James

Think I'm a couple minutes behind, but did anyone else see Jonas not track back because he was tying up his ponytail?

And buy himself a prawn sarnie aye. He's next to Franco Baldini. Probably spend all game moaning about how England cost him millions in unsold kits this summer.

Ashley's here. Hopefully this will tempt him to open his wallet.

Why don't they make Man Utd watch the 5-0 or 4-3?

Looking at who is on the bench, you'd be surprised if he was!

Check your PMs. Blatantly a classic Dave PM telling off

Only £6 per month on ipod.

Really it winds you up? It is just something that started out in Manchester for people to differentiate between that cities clubs & is used quite a bit nationally now. It is really no big shakes I would rather our club is refered to by it geographic part than the United bit. http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6615/melissasears762271233.jpg

1-1 Rooney Taylor

I respect Fergie to be honest.

Pleased to see Tav, Tim, Haris and Nile get a look in on the bench. Given that Xisco is on the bench, one of them will probably get some minutes.

4 clean sheets and a goal for my captain out of 8 players used isn't a bad start I suppose!

Got an offer of SS1&2 plus ESPN free for a month for only £10. Still didn't take it because in the terms and conditions it didn't specify anything about the above prices. It said the offer "starts at £10...." I watch on my ipod touch for £6 per month. OK if you live alone.

There you go, easy to find easy to follow. All is in Marseille's hands, and because of the compensation they'd get from us, Ben Arfa coming here isn't going to make any difference if we can't afford to pay. IV. MAINTENANCE OF CONTRACTUAL STABILITY BETWEEN PROFESSIONALS AND CLUBS Article 13 Respect of contract A contract between a professional and a club may only be terminated upon expiry of the term of the contract or by mutual agreement. Article 14 Terminating a contract with just cause A contract may be terminated by either party without consequences of any kind (either payment of compensation or imposition of sporting sanctions) where there is just cause. Article 15 Terminating a contract with sporting just cause An established professional who has, in the course of the season, appeared in fewer than ten per cent of the offi cial matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the ground of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of a sporting just cause shall be established on a case by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last official match of the season of the club with which he is registered. Article 16 Restriction on terminating a contract during the season A contract cannot be unilaterally terminated during the course of a season. Article 17 Consequences of terminating a contract without just cause The following provisions apply if a contract is terminated without just cause: 1. In all cases, the party in breach shall pay compensation. Subject to the provisions of article 20 and Annexe 4 in relation to training compensation, and unless otherwise provided for in the contract, compensation for the breach shall be calculated with due consideration for the law of the country concerned, the specificity of sport, and any other objective criteria. These criteria shall include, in particular, the remuneration and other benefits due to the player under the existing contract and/or the new contract, the time remaining on the existing contract up to a maximum of five years, the fees and expenses paid or incurred by the former club (amortised over the term of the contract) and whether the contractual breach falls within a protected period. 2. Entitlement to compensation cannot be assigned to a third party. If a professional is required to pay compensation, the professional and his new club shall be jointly and severally liable for its payment. The amount may be stipulated in the contract or agreed between the parties. 3. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall also be imposed on any player found to be in breach of contract during the protected period. This sanction shall be a four-month restriction on playing in offi cial matches. In the case of aggravating circumstances, the restriction shall last six months.In all cases, these sporting sanctions shall take effect from the start of the following season at the new club. Unilateral breach without just cause or sporting just cause after the protected period shall not result in sporting sanctions. Disciplinary measures may, however, be imposed outside the protected period for failure to give noticeof termination within 15 days of the last official match of the season (including national cups) of the club with which the player is registered. The protected period starts again when, while renewing the contract, the duration of the previous contract is extended. 4. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall be imposed on any club found to be in breach of contract or found to be inducing a breach of contract during the protected period. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any club signing a professional who has terminated his contract without just cause has induced that professional to commit a breach. The club shall be banned from registering any new players, either nationally or internationally, for two registration periods. 5. Any person subject to the FIFA Statutes and regulations (club officials, players’ agents, players, etc.) who acts in a manner designed to induce a breach of contract between a professional and a club in order to facilitate the transfer of the player shall be sanctioned.

It is Article 17 which is the largest and most detailed part of the FIFA player registration rulebook and was the main compromise to the European courts ruling that players could break their contracts.

He has to do it within 15 days of the end of the season. The extra million or so would take it to £6-7m based on Ben Arfa's contract estimate, which is what we were unwilling to pay in the first place. Remember that Marseille had to stump up 11m Euros to keep Lyon quiet when Ben Arfa did the same to them!

Eh, like Chelsea? Don't think anything will happen with us, we haven't talked to him, and the player came because he wanted to come, not because the club had invited him to a meeting. It could easily happen to us, it's the likes of Chelsea who will get away with it. Yeah, I know that's what I was on about. But as I've said, I don't think it'll happen to us at all as long as we aren't talking with him. It is not who he is or isn't talking to, it is who he eventually signs for.

I don't think we'd be accused, Ben Arfa reps have already made it clear it was the players decision. If he refuses to return he may be banned, but more likely Marseille will concede defeat and try to negotiate the best deal they can. Wishful thinking on my part perhaps but a simiar impasse was resolved when he left Lyon to sign for Marseille in the first place. Marseille don't have to concede defeat as they'd get what is left on Ben Arfa's contract in full, i.e. an estimated £4-5m

Eh, like Chelsea? Don't think anything will happen with us, we haven't talked to him, and the player came because he wanted to come, not because the club had invited him to a meeting. OK any club he joined the same season after breaching his contract would get the embargo, it is in the FIFA rulebook

This is getting dangerous. If he doesn't go back to Marseille, they can claim breach of contract which by the FIFA rulebook would cost based on his estimated contract £4-5m (hence given current transfer bids Marseille would actually benefit), and Ben Arfa would probably get the maximum 6 months ban. Furthermore, we'd be the party accused of inducing the breach, therefore as well as being jointly liable for the compensation, we'd be banned from signing anyone until January 2012. Marseille have to agree to let him go, and the best way for him to get that to happen is to go back to Marseille, follow the terms of his contract to the letter, and make life as difficult as possible for everyone else so Deschamps becomes desperate to get rid.

If I remember right Acuna's mum was dying of cancer, and Sir Bobby told him to go home.

Because the skill of the photoshop is getting so much praise, I may as well own up. It was me what done it.

That is from this: Regulation for the Status and Transfers for Players Part IV Articles 13-17 http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/status_transfer_en_25.pdf

If Ben Arfa wants to buy out his contract, Marseille will have to agree to this one, which is unlikely as they probably reckon they can get a higher transfer fee. Ben Arfa would have to pay more than the salary remaining on his current contract for it to be multilateral. Otherwise it is unilateral: Ben Arfa and the club he signs for will together have to pay Marseille the value of his remaining Marseille contract. Additionally, because Ben Arfa did not hand in his notice within 15 days of the end of the french 2009/2010 season: Ben Arfa would be banned from playing for 4-6 months The club he signs for will be banned from registering any new players until July 2011

You can't blame us for this, and you can't blame Marseille. The only person to blame is Ben Arfa.