Dokko

I'm not forcing anything, why can't I ask such a question without being leaped on for it? Seems like a lot of people agreeing with me and some open to a debate instead of simple attacks. I don't mind people having a negative view on Taylor, but sometimes its well over board, and those reasons i listed in the OP for me would make Taylor a better defender, a one much better than Senderos who's enjoyed the very best. You just seem to go over board though with regards to your opinion on him and the viewpoint of others. Are you on his payroll or something? (Joke before you have a pop) What have i said that others haven't? I've never banged on about him being worldclass or a saviour, just a young academy lad trying to learn his trade under serious poor conditions. People think because i'm TT i have an agenda, i don't, he's not ever my favourite player, but i bet you assume. I've stuck up for many players, for some reason Taylor brings the horrible negative and nasty rage to the surface in some people, i cannot understand why, its not like he's our worst palyer, and since the KK turnaround has been getting back to some decent form, like every fuker else. This is exactly how you wanted this thread to turn out tbh. So you could do your 'Taylor gets so much unfair stick' routine. Again. Oh no! Dare start a thread on a NUFC player under fire! Whatever next, showing him some support? Fuk me. He hasn't been under fire lately though, again you're manufacturing things. I think he's shit, get over it. Anyway, let people decide for themselves, got a problem PM is there, tell me all about hard done your opinion is by me. Grow up man, seriously. You are the one crying because i dare support a player i have time for and a player you hate for whatever reason. I never asked for you to come into this thread, you are entitled to your opinion, so am I.

Proves you had the agenda as I said. I wish I could have got a bet on the rolly eyes being used btw. A lot of people seem to agree with this thread, plenty of posts, lots of votes for Taylor. I see nothing wrong. Don't like it, fuk off. Bet you won't though. Is this you not repressing opinions btw? This is me asking people a question, see you still haven't left.

I'm not forcing anything, why can't I ask such a question without being leaped on for it? Seems like a lot of people agreeing with me and some open to a debate instead of simple attacks. I don't mind people having a negative view on Taylor, but sometimes its well over board, and those reasons i listed in the OP for me would make Taylor a better defender, a one much better than Senderos who's enjoyed the very best. You just seem to go over board though with regards to your opinion on him and the viewpoint of others. Are you on his payroll or something? (Joke before you have a pop) What have i said that others haven't? I've never banged on about him being worldclass or a saviour, just a young academy lad trying to learn his trade under serious poor conditions. People think because i'm TT i have an agenda, i don't, he's not ever my favourite player, but i bet you assume. I've stuck up for many players, for some reason Taylor brings the horrible negative and nasty rage to the surface in some people, i cannot understand why, its not like he's our worst palyer, and since the KK turnaround has been getting back to some decent form, like every fuker else. This is exactly how you wanted this thread to turn out tbh. So you could do your 'Taylor gets so much unfair stick' routine. Again. Oh no! Dare start a thread on a NUFC player under fire! Whatever next, showing him some support? Fuk me. He hasn't been under fire lately though, again you're manufacturing things. I think he's shit, get over it. Anyway, let people decide for themselves, got a problem PM is there, tell me all about hard done your opinion is by me.

Proves you had the agenda as I said. I wish I could have got a bet on the rolly eyes being used btw. A lot of people seem to agree with this thread, plenty of posts, lots of votes for Taylor. I see nothing wrong. Don't like it, fuk off. Bet you won't though.

I'm not forcing anything, why can't I ask such a question without being leaped on for it? Seems like a lot of people agreeing with me and some open to a debate instead of simple attacks. I don't mind people having a negative view on Taylor, but sometimes its well over board, and those reasons i listed in the OP for me would make Taylor a better defender, a one much better than Senderos who's enjoyed the very best. You just seem to go over board though with regards to your opinion on him and the viewpoint of others. Are you on his payroll or something? (Joke before you have a pop) What have i said that others haven't? I've never banged on about him being worldclass or a saviour, just a young academy lad trying to learn his trade under serious poor conditions. People think because i'm TT i have an agenda, i don't, he's not ever my favourite player, but i bet you assume. I've stuck up for many players, for some reason Taylor brings the horrible negative and nasty rage to the surface in some people, i cannot understand why, its not like he's our worst palyer, and since the KK turnaround has been getting back to some decent form, like every fuker else. This is exactly how you wanted this thread to turn out tbh. So you could do your 'Taylor gets so much unfair stick' routine. Again. Oh no! Dare start a thread on a NUFC player under fire! Whatever next, showing him some support? Fuk me.

I'm not forcing anything, why can't I ask such a question without being leaped on for it? Seems like a lot of people agreeing with me and some open to a debate instead of simple attacks. I don't mind people having a negative view on Taylor, but sometimes its well over board, and those reasons i listed in the OP for me would make Taylor a better defender, a one much better than Senderos who's enjoyed the very best. You just seem to go over board though with regards to your opinion on him and the viewpoint of others. Are you on his payroll or something? (Joke before you have a pop) What have i said that others haven't? I've never banged on about him being worldclass or a saviour, just a young academy lad trying to learn his trade under serious poor conditions. People think because i'm TT i have an agenda, i don't, he's not ever my favourite player, but i bet you assume. I've stuck up for many players, for some reason Taylor brings the horrible rage to the surface in some people, i cannot understand why. Well for a start, some people don't seem to be able to express their own opinion on the lad, without you having a go at them. Like you have done to me several times in the past. I don't rate the lad, what else can I say? I don't unfortunately see any redeeming qualities he has to think he can cut it at the top level. Like who? Who have i repressed? It's actually the other way round.

I had two people in mind who'd have a problem with this, me doing what lots of posters do, a compare, and guess who that was?

I'm not forcing anything, why can't I ask such a question without being leaped on for it? Seems like a lot of people agreeing with me and some open to a debate instead of simple attacks. I don't mind people having a negative view on Taylor, but sometimes its well over board, and those reasons i listed in the OP for me would make Taylor a better defender, a one much better than Senderos who's enjoyed the very best. You just seem to go over board though with regards to your opinion on him and the viewpoint of others. Are you on his payroll or something? (Joke before you have a pop) What have i said that others haven't? I've never banged on about him being worldclass or a saviour, just a young academy lad trying to learn his trade under serious poor conditions. People think because i'm TT i have an agenda, i don't, he's not ever my favourite player, but i bet you assume. I've stuck up for many players, for some reason Taylor brings the horrible negative and nasty rage to the surface in some people, i cannot understand why, its not like he's our worst palyer, and since the KK turnaround has been getting back to some decent form, like every fuker else.

I'm not forcing anything, why can't I ask such a question without being leaped on for it? Seems like a lot of people agreeing with me and some open to a debate instead of simple attacks. I don't mind people having a negative view on Taylor, but sometimes its well over board, and those reasons i listed in the OP for me would make Taylor a better defender, a one much better than Senderos who's enjoyed the very best.

Utter utter bollocks. I thought the same about the OP but I was more polite. All about opinions though isn't it? Why is he better? He's had the much better education, stability, support and worldclass manager, yet he's much more of a liability than Taylor. What is he better at? I think they're both shit but, since you insist Taylor isn't even big or strong, unlike Senderos. I don't understand why you're constantly moaning about people having a pop at Taylor though, only to start threads like this and chuck the toys out the pram when people don't agree with you. 1st time i've done it and for a valid reason and it seems to be you throwing the toys out. Funny how he's stronger yet looks soft as shite. No redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Utter utter bollocks. I thought the same about the OP but I was more polite. All about opinions though isn't it? Why is he better? He's had the much better education, stability, support and worldclass manager, yet he's much more of a liability than Taylor. What is he better at?

Utter utter bollocks.

There's only one way to find out! I'm asking this as a lot of people seem to have a problem with Taylor, some are founded, others are just plain twattish; and i remember it was put to me once Taylor wouldn't get the chance of playing in a winning team if he came through one of the big fours academy. (i know Senderos didn't) Well imo (which in no uncertain doubt will be verbally abused for) Taylor would be playing for Arsenal right now, the games Senderos plays (25-30 already this season), and i'd think he'd be doing a much better job at it too. On the other side, if i had Senderos at NUFC, there is no way he'd start over Taylor, even if Taylor was a bought player. Just a thought, is Taylor really as bad as him? PS: They are basically the same age, and Senderos has played around the same amount of league games (in a winning top 4 team) nevermind his CL games and NT caps.

All i want for him is to stay out of trouble on and off the pitch, and play like he used too. He's doing that now, and i hope he continues, if so, he has my backing. Call it fickle if you want, i just want what's best for my club, and the new Barton is canny, and i'd like to see more of it. Anymore of the old, and he can fuk off and be sued by the club for being a cunt.

Right now the bolds would get in our team. And our team i bet scares a few these days.

It's not something either of us can prove, but it could be the same kind of difference between a boring Sam Allardyce team to KK playing his way with SA players. Those players play a certain way due to the manager, we've seen the difference a change in style can make.

Newcastle are currently playing better football than Liverpool. Newcastle are a Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard away from being in the top 6. Take those 2 away from Liverpool and they're nothing but a mid-table team. Newcastle are currently playing better football than Liverpool. Newcastle are a Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard away from being in the top 6. Take those 2 away from Liverpool and they're nothing but a mid-table team. I think that's a ridiculous thing to say tbf. Aye, gan canny. Only Beye, Owen and Martins would come close to getting in Liverpool's team. Perhaps Enrique given time. That's not the point I'm making. I said that they'd be a mid-table team without those 2. I didn't say that all of our players were better than theirs. Without Gerrard and Torres this season, Everton, Aston Villa, Blackburn and Portsmouth would all probably be above them. I don't see what is so ridiculous about that at all. ----------------------Reina Finnan---Carragher---Agger---Arbeloa Pennant---Alonso---Mascherano---Babel --------------Crouch---Kuyt Subs: Carson (recalled) Skrtel Riise Lucas Benayoun Voronin Better than any of those teams you suggest imo. So having the best striker in the league, and the so-called best midfielder, that hasn't helped their cause one bit? Are you actually saying that they'd still be in fourth without those? :D Of course they've helped, but that is the reason they play, they are good palyers, but its not the be all and end all of the Liverpool squad. If they played better football under an attacking manager without those two i think they'd grab 4th. They'd probably not have the success in the CL though.

Newcastle are currently playing better football than Liverpool. Newcastle are a Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard away from being in the top 6. Take those 2 away from Liverpool and they're nothing but a mid-table team. Newcastle are currently playing better football than Liverpool. Newcastle are a Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard away from being in the top 6. Take those 2 away from Liverpool and they're nothing but a mid-table team. I think that's a ridiculous thing to say tbf. Aye, gan canny. Only Beye, Owen and Martins would come close to getting in Liverpool's team. Perhaps Enrique given time. That's not the point I'm making. I said that they'd be a mid-table team without those 2. I didn't say that all of our players were better than theirs. Without Gerrard and Torres this season, Everton, Aston Villa, Blackburn and Portsmouth would all probably be above them. I don't see what is so ridiculous about that at all. ----------------------Reina Finnan---Carragher---Agger---Arbeloa Pennant---Alonso---Mascherano---Babel --------------Crouch---Kuyt Subs: Carson (recalled) Skrtel Riise Lucas Benayoun Voronin Better than any of those teams you suggest imo.

Newcastle are currently playing better football than Liverpool. Newcastle are a Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard away from being in the top 6. Take those 2 away from Liverpool and they're nothing but a mid-table team. I think that's a ridiculous thing to say tbf.

TBF its influenced by the things you do, like having such majors disasters as Hillsbrough, then buying forged tickets or going to a CL final without a ticket, stealing tickets off kids and others charging the gates. That kind of stuff makes me and possibly a lot of other people think you are a bunch of stupid cocks. No dbout your retort is to blame everyone else and not accept any responsibility for your actions like a true Liverpool fan.

I absolutely loathe what they represent. A pack of medieval grunts riding their f.... luck every time they get the opportunity. It's not Arsenal that loses, it's the whole f.... philosophy of football and sports in general. This is a business on a football pitch, sure it's "good" business but f... it if you lose your soul on the way. What are you talking about you bitter bitter person??? Have you even heard yourself?? what a slava!!! Any hatred of Liverpool comes down to 1 thing, pure and utter jealousy, and as for anyone slagging of the Liverpool fans, when was the last time Newcastle fans created such an atmosphere, and supported there time for 90 minutes like the Liverpool fans did? My remarks there are definitely bitter, but that's pretty obvious with all the "f...." flying around. Your comment about jealousy is way off target actually. My "bitterness" was (or rather still is) directed solely to those 11 players on the field and the pack of people that put those same players on the field, a.k.a. the staff. What the Liverpool players have promoted in this last couple of years is the kind of football that's just too hard for me to digest, i can't think of any other term here. It's not pretty, as to opposed Arsenal philosophy which i find admirable and inspiring, and above all else "pretty" to watch to a neutral spectator. I'm not a fan of Arsenal, Liverpool, or Newcastle for that matter, I just find that both Wenger and Keegan football philosophy is "the" right philosophy when approaching football, and that's what i meant when i said Liverpool has no soul. The football they play is stripped of it. Defensive, unattractive, utterly physical football is something I (or any neutral spectator i imagine) don't want to look when i watch the "European greats". Let's put it this way, for me in last nights game, the "bad guys" won. Regarding fans, they come in all shapes and sizes, everyone should treat their club and themselves as the best, whilst respecting the other team and it's fans in the process. Apart from Torres, now that lad is worth watching.

Is this a direct replacement for Zoggy/Duff?

Anything out of this game is a bonus, we are shite down there.

Curry.

Zoggy for Walcott.