The College Dropout

Tbh I don't think Pards is the guy to trust but let's not act like Moyes had a superb managerial record.

I don't think that's the way things work, with any football club. The minute a manager is struggling, all past achievements go out the window. Ask Arsene. Had he left after the last trophy win, his replacement wouldn't have had 7 years to try and win another trophy. That's a token of the board's good sense, not the fans', many of whom would happily have seen him ditched at the first sign of decline Don't agree.

It's an awful point and I'm sick of reading it. There's ONE example of that working. Fergie?

I don't think that's the way things work, with any football club. The minute a manager is struggling, all past achievements go out the window. Ask Arsene. Had he left after the last trophy win, his replacement wouldn't have had 7 years to try and win another trophy.

Does anyone seriously believe that Pardew forfeited the cup? What would be the point? Play a weakened team at OT is forfeiting the game, in any competition. Whatever said they put out will win. Same thing with away at Brighton. Knowing you lost their last season with a pretty strong side, you go their with a weaker side the next is forfeiting.

Did you know at the time that Moyes was as good as he has proved to be or are you talking with the benefit of hindsight? I don't think many, if any, picked Moyes out to be a potential star during the lean years. This is my point.

Aye he was no Paul Scholes but his passing was under-rated. Didn't grab lots of assists but his play was quick and snappy, slick. One twos, pass and move, scamper into space. He wasn't even great at beating players but he had good awareness of running into space. Same thing with Bellamy. Bellamy hasn't been properly fast in 3-4 years but he carries the ball into space well and makes intelligent runs into space and to create space. Oh the days when teams had to worry about stopping our best players. **sigh**

Dyer was generally good for us. Perhaps a bit over-rated in the media at the time but fact remains, he was an integral part of the second best Newcastle team in my lifetime. he ran teams ragged as a CM, which is very rare these days. We'd overwhelm teams at times. Robert - Solano with the passing and delivery. Bellam-Dyer stretching teams, deadly on the counter & Shearer there to finish it all off. Jenas off the bench for some energy. Soft as owt team but played some great stuff at times. Was pretty good under Souness & Roeder too. Remember Sporting being scared to death of him. then he got injured and we lost.

A clean-sheet is all I want.

Pardew's really missed a trick by always forfeiting the cups. Win a cup, any cup and he'lll buy himself years with the fans and probably the board too.

Wait? Is this a complaint? If he knew he could only work with players hand picked by himself, then he shouldn't have taken the job tbh. The one thing we are definitely getting right at the inute is the calibre of players we're recruiting. We could do with getting a few more in, and in a timely manner, but we have some damn good players. Pardew should bow out if he doesn't know what to do with them, and is instead pining for his Jason Puncheons, Danny Grahams and Adam Llalanas. No it's not a complaint. I do think we need a proper DoF though. Atm it's just Ashley & Lambias signing the players they can afford that are highly recommended by Carr it seems. I don't think they really consider the needs of the team when we sign players which has led to an unbalanced squad. A DoF woudl bring some continuity even if we change managers as the same type of players would be signed.

I think statements like this are utterly pointless. It's not. We'd all love Moyes here now but look at his earlier time at Everton 2001-02: 15th 2002-03: 7th 2003-04: 17th 2004-05: 4th (Qualification for UEFA Champions League) 2005-06: 11th We'd have sacked him after finishing 7th, then 17th, guaranteed. And maybe after finishing 11th after finishing 4th. Sticking with managers is great. As a club and supporters, we are impatient. This is down to years of under-performing or coming close but never winning trophies. We've never allowed a manager to take a step-backwards to take 2 forward. 1 step back and they're gone and everyone is glad they've gone. Bobby went 11th, 11th, 4th, 3rd & 5th, had we let him go at the end of the 5th finishing season 90% of the people on here would've happily let him go. It's in the nature of our club to act with haste unfortunately. This is not helped by the fact our best manager's in 25 years left after only 1 "poor" season. We need a mentality change if we are to become successful and stick with a manager. Saying all of that, I don't think Pardew is the guy to trust. I'd take some yoyo (in the PL) with a youngish fresh manager or a inexperienced coach turned-manager or at least a manager with an admirable philosophy. I think Pardew's a bit too far along in his managerial career to make the necessary changes. Moyes has had 14 years straight with 2 clubs to build his philosophy. Pardew's had a similar amount of time as a manager but always chopped and changed, preventing him to build a proper identity bigger than "don't get sacked".

Alan Pardew has almost 0 say in our signings. If he wants a player and he's relatively cheap and young we'll go for him. That's Obertan and possibly Demba. the rest? HBA, Cabaye, Anita, Cisse, Marveaux et al. NO CHOICE.

He's been great but RVP would be offended.

LOAN. LOAN. LOAN.

I'm pretty certain Demba got along extremely well with our French connection, of which make up 3/4's of our top players so I doubt that was an indirect. I have no problems and tbh, Demba's a pretty honest lad. If Cabaye or HBA had a 7.5m release clause they'd be off too.

Where can i find a link that mentions the fact we've never won from behind with Pardew?

Agree, especially Tiote who quite frankly doesn't even protect his CB's properly anymore. If the plan is to play Cabaye as a #10 with Hatem and Remy either side of him then i'd look at getting a better partner for Anita. But that's another topic for another time. He did a decent job at Everton tbf to Tiote.

Nasri - full backs are supposed to follow the centre half not stand 5 yards behind the line - Santon didn't move Jelavic - dragged out to right back as there was no right back there If you're being serious that is! So he's dragged out to right back that means he couldn't do anything? He had to stop Jelavic getting in the box and he failed. Yeah Perch was AWOL but you're best CB shouldn't be getting fleeced like that.

Except Davide?? Now, I rate Santon, and overall he's had a decent season (not as good as some would say), but he's been as bad as, if not worse than Simpson lately. He's been poor. Sorry, I meant that Santon has been the worst out of everyone. Followed by Colo.

Such weak yellow cards. Ref has had a shocker.

Yep.

Never liked the man. Never. As a player. For his Suarez comments.

He's made mistake after mistake in recent weeks, very poor. If Williamson got beat in the air by Hugo bloody rodallega he'd get lambasted. Or turned inside out by Jelavic. Or plays Nasri on side.. Defensively, he's been as bad as anyone in the back line. Except Davide.

Aye, he had good relationship with Best in particular.