Wullie

Partizan. You can stick a pin in it as the turning point.

Fuck me.

That's very bizarre, I have literally just finished watching that (brilliant film), as in I paused it on "the end", picked the computer up and opened this thread.

They have one of the best home records in the league. I couldn't give two f***s, football isn't played on paper and their players are, by and large, a tatty collection of mackem rejects. We've got one of the worst home records too so I assume we're just to write off Pompey, Boro and Fulham as well? Surely your arguement only works if I said they had better players on paper? Its a difficult place to go and play, they gear the play to suit themselves, get physical. You can write off what you want it seems a fair few of this forum already have. Fulham have a shocking away record having scored 6 of their 9 goals in 2 games. You have to look at each game and be relative. Alot of games away from home teams will try and pass Stokes tactics are very unique in the sense that they are the only team that really just attempts to bully teams. I think its sensible to say it would be a tight game. Plus do you not go into home games with assumed confidence ignoring form? Fulham have won, what, two of their last three or four away from home? Given our home form, that looks as unlikely a victory as Stoke was. Another one to chalk onto the "doesn't matter, if you really expected to get anything here and you're whinging that we haven't, God, how stupid" pile, like nearly every other game we've played.

When our time comes around again, like the Keegan years, you will find out how fantastic a club it is to be invovled in and you will realise why you stuck around during dark days like these. I just cant imagine what the place would be like if we actually won something. Fuck me. The celebration of Carroll's goal got me thinking about what it would be like to celebrate a late cup final winner or something along those lines. I remember the chaos of Rob Lee at Wembley and that was only an equaliser. It would be absolute ecstatic pandemonium. Fucking hell, I hope I see it.

They have one of the best home records in the league. I couldn't give two fucks, football isn't played on paper and their players are, by and large, a tatty collection of mackem rejects. We've got one of the worst home records too so I assume we're just to write off Pompey, Boro and Fulham as well?

Hughes has been a mainstay in a very solid Fulham defence this season. Said at the time that selling Zico was a rick.

Defo. Looks a bit mental though. Apparently.

Aye, we spotted that. I thought Bassong was injured in the first half mind, he seemed to limp away from one challenge and hold his groin. Yeah, I was shitting it about that but he seemed to recover fine. Where abouts were you sat? We were just inside the touchline, row 24, absolutely cracking view - helped by it being sunny. Very good atmosphere created by both sets of fans as well, it was absolutely wild when we scored, think I ended up two rows further forward Row 24? What seat?

Nearly had the shirt off his back, it was a stonewaller.

If the players have the same attitude as some of the supporters it's no the wonder we're in the shit. "Oh it's Man Utd, I didn't expect us to win, it's fine" "Oh it's Everton, I didn't expect us to win, it's fine" "Oh it's Stoke, I didn't expect us to win, it's fine" We are where we are because we've not won too many of these games that we had a fair chance of winning (i.e. most games). If winning at Stoke City is "unrealistic" then frankly we deserve to go down anyway.

A result would be a positive, no? We didn't get one though, not the one we needed anyway.

I'm absolutely loving Villa's total capitulation since O'Neill's arse fell out and he bottled the UEFA Cup, not least because I reckon they'll be going into the last day with fuck all to play for.

On the subject of being up for it, when the game was getting quite fraught with bad tackles being made on our lot, the ref handing out ludicrous bookings because the Stoke fans asked for it and then them hoying bottles at our players, Owen was absolutely nowhere. Duff, Butt and in particular Beye all took their turn to remonstrate with the officials and get in some faces while Owen stood twenty yards back with his hands on his hips. I know it's often a largely ceremonial position but Owen really should not be captain. Shearer should know this considering what he was like as a skipper - whinging, moaning and never letting the officials or the opposition get away with anything he didn't like, which is exactly what you want from your captain.

Aye, what I dont understand is that he didnt ask Xisco to show him in games for the reserves....but Xisco did anyway, and he's still not in the squad. Something fishy is obviously going on with him. Got to be if 2 managers and Hughton haven't bothered with him. Xisco was absolutely dreadful last Monday night tbf.

I can't get over how poor Nolan is. He offers absolutely sod all. At least Taylor does have certain attributes.

Changed the thread title before I cringed myself into an early grave.

We don't need positives at this stage, we need results.

On the subject of the celebrations, I can't remember the last time I celebrated a goal as much either. It's always more celebration away from home but this one was proper pandemonium in the away end for a good few minutes. Class.

Beye's certainly still fighting, he was well up for a ruck today. Having seen his figure close up when he got his kit off at the end, I can confidently say he'd have won too. Legend.

When he came to warm up towards the end, there was a few bits of applause, me and Dave joined in enthusiastically and eventually so did everyone else. Cue the bloke behind us: "anyone knaa who the fuck it is?"

That lofted Hollywood pass Butt tries every single time he gets the ball is one of the most frustrating things it's possible to see on a football pitch.

Jonas made all the difference today by doing something which appeared completely alien to the rest of the team - passing and moving. Him, Beye and Taylor were combining well in the later stages and that was what got us back into it.

It's a pity we haven't still got Milner, a lot of his crosses were those lofted dropping ones which are usually neither use nor ornament. Duff does it too, he's crossed for both of Carroll's goals but the power and accuracy he gets is superb and turns a shit cross into a useful one. Wouldn't like to be on the end of a headbutt from him, he'd knock you through a wall.

I started to change my mind on Carroll after Wigan away, when he came on, completely changed the game and should have gotten us a point rather than ludicrously been booked for diving. He did the same today, just bullied two very big centre halves. There can't be many better centre forwards in the air than him in the Premiership - he's got the size and he knows how to use it. Unlike Shola, who can win headers but tends to head them nowhere, Carroll gets great direction, as shown by his two goals. Could very well be one of our most crucial players in the next six games.