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Better than Shola? I think this guy is better than Cisse almost personally. He's a very hardworking and intelligent player, and £5m for a striker that can play at this level for another 2-3 years is very good I think. If we sign him I'd be very happy. We still need a winger though to compliment Barfa on the other side and a new CB to compete/replace Saylor. Give him a year and he'll be as s*** as Shola. Right, I can say this much I rather spunk £5m on this guy than £5m on Bent.

I don't think I'm as far along as you in the process of being drained of all hope, ambition and expectation. West Ham signed Carroll, Norwich get Wolfswinkel, Southampton are apparently after Damiao, Swansea are after Bony, and we're looking at washed up s**** like Kone and Bent. Kone ain't shit man, is it just me who likes the guy?

Better than Shola? I think this guy is better than Cisse almost personally. He's a very hardworking and intelligent player, and £5m for a striker that can play at this level for another 2-3 years is very good I think. If we sign him I'd be very happy. We still need a winger though to compliment Barfa on the other side and a new CB to compete/replace Saylor.

He's been talked about as the next big thing from Bulgaria for quite a while. Been linked to some big clubs as well. Sorry for keeping up. I remember our own Haris Vuckic being the next big thing from Slovenia since Zlatko Zahovic. We saw how that panned out.

People are really liking to post obvious things lately. So you think fatigue, tactics and the early goal played a big role in the game? Very good observation. Oh and how did we fear them? Were all over them from minute one and won 3-0, we did respect them, but it's one of the best national teams of all time, why wouldn't they respect them? Perhaps I read it wrong but every little header or even winning a throw in was greeted like a win by the crowd. Spain are a great side, then benchmark at the moment, but this is Brazil, at home. Anyway, it was a very entertaining game and quite fast paced. I'm liking this Brazil side. It's nothing to do with fear since the fans were doing the same against Mexico, Japan, Italy and Uruguay. It's about pushing your team and showing support. Next time you try to ridicule a person's post, you should read it properly first. Sorry about that. Still my ridiculing part was spot on was it not?

People are really liking to post obvious things lately. So you think fatigue, tactics and the early goal played a big role in the game? Very good observation. Oh and how did we fear them? Were all over them from minute one and won 3-0, we did respect them, but it's one of the best national teams of all time, why wouldn't they respect them? Perhaps I read it wrong but every little header or even winning a throw in was greeted like a win by the crowd. Spain are a great side, then benchmark at the moment, but this is Brazil, at home. Anyway, it was a very entertaining game and quite fast paced. I'm liking this Brazil side. It's nothing to do with fear since the fans were doing the same against Mexico, Japan, Italy and Uruguay. It's about pushing your team and showing support.

?? Where did you see this? Can only find him having rumoured offers from Dortmund and Porto.

He's not a 2nd choice RB, 5th choice CB should be given to a youngster.

Fair enough, but Spain still played a game less than Brazil in this tournament as they could do a lot of changes because of the Tahiti game. To complain about being knackered when playing 60minutes less than Brazil during the tournament isn't really a good excuse especially as Oscar has over the last 18 months played Nah mate. Any athlete would rather Brazil's schedule than Spain's. I will say Brazil's home advantage is real. Not having the best side also works in your favour as the crowd really supported the team rather than added pressure. :lol: This is your problem CDropout, not only are you clueless you also base your opinions on created fact by yourself. I agree with the second sentence though, which on the other side isn't exactly science that the home team holds an advantage. The Spanish advantage was against Italy in the SF. Having 24 hours less to recover and having to play for another 1/3 was a disadvantage. Had they been a bit better they could've finished off Italy earlier. Spain is the best team in the world but in Euro's last year they didn't really deserve to go through against Portugal and this year Italy was the better team in the semi's. Spain has reached the status of 'The team to beat' so every team knows they have to play at 110% for 90minutes if they even want to have a sniff at winning.

TBF to Torres that pass he gave to Mata before the goal was great though. But he's lost so much pace and dribbling ability that he's always second to the ball. He'll score goals because he's still a footballer but he needs to adapt his game a lot if he wants to play at this level again.

Aye, you can see that the quality is still all there, but since that horrific injury his fitness has taken a nasty dive. Still ahead of Torres for me, though. Agree with that completely. Villa isn't the one he once was, but still the best number 9 you have.

Not anymore, but some people still do out of habit. Who's that tosser? Juan Manzur I think his name is. He's actually a very sore loser. Called Brazilian midfielder strong powerful midfielder without any ability and that the best midfielders in the world is Xavi and Xabi. He also thinks Arbeloa and Villa is past it and shouldn't be called up. In my opinion Villa is your best striker, Torres is past it and Soldado doesn't seem to work in this system. Azpi for me is still behind Arbeloa.

Again, if he was lenient towards Brazil, why didn't he give them another two red cards last night? He missed a lot the ref, there's nothing about being lenient, because he also gave a penalty which he could've easily not have given had he been lenient as it was more a a 60/40 challenge rather than 100% But yes I do find it weird that Dani, Oscar and I think it was Paulinho managed to end the game without a yellow card.

VI, is Spain not called La Furia Roja anymore? Brazilian journalists getting slated by a spanish journalist on tv because some newspaper have it in their front page. He's also complaining about Brazilian fans booing Spain throughout the tournament as he doesn't understand that the country that invented the Joga Bonito are booing the Joga Bonito from Spain. Such a sore loser, complaining about Brazil playing ugly football too.

Iniesta was definitely getting his ass kicked, but none were malicious. I need to rewatch the Oscar challenge, I remember talking with my father about how he should've had a yellow for a terrible tackle. But I can't remember ever seeing Oscar playing malicious, might have been but I think it was more of the perfect summary to his tournament, sluggish and mentally out of it.

Fair enough, but Spain still played a game less than Brazil in this tournament as they could do a lot of changes because of the Tahiti game. To complain about being knackered when playing 60minutes less than Brazil during the tournament isn't really a good excuse especially as Oscar has over the last 18 months played Nah mate. Any athlete would rather Brazil's schedule than Spain's. I will say Brazil's home advantage is real. Not having the best side also works in your favour as the crowd really supported the team rather than added pressure. :lol: This is your problem CDropout, not only are you clueless you also base your opinions on created fact by yourself. I agree with the second sentence though, which on the other side isn't exactly science that the home team holds an advantage.

Absolutely, I did mention it earlier as he definitely deserved a booking, he didn't exactly run up and boot the back of his leg though man . It was a yellow nonetheless. But Arbeloa could've easily and should've been off in the 15th minute and Ramos did exactly what Oscar did on Iniesta on Oscar except Oscar was through on goal. Could've easily been a red and had he given a yellow to Oscar I would've easily argued that Ramos should've then be off in the 28th minute. I thought the Ramos thing was an accidental collision TBH, still do. Accidental? He stamped on Oscar who was through on goal, I'm not suggesting it was malicious, Oscar's tackle wasn't malicious either it was clumsy, have you ever seen Oscar do malicious stuff. He has been as knackered as Xavi and was just coming late into challenges because of our aggressive high pressure. But Ramos was very aware of what he was doing, he stopped Oscar who was through on goals. It's like saying the yellow David Luiz got for bringing down Ba was fair...

We only play friendlies, and we've been shit at them. So we don't get any points as Germany does beating Ireland or Austria or as England does beating San Marino. But the way we were playing with Mano I'd argue we were rightfully the owners of the 22nd place in the ranking.

Absolutely, I did mention it earlier as he definitely deserved a booking, he didn't exactly run up and boot the back of his leg though man . It was a yellow nonetheless. But Arbeloa could've easily and should've been off in the 15th minute and Ramos did exactly what Oscar did on Iniesta on Oscar except Oscar was through on goal. Could've easily been a red and had he given a yellow to Oscar I would've easily argued that Ramos should've then be off in the 28th minute.

Right, if no one agrees with you they're clueless. That's what you told me a week or two ago, and now you've posted this shit?

Fair enough, but Spain still played a game less than Brazil in this tournament as they could do a lot of changes because of the Tahiti game. To complain about being knackered when playing 60minutes less than Brazil during the tournament isn't really a good excuse especially as Oscar has over the last 18 months played Also, I'm not forgetting anything, the game changing moment was the David Luiz goal line clearance, and to say that it could've been tighter is like saying apple tastes like apple. At the end of the day on the day last night Brazil was the much better team and had it been ''reffed'' correctly which I was arguing with Neil than Spain would've played with at least 9 men the last 10-20 minutes yesterday. I still see Spain and Germany as the big favourites for next year, but I think Brazil just moved into the 2nd tier with Argentina. Italy, France, Holland, England, Portugal and possibly Uruguay and Belgium are the quarterfinals favourite. Maybe Colombia too depending on weather and so on.

Not good enough for this level is the obvious answer.

This about the referee I don't get. You call him lenient with a lot of Brazilian fouls, but you don't even give it a mention that he completely messed it over by not sending Arbeloa or even Ramos (although for me the Ramos challenge was maybe 50/50 since Pique was on the same line even it was a clear goalscoring opportunity). You also forget to mention that the penalty given to Spain was very weak. Brazil were doing exactly as a I expected, but there's only one player who did anything to deserve a yellow and that was Oscar who first went into a challenge late on Busquets and then Iniesta. Also Spain has looked knackered ever since the Tahiti game if that was the case yesterday. Because Nigeria, Italy and now Brazil all played at an equal or better level than them, I just think Brazil was more effective than the other teams and we could easily have beaten them by 2 or 3 more goals last night. I don't think this win means anything other than that Spain and be beaten and that Brazil are to be respected. I still see Spain as favourites until next season, but Xavi must be replaced or get back to his best.

John Terry's son.

Based on that, where's Russia?