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2 or 3 runs and a couple of passes (all with his left anarl as if he'd got a right foot he'd have played Cisse in at 1-0 to make it 2) aren't enough. He's good neat and tidy player who can beat a couple of players with a mazy dribble but he only plays for 10 to 15 minutes a game and goes missing for the other 75.

Taylor rakes Sissokos achilles just bedore the handball and i agree with Pardew that this put him off balance a bit but not that it was accidental, blatant pen.

:anguish: It wasn't a foul throw as such, jonas was told to take further back more than once but took it way further forward than where it was meant to be so the ref gave them the throw. Was that the foul throw? I didnt even see it properly there wasn't a replay.

How Come? I've got Sky HD and i get ITV4 in HD, if you can get 1 channel in HD surely they all are? Dunno, we've only got the very basic HD channels (BBC1 etc). Do you pay the Ayrton for Sky+ HD or are you just on Freeview?

Cos it's not on until after the Emmerdale 1 hour special of course. It's on in 5 mins or so. It's just ridiculous. Eastenders is on in here like, i get the telly once that finishes. Man up ffs. Put your foot down Not arsed about the build up and i bought the telly for her 40th birthday present anyway so it's hers. I feel your fear, i know the truth behind this sentence really The Sky Box is mine though!!!!!

Cos it's not on until after the Emmerdale 1 hour special of course. It's on in 5 mins or so. It's just ridiculous. Eastenders is on in here like, i get the telly once that finishes. Man up ffs. Put your foot down Not arsed about the build up and i bought the telly for her 40th birthday present anyway so it's hers.

Cos it's not on until after the Emmerdale 1 hour special of course. It's on in 5 mins or so. It's just ridiculous. Eastenders is on in here like, i get the telly once that finishes.

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Cos it's not on until after the Emmerdale 1 hour special of course.

How Come? I've got Sky HD and i get ITV4 in HD, if you can get 1 channel in HD surely they all are?

Sky News sports correspondent just said that journalists who raise unwelcome questions could be banned from SAFC in future. All getting a bit scarily right wing down there. NUFC have been known to ban journalists left right and centre loads of times over the years and still do.

can you expand on that? I already have earlier in the thread. Football clubs represent people and places. They inevitably take on the political identity of those places. Just because the game is a global money making machine does not change that. Barca-Real isn't the biggest game in world football because they're two very good teams. This is utter nonsense - NUFC is in what is generally accepted as a Labour voting area, but many of the fans share a love of the club whilst having totally different views about politics - and politics should NOT enter sport, OR be linked to it. Hitler tried that in the 30s but the England Team(and Jesse Owens in the Olympics)rammed that down his throat....similarly, the Soviets and Chinese have both tried to use sport to boost Communism and ironically, the Chinese have only started to show at the top of Olympic medal tables since they moved away from Maoism and to what is basically a Capitalist economy. Ask the likes of Olga Korbut and various Iron Curtain gymnasts what they thought of sport being used to foster a political agenda... As for Barca and Real, the only way they represent a political viewpoint is because the Catalans want autonomy from Spain and they identify Barca's successes with that aim, just as Real fans use Madrid as an emblem of Spanish would-be supremacy. There is NO similar situation in the UK unless you use the former rivalry between Celtic and Rangers and that is based on religion rather than politics - another thing which should be kept separate from sport. If you are trying to identify NUFC and most other Northern sides with the left wing of politics, it is hardly worth it if you subscribe to that view because apart from the 2 Manchester clubs, one of whom has many southerners in its fan-base, the northern clubs are not as successful whereas clubs in London(viewed by many Northerners as a den of Toryism)like Spurs and Arsenal have been more successful...... Politics has NO place in football whatsoever - either to boost the Right OR the Left and every effort should be made to keep the 2 separate. I agree with Felipao's views about the whole thing and about Di Canio... As I said before, I am far more concerned about his possible impact on the Mackems - and hence, on our chances of relegation - than any madcap political stance/demonstration he might make. If he replicates his successes at Swindon, any Socialists in the Sunderland fan-base won't give 2 stuffs about his views.... As Felipao said, we should be far more concerned about appointing a Lge 1 manager with a dodgy managerial record behind him........ You've just massively oversimplified the rivalry between Real and Barca. Well done. Your argument is that politics and sport should remain separate however they are not. No amount of hand wringing will change that. They're linked and forever will be. I'm sorry if that upsets you. I've also never once tried to prescribe a political leaning to NUFC. You've simply assumed I have. Yes they are man. We have 50K crowds made up of people from all walks of life and all political persuasions. PDC's politics are irrelavent and like the above poster said we should be more concerned about any positive impact he has in terms of motivation despite his weak managerial cv.

Number of black managers in the top flight = zero. Chris Hughton says hello PMSL

?????? I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views. Glenn didn't have religious views he had moronic views. Didn't he say that disabilities were punishment for actions in a past life? I still don't get what you're going on about. I've got zero interest in politics and don't get why people are getting uptight about someone who has rather than focusing on the football which is the most important thing. I'm mostly annoyed by your use of the word fenian. Bizarre. Are you not aware of its meaning?! It's a derogatory word for catholic/Irish people. FFS, why is everyone so fucking precious?

he is yes, the players aren't. So these shit players are just going to be able to relax now and become great? Right-o No, they'll still be shit but all the focus will be on PDC and not them. It'll be his fault not there's.

Any idea who they'll get as replacement? Heard he was advising them on who to get in. Martin O Neil is available.

?????? I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views. Glenn didn't have religious views he had moronic views. Didn't he say that disabilities were punishment for actions in a past life? I still don't get what you're going on about. I've got zero interest in politics and don't get why people are getting uptight about someone who has rather than focusing on the football which is the most important thing. I'm mostly annoyed by your use of the word fenian. Bizarre.

he is yes, the players aren't.

Eh? If anything the opposite is true. Everyone is talking about Di canio and no one is talking about how shit the team has been. perfect way way to take the pressure off them by making it all about him.

Exactly.

?????? I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views. Glenn didn't have religious views he had moronic views. Didn't he say that disabilities were punishment for actions in a past life? I still don't get what you're going on about. I've got zero interest in politics and don't get why people are getting uptight about someone who has rather than focusing on the football which is the most important thing.

The one thing all of the shite like that above by a miners gadgy and david Milliband has done is too completely relieve the pressure on the Sunlun players. Masterstroke of mourinho proportions unfortunately.

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I personally find this amazing.. You really dont care about openly fascist views being given a platform by a high profile manager within the PL? You really dont care that an openly racist viewpoint will potentially now be given some credence and time? Have we sunk so far, become so de-politacized as a society that a "blind eye" can be turned to these vile, pernicious and abhorent views? I know its sport, and for many the two shouldnt mix. I disagree, I remember the same arguements around sport and the openly racist South Africa during the apartheid years. The apeasers and apologists making the same noises... Its a sad day for sport that this man is allowed anywhere near our national game. Yes its the mackems, but some things are actually more important than football,,this is one of em. He isnt a misguided young un, one of the skin heads selling the bulldog ouside SJP from the 70s and 80s that we had to contend with. A youngster feeling marginalised by society, easy prey for the base arguements of "3 million blacks, 3 million on the dole"et al.... Hes a certified, self confessed ideological fascist and by that ideological link a racist, anti semite, anti trade unionist, anti sexual freedom... it wasnt just the heat of the moment rash fascist salute in 2005/6..This guys a committed racist. Lets laugh at the Mackems eh? I wonder if any of their Jewish, Bangaladeshi, Indian, Pakistani or other ethnic minority supporters are laughing. I wonder if any of the elderly population, who fought against fascism in the 30s and 40s are laughing? We should actually be uniting with any of their support who are rightly disgusted at this appointment by showing some solidarity with them. I see there was actually an Anti Fascist Action event on in Wearside this weekend...ironic. Take a chill pill man FFS. It doesn't matter whether he's pink, green, fascist, communist, Mormon, Taliban or Fenian, all that matters is he makes a right hash of managing them and gets them relegated. Aye it does though. No it doesn't. What he says and thinks about the world are irrelavent man. He's manager of the mackems FFS, that's the only reason you need to either hate or laugh at him. The rest doesn't matter. So you would be happy for him to be our manager? If it doesn't matter what his views are i wouldn't be too chuffed about him being our manager but that's because his only managerial experience is a short stint in League 2 and League 1 where he fell out with nearly every player who played for him. His political views are irrelavent just as i think Glenn Hoddle should never have been sacked as England manager for his religous views.

here here. Where? Over there.