Bad Mongo

Are you using Fahrenheit down in Geordieland?

Thinking of FM, it could be a deal where he pays £4M up front, then the rest, up to £10M in instalments, based on certain conditions.

Edgar and Huntington had their first senior game together at CB today, didn't they? Surely you wouldn't have picked a totally new and inexperienced CB pairing when you've got a more experienced, but slightly less capable player to choose. That's gambling, and would do wonders to Ramage's probably not-so-great confidence. Then what if Hunty or Edgar was injured, and a confidence-shot Ramage had to play? I think Roeder made a sensible decision, even if he picked a poor player on an exceptionally poor day.

In an ideal world could happen but not in the real one Nah, wouldn't even happen on FM! You horrible, horrible person. Now I have to play FM for the sole purpose of trying to sell Ramage.

Not during Christmas. What else is there to boxing day? Maybe the last two weeks of January or something, but that wouldn't work with the European cups, would it? So no. The players could use some rest sometime during the season, though.

As a Norwegian I wonder why Scott Carson is playing regularly for Charlton when he's only on loan from Liverpool. He can't be that much better than Thomas Myhre, since he has the worst stats in the Premiership this season (I remember he had a very good game against us).

Excuse me, I've seen the word TROL being applied to Carr many times now, but I don't understand what it means. Since it's got only one L, it doesn't seem to mean "troll", which would be an apt description of the fat monster, and since it's always capitalised, I would guess it's an acronym. However, the only TROL acronym I've found with Google is Teachers Resources On Line, and that doesn't make much sense, since Carr isn't much of a resource. So, what does TROL mean?

Lower expectations and all that.

Ah, there's no better reason for panicking than wild speculation. I don't understand why some people seem to believe there is any reason to take this thread seriously.

I'd snap up Chinedu Ogbuke before it's too late.

Oh, I think I agree that Carr is a fine player when he's on form. He just tends to be completely off form almost all the time, which makes him pretty useless. He's as much of a has-been as Tore Andre Flo. We should see if we could offload him to Leeds.

CENTURION: What's this, then? 'Romanes Eunt Domus'? 'People called Romanes they go the house'? BRIAN: It-- it says, 'Romans, go home'. CENTURION: No, it doesn't. What's Latin for 'Roman'? Come on! BRIAN: Aah! CENTURION: Come on! BRIAN: 'R-- Romanus'? CENTURION: Goes like...? BRIAN: 'Annus'? CENTURION: Vocative plural of 'annus' is...? BRIAN: Eh. 'Anni'? CENTURION: 'Romani'. 'Eunt'? What is 'eunt'? BRIAN: 'Go'. Let-- CENTURION: Conjugate the verb 'to go'. BRIAN: Uh. 'Ire'. Uh, 'eo'. 'Is'. 'It'. 'Imus'. 'Itis'. 'Eunt'. CENTURION: So 'eunt' is...? And so on. (Copypasta from http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/brian-08.htm) I was also going to point out that you can link directly to any earlier revision of a Wikipedia page, but then I noticed that Beckham's page is sabotaged several times every day. Look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Beckham&action=history

We need to strengthen both defence and attack. Before Martins started scoring in every game, we were among the least scoring teams in the Premiership. We can't rely on Sibierski (and Dyer) to score all our goals whenever Martins gets injured or has a dip in form.

No, not at all. I just have a feeling that not winning would be slightly more embarrassing for Chelsea. That's where my opinion comes from. One of them is going to win, and that's a sad fact. One of them won't win, and I'm sure their tears can be collected and used in a nice tequila drink.

So that's what they use him for these days? No wonder he's always injured.

I agree with Taylor27. The injuries are too diverse to be caused purely by bad training. Wasn't it almost all hamstring injuries last year? Still, some teams always seem to be without injuries. Bolton. I wonder how they do it?

Excuse me, but doesn't that mean that you're wrong?

Me too, another month. But what's with the 19th and Scott Parker? He's born October 13, 1980, according to Wikipedia.

Not exactly setting the highest standards as role models. I'm hearing that Levy and Comolli went ballistic when they found out yesterday. Not exactly setting standards as role models by playing for Sunderland, so what's your point?

Certainly, but that's because of bullying, not because of what you have the legal right to do. In fact, "The European court of justice [...] ruled [November 9, 2004] that the Premier League and Football League cannot demand payment from media and pools companies over publication of fixture lists and match information." That's from <A href="http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1347339,00.html">The Guardian</A>, btw. You shouldn't mistake the effect of scary and official-looking cease and desist letters for copyright law. I'm not disputing the fact that we can't post fixture lists, I dispute the legality. There's no evidence that posting 6 fixtures next to each other is illegal, since it's never been tried in a court of law. It also probably never will be tried, since <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_DataCo">DataCo</A> can scare internet providers into closing sites down.

No, it's not protected knowledge. It's public knowledge, since it's widely published. The problem with the fixture copyrights is that it's the result of a lawsuit in 1959, which hasn't been challenged later, and now there's an enormous amount of money in it -- some of which is also returned to the clubs, and not only rich Premiership clubs. <A href="http://www.mg.co.za/articledirect.aspx?articleid=259822">Here</A> is an article about it. The fact that so many poorer clubs get money from the fixtures would probably make a new trial more difficult, and the fact that there's so much money in it would make it more drawn-out and expensive. That doesn't make any copyright claim to the facts valid, it just shows that the legal system protects the rich. Facts can't be copyrighted. "The types of work eligible for protection are literary, dramatic, artistic or musical works, the typographical arrangement of a published edition, a sound recording, a film or a broadcast." (From <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_Kingdom">Wikipedia</A>.) A fixture list would have to be considered as a typographical arrangement or a literary work. As a typographical arrangement, it could be re-arranged, and as a literary work, you have protected rights when it comes to quotations: "Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement and provided that the work has been made available to the public." You do have some protected rights when it comes to publishing from the fixture lists, but you certainly can't legally publish them verbatim. You can, however, comment on our next games without keeping the names of our opponents and the fixture dates a secret.

The fixture dates aren't copyrighted. You can't copyright facts, not even if they are wrong. What is copyrighted is the specific list, presented in one (or several) specific way(s). If you make a fixture list with a new form of presentation, the FA can't possibly have a valid copyright claim against you. Of course, validity has never been much of an issue when it comes to the copyrights of the super rich, so they can (and probably will) have their lawyers rape you until you just do as they say.

I've never seen him, so I voted yes. No reason to take these things too seriously.

Excellent choice of music. Even if the clips are just repeating five mistakes, Boumsong really did make many shocking mistakes while at Newcastle. I've seen other compilations. He did have some good games, though, many of them against Henry. I don't think he's such a bad player, it just didn't work out for him in the premiership.

What he said.