panic so much that even when the ball is dead and we have a free kick in our own half, they load the box and the keeper aims for Mike Williamson, despite the manager (surely) yelling at them from the touchline to play a short pass and keep the ball moving.