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I think what means "we make it hard for ourselves" is to let Williamson got exposed during counter attack. The Spurs goal just cannot get off from my head.

And Pardew reckons Cabaye as his MOTM. I don't think Cabaye would lose confidence for receiving this praise?

Saylor is decent, Williamson is s***. That a big difference. btw, LLB, you really sounds like we are a top4 team and playing s*** football that didn't utilize our players and as a result we are not in contention for the 4th spot. Am I getting it wrong? are you nuts? how did you get that impression. my point is, having saylor in the team is not going to change the style of our gameplay. Your main point is that we aren't playing our best and our result should be better by playing the style of football that Pardew didn't deploy. So can I assume that you believe we have a top4 squad and should be challenging for the Champions League?

Saylor is decent, Williamson is shit. That a big difference. btw, LLB, you really sounds like we are a top4 team and playing shit football that didn't utilize our players and as a result we are not in contention for the 4th spot. Am I getting it wrong?

The last thing u can criticize pardew us his record against the weaker teams. He is the best since Bobby.

If that is the performance at the start of the season, would u be that mad? i rlly think the expectation has risen to a ridiculous level.

except cabaye is playing centre. It isnt a 442 but a 433.

We do not have infinite stamina. That said, our game plan is to score a few during the first half to finish them off. We wasted a few sitters and that leads to the pressure for 2nd half. i dont like it personally.

Dilemma. 4-4-2 is not going to work but can't see us dropping Cisse for 4-5-1 either.

This.

Actually, when the opponents have 4 players upfront for pressing, most of the time it's either hoofing or a decent dribbling from the side backs. im talking about keeping the ball so the opposition can't pressurise us in the first place. they can have as many men pressing, if they dont have the ball they can't do anything. If that's as easy as in FIFA.

.....ok I am not going to argue about Williamson. What you think is he "still can be coached". What I think is he is the worst defender ever playing for us in terms of keeping the ball on feet. He has given himself up. I have given him up as well. Anyway, you can say this is Pardew's fault. I won't argue about it anymore. Krul is another issue. What I observe is he only trust Colo and if Colo's marked by anyone, he would just hoof it. I have never seen Krul making any pass to Simpson and Williamson. My point is only 'we can't give up on Williamson'. How defeatist is that? That's not a 6th placed teams philosophy. If we're giving up on our starting CB for the rest of the season we deserve to lose 6th/7th place. It's up to Pardew to change this, that's the crux of it. We'll see what happens against WBA. That is definitely a game where he can't hoof it as we'll only have 1 up front no doubt. I hate being pessimistic but I can't see us lining up with a positive, keep ball attitude. It'll be more grinding out a result. That's a bad sign, I'm not a pessimistic Newcastle fan, but I can't say anything else going on the past couple of months. Then my question would be, are our squad good enough for a top 6 place? Well my answer would be we have a decent enough midfield and forward for that but our defense are just a class above relegation teams due to Colo and Krul. That is a weakness we should solve at Jan while we didn't. Pardew has been working all his time to solve this, and no matter how much people dislike, his work and with "tons of lucks" we managed to defend pretty well this season. Still, the defenders are shit. You cannot change this by tactics. They are really shit. I actually agree with your point that we shouldn't do nth and just let it be. Pardew actually did sth before - play Cabaye as a deep-lying playmaker to help him out which people criticize a lot.

.....ok I am not going to argue about Williamson. What you think is he "still can be coached". What I think is he is the worst defender ever playing for us in terms of keeping the ball on feet. He has given himself up. I have given him up as well. Anyway, you can say this is Pardew's fault. I won't argue about it anymore. Krul is another issue. What I observe is he only trust Colo and if Colo's marked by anyone, he would just hoof it. I have never seen Krul making any pass to Simpson and Williamson.

I really think he looked knackered when got subbed.

He must be telling Williamson and krul to do it. They've done it so much surely he'd have told them to f***ing stop it if he was against it. You don't see him getting angry about it, or saying we need to start passing along the floor more. Essentially it's his fault. Are you serious? Of course I'm fuckign serious. What in that sentence suggested I wasn't being? Norwich very nearly scored direct from a Krul kick that was cleared from their half. This was after a couple of other failed attempts at long balls. Is the only thing that'll make you realise how much of a bad tactic it is if the opposition score from it? A better striker and it'd have been 1-1. we don;t have the players for big long high balls up top, man. We shoudln;t be doing it. Simple as that. Pardew could very easily tell them to stop doing it. It's not like they were under pressure most of the time they were doing it. "He must be telling Williamson and krul to do it. They've done it so much surely he'd have told them to f***ing stop it if he was against it. You don't see him getting angry about it, or saying we need to start passing along the floor more. Essentially it's his fault." Williamson. Our only choice. Our only decent header at the back. Whatever he did we cannot drop him. To say this is Pardew's fault is way way OTT. It doesn't make sense. I'm not saying that fact Williamson has been canny poor is Pardew's fault. I'm saying the amount of times we're just f***ing hoofing it up top is. It's very easy as a manager if your players are just lumping it forward. Here, look... I'll do it... "Lads, we have to stop lumping it up top, we just lose possession each time. If it's a necessity then fair enough, but a lot of the time it's not. We need to keep possession if we're going to win games" Seems reasonable to me. And very much valid. All I'm sayign if he doesn't point it out, or tell the players to stop doing it, which don't think he is, despite me not being at training, then he's allowing it. Which is bad management. I'm not anti Pardew fwiw. I think he has done well but has definitely lost his way a little recently. But we're losing possession so much at the minute and putting our already poor back line under more pressure than we need to. It's up to him to change this, and he isn't. But that's not applicable to today's match. It is not like "oh yeah I can short pass to Cabaye/anyone or just hoof it". All your short options were blocked, you have someone that is running at you, you'd either be an Arfa or just hoof it for safety. And then your choice is? For players like Santon, an Italy International, he can do the former. What about Simpson then? Williamson is another issue. He is simply hopeless. He has given up himself already. Quite obvious i would say.

Actually, when the opponents have 4 players upfront for pressing, most of the time it's either hoofing or a decent dribbling from the side backs. If your opponents are pressing forward away from home they are leaving themselves open to being countered if you have the team set up to exploit it. Exactly why I said we fucking need another side back in order to stop hoofing the ball. That is very risky pressing IF opponent has a decent side backs to exploit it. That's the reason why Ferguson gave so much opportunities to Rafael. Not a great defender but an excellent attacking full back to ensure that the team can "potentially exploit" it. This won't happen because the opponents won't dare to press that aggressive. While what we have is Simpson. The problem is so bad that I'd rather Jonas playing left back and Santon right back to solve it.

All the teams in the top seven apart from us. I can ensure you Chelsea and Liverpool didn't. Just watch Liverpool dominate possession when they come to St James Park later on this season. My point is "90 mins", especially after scoring the 1st goal. I spent a few hours on Liv forum and they were complaining EXACTLY THE SAME thing about Dalglish. Decent 1st, rubbish 2nd, sit back against shit teams. EXACTLY THE SAME.

He must be telling Williamson and krul to do it. They've done it so much surely he'd have told them to f***ing stop it if he was against it. You don't see him getting angry about it, or saying we need to start passing along the floor more. Essentially it's his fault. Are you serious? Of course I'm fuckign serious. What in that sentence suggested I wasn't being? Norwich very nearly scored direct from a Krul kick that was cleared from their half. This was after a couple of other failed attempts at long balls. Is the only thing that'll make you realise how much of a bad tactic it is if the opposition score from it? A better striker and it'd have been 1-1. we don;t have the players for big long high balls up top, man. We shoudln;t be doing it. Simple as that. Pardew could very easily tell them to stop doing it. It's not like they were under pressure most of the time they were doing it. "He must be telling Williamson and krul to do it. They've done it so much surely he'd have told them to f***ing stop it if he was against it. You don't see him getting angry about it, or saying we need to start passing along the floor more. Essentially it's his fault." Williamson. Our only choice. Our only decent header at the back. Whatever he did we cannot drop him. To say this is Pardew's fault is way way OTT. It doesn't make sense.

All the teams in the top seven apart from us. I can ensure you Chelsea and Liverpool didn't.

Actually, when the opponents have 4 players upfront for pressing, most of the time it's either hoofing or a decent dribbling from the side backs.

He must be telling Williamson and krul to do it. They've done it so much surely he'd have told them to f***ing stop it if he was against it. You don't see him getting angry about it, or saying we need to start passing along the floor more. Essentially it's his fault. Are you serious?

Like I said hard. Whatever name I give you there will be a problem with it. Dragan Stojkovic. That's a good shout, my only concerns are his language and his understanding towards the physical aspects of EPL. But then would people here accept him now? Probably no. Given our current status people would want "established and proven" managers instead of betting on those "unknowns". Which means we could end up managers like Hodgson.

I suddenly got a question (not defending Pardew): what teams in EPL can consistently dominate the game throughout the 90 mins? Even against the teams like QPR and WBA?

He is a decent player against opponents with no decent attacking midfielders.

That is for TT, sorry both. Name a manager.