Mr Logic

Need to get rid of that psychologist, if he's still there.

Given is not much better than a mediocre keeper but it's close to blasphemy to say that on here. His one saving grace was a 9.5 out of 10 on reflex saves which of course makes him look fantatstic, but he's lost that figure now, more like a 7 out of 10 now. His poor communication lays a lot of blame on defenders that is not necessary.

 

Sorry if the admin come across all arsey, but the two forums that this site replaced in 2004 were shut down without warning by the server because DataCo sent a threatening letter to the server without anyone talking to the respective sites first. Since then, we end up having to clarify the rules several times a year, but in the end of the day, they are just doing what they do to keep the site running for you, the user, yet they do get grief from some.

I can't quite grasp which is the more surreal. The fact that a 'calander of events' which is of interest to a large percentage of the general population, namely the fixture list, has had a copyright slammed on it, OR, the fact that someone reported a previous incarnation of this site for breach of said copyright.

Even sadder, perhaps, someone was employed to trawl message boards/forums up and down the country looking for infringements.

Can't say I blame the admin or the server owners for their behaviour. I just know I would be going out of my way to find a comparably priced server provider (overseas) who couldn't give a shit about such copyrights.

Typical forelock-tugging response masquerading as defiance.

Vive la revolucion!

As long as we run in fear of corrupt corporate decisions it only serves to strengthen their practices. The poll tax wasn't overturned by people meekly deleting other peoples posts whilst tugging their forelock. We need a revolution.

Seriously though, it is an insane copyright that should be challenged in the high courts.

Just, for one moment, assume we went down.

How many of the players would stick with us, irrespective of wether we'd want them to or not, to bring us straight back up?

Emre, Owen, Martins, Zog, Duff. They'd bring us straight back up but would they stick? I doubt it.

I'd say Martins is shit out of form and/or confidence, somethig the ANC will have done nothing to change. Difficult to see him making a difference, though one can always hope for just a smidgeon of luck from somewhere.

Aye, there was a decision made, (in someone's pocket), that that would do. I think they niavely thought the squad was made for the forseeable future. Perhaps I'm being charitable there. It was a very bad decision that the club seems to have been struggling with ever since.

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Will we ever play football as sweet as this again?!?!

Aye those were the days, got to love that Albert goal. How often do you see the centre half playing the role of striker and in acres of space.

OP has his finger right on the pulse...  and a great grasp of psychology too.

Crap

Given's kicking is pissing me off more and more. Truly awful.

 

It's not his fault that he keeps getting passed the ball with either the wrong weight, or to his wrong foot.

 

I'm sorry but that's complete bollocks. At least three were passed along the ground back to his right side and with little or no pressure, he whacked them straight out for a throw.

 

Well I'm afraid you can't count.

 

Apologies, two went out for throws, the other he tried to control and put himself in the shit.

 

Bottom line, his kicking is not good enough.

Never has been, even at his best he could be haphazard.

On the subject of nostalgia, what happened to the Scottish connection?

 

When I first started going to matches, loads of fans were wearing these black and white tartan scarves. You'd occasionally see a Scotland flag, a black and white kilt and even the occaisonal chant for Scotland.

 

I'm talking away matches here, mind.

well during the late sixties early seventies fans would go to the games wearing rangers or celtic scaves without any hassle and there was always a celtic-rangers chant at half time. probably because back then we used to get loads of players from scotland and would also usually

have a pre-season with celtic at least.

i remember supporting scotland for a couple of seasons when Revie dropped supermac from england team after a couple of games even though he scored somethink like six in two games(?)

God that brings back memories too, sometimes it used to last almost the entire period until the players came back out.

“We’d like to fetch in three or four players who can set the other players alight that we’ve already got here,” said Keegan

He already has one of them in Joey and he wants three more?  Just a few cans of lighter fuel in the changing rooms and it'll all flare up I'm sure.

It was an ugly shithole back then wasn't it, hard to tell it apart from half the industry along Scotswood Rd at the time.

 

It was never as bad as when they pulled the Leazes down the same season we were relegated, I'm sure we'd have came back up sooner if the Leazes had not been pulled down, the noise would have made a difference.  I had mates who even stopped going because of it.

I'd never stood anywhere but the Leazes before that. I'll never forget the wierd sensation of watching my first game from the Gallowgate, felt like I was in the wrong ground.. "Sing in the Leazes!"

Reading all the suggestions so far I would vote for Don't Stop Me Now, can picture it now as a matter of fact. If you could get the timing right on some of the events of that season with corresponding lyrics.

It was an ugly shithole back then wasn't it, hard to tell it apart from half the industry along Scotswood Rd at the time.

Lol, I don't remember that at all. Went to a lot of games in the mid seventies too.

60's maybe. We had color tv and TOTP in the seventies man.

(What's this doing in 'Football'?)

Slightly off-topic.. just a celebration all round.

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I was always Georgie Best, shows how hard I was.

Mind you I was playing on me own in the back garden.

Is he better than Ginola or Robert? What chance Keegan bringing in a player that excels on the LW? If he's not first choice it seems he'll never be happy, and with his family now in England, he'll be engineering for a move, (through McKay), until he gets one.

I have no problem with him going provided it's a decent price and a better replacement, and despite what Keegan says about wanting to keep him he will be looking for potential replacements as I'm quite sure every position is under review from now until May 2008

Can be summed up quite easilly by the realisation that Alex Ferguson doesn't sell players that still have something to contribute.

Butt might have been a good player for perennial promotion/relegation candidates ever moving between two divisions.

We were poor today, the loss of the African lads is huge, out of shape completely, we didn't deserve to win.

 

You have to be joking, (not re: loss of Africans), if you call that poor relative to the dross we watched under Allardyce.

Course it was poor, the fact we tried passing it on the ground doesn't make it any better than under Allardyce.

Are you telling me that the attacking football we played never excited you in the least? The result might be poor, but the football, relative to what had gone before, was a vast improvement.

We're not out of trouble, and I wonder if we're in for a repeat of when he first joined the club - a narrow escape from relegation followed by rapid progress.

 

That'll do me.

I'd rather relish that prospect myself..

Just want to add there has been some great responses in this thread with people making their feelings known. I have to say I find myself agreeing with most everything said, even when they are apparently conflicting.. because at the end of the day i guess that's how I feel about the whole thing, conflicted.

I'm the whole spectrum of emotions. Elated, excited, perturbed, worried, deflated and energised.

Bizzare.