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I ''laffed'' so much at all this. f***ing hell. Well played.

Even before he won the World Cups Best Player a bit less than 2 years ago?

http://www.internacional.com.br/imagens/noticias/Forlan_vestecamisa060712.jpg Forlan - Leandro Damiao Will be a dangerous front two this season for Internacional if Damiao isnt sold. http://www.lancenet.com.br/botafogo/Chegada-Seedorf-Botafogo-Foto-AGIF_LANIMA20120706_0056_46.jpg Seedorf lands in Rio de Janeiro

Maybe because even Afonso Alves managed to score like 50goals in your league in 2 seasons.

?? Which Rivaldo is that?

Forlan on his way to Internacional in Brazil. Some really really good names over there now. Especially with them signing the best of the neighbouring countries too right now. Forlan, Fucile, Martinnuccio, Guinazu, Caceres, Seedorf just some foreigners who have all played in their national teams and are highyl respected in South America. This along with the young player coming through like Neymar, Ganso, Damiao, Lucas, Romulo, Casemiro, Oscar and the homecoming of Elano, Luis Fabiano, Jadson, Emerson Sheik, Ronaldinho. Making the Brazilian league more and more respected every day that goes by right now. Hope we can keep them in Brazil as I dont see the reason to going to Europe (outside of Spain and possibly Germany obviously).

Hes fucking hilarious.

http://imagem.zipme.com.br/static/cupom/br/br/deal/571/large/cartao-corinthians-campeao-libertadores-2012-de-19-90-por-6-90-varios-modelos-frete-gratis-571-13382264134fc3b6ede4e11.jpg (3-1 on agg. against Boca)

Mike, back to the NBA thread. Your opinion of Obertan is fucking shit.

In my time watching the Argie league JMM has been arguably the best/most consistant player. Played v. well against Santos in the Copa games this year too. Check out his golazo against Racing. Ben Arfa esque. Not seen him play, but him with Ganso and Neymar for 6 months might be wanktastic then? I dont really know, the fans love winning it, but its quite a waste, destroys the build up for Libertadores and so on for the big clubs, but for the smaller clubs I guess its very valuable to be able to play the biggest team of the state and see what standard are required.

Was very very good at the beginning of this season if not the best central midfielder for 8-10 games, but his attitude as well as injury problems are not worth the time or the money we would have to spend to get him here.

England had a decent team, Germany had a decent team, Belgium had a decent team, and Turkey had the best team they have ever had. Not saying it wasnt relatively easy, but to say we won it by default is shit. How come Argentina didnt win it? They wouldve played Denmark, or Senegal in the last 16 and then Turkey. I mean you have to take everything into context, Brazil won because they were the most entertaining and best team at the time. Playing 3-4-3 (or 3-5-2 depends on how you look at it) completely changed what teams expected of Brazil. We were excellent throughout and only had real difficulties against Turkey twice because of Rustu completely dominating in goal.

I'm not being funny but you being 3 years old at the time kind of limits your opinion on said tournament, players and indeed your own national side of that era. I was what, 14 or so at the time, and just getting into football, and although the Brazil I saw didn't reflect the legend I was taught about, I knew my football and that was one damn fine side that would grace any competition or era, with some outstanding players. Romario for me is the most natural and instinctive finisher I've ever seen and one of my all-time faves. ? I have seen videos and videos over again of those games, dont know how many times ive seen the full 90 minutes of each of Brazil and Swedens game and couple of others. Latest time I saw some videos were couple of months back, just because you didnt experience the tournament just at the time, doesnt mean you can specifically have a good knowledge of what went on. And yes, I still completely disagree with the 14 year old HTT.

Diego linked with Flamengo. Seedorf signing with Botafogo. Martin Caceres linked with Botafogo. Juan Manuel Martinez who we were once linked with on his way to Santos apparently. Brazilian league growing stronger for every season with the shitload of money involved, the signing of players from other South American countries is promising. Martinuccio, Fucile and so on are very good players.

Oleg Salenko and Letchkov wow, legends those two. Salenko scoring 4 or 5 goals or whatever it was against Cameroon was class. And Letchkovs header against Germany in the quarter finals with his halfbald head. I agree that it was an entertaining World Cup, but Brazil were really boring and tactical just like you said. Parreira-football has always been disliked in Brazil. You writing those names brings me back memories as a kid watching all those videos from the WC 94'. Was 3 years old so obviously cant remember s***, but watched videos of that World Cup throughout my childhood. Baggio missing that penalty was simply amazing or even when he was brought off after Pagliuca was sent off against Ireland, Mexico or Norway cant really remember which of them it was. He was shell shocked.

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Deschamps - Vieira Zidane vs. Xavi Busquets - Alonso That would be a class battle.

What the fuck are you on? Were the Brazil of 94' entertaining? In what way exactly? That side had Romario, and that was it. (Rai was injured and the rest were average footballers in comparison to the 02 side) In terms of quality it was the weakest one we have had thats ever won a tournament. You also name all teams and forget Sweden who were impressive in 94'. I agree about your sentiments about the Spain team, I concur that its among the greatest ever because of their efficiency, but to say its the best the world has ever seen? Come on, theres just no way its comfortably the best.

Neil basically screwed us all over by jinxing next betting season with the start of this thread. Him and wormy, will make us all bankrupt ffs.

You may be, but I'm most certainly not. They're not the same team and can't be judged as if they play the same way as they did 4 years ago. Thank you, some people just dont understand. Different coach, different back four and different front three. If anything a bit different philosophy too. If you are going to say best team ever over the span of 4 years, then sorry, Ill do the same and say the Brazilian side which won 58, 62 and 70 was a lot stronger and their achievement a lot bigger as the 66' was a given had it not been for awful refereeing and no cards being given since it was introduced at the 70' World Cup. And this was over 12 years. '66 was a given but for refereeing...? Interesting. Pele was absolutely murdered at the time against Bulgaria, was unable to play against Hungary and then against Portugal still a bit injured he was once again ''raped''. I sincerely believe that Brazil had a big chance of winning that World Cup. They had great player in Pele, Garrincha and up and coming players like Tostao and Gerson. Obviously, it wasnt a given, and it was probably Brazils weakest side during that 12 year span, but they still had a team capable of winning if they had had a fresh Pele. Either it was a given or it wasn't a given. You have to decide which option you are going for. Not a given then. Cheers.

You guys were so close. I was in Seoul with all the 'Be the reds' after the Portugal game. One of the most amazing experiences I have ever had. Seoul was insane. People would jump on cars and break windows and the drivers would walk out and celebrate with them. I wasn't too pleased with Korea that tournament, but after what came afterwards you're forgiven What a gentleman.

You may be, but I'm most certainly not. They're not the same team and can't be judged as if they play the same way as they did 4 years ago. Thank you, some people just dont understand. Different coach, different back four and different front three. If anything a bit different philosophy too. If you are going to say best team ever over the span of 4 years, then sorry, Ill do the same and say the Brazilian side which won 58, 62 and 70 was a lot stronger and their achievement a lot bigger as the 66' was a given had it not been for awful refereeing and no cards being given since it was introduced at the 70' World Cup. And this was over 12 years. '66 was a given but for refereeing...? Interesting. Pele was absolutely murdered at the time against Bulgaria, was unable to play against Hungary and then against Portugal still a bit injured he was once again ''raped''. I sincerely believe that Brazil had a big chance of winning that World Cup. They had great player in Pele, Garrincha and up and coming players like Tostao and Gerson. Obviously, it wasnt a given, and it was probably Brazils weakest side during that 12 year span, but they still had a team capable of winning if they had had a fresh Pele.

Was amazing. Will never forget that, and the fact that Korean people are 10x nicer than Japanese people.