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He wasn't very specific on what he meant to be honest. Looked to me like he was just saying that people shouldn't mistake a clubs normal income with the occasional player sale. What did you think he meant and why do you think it applys specifically to my posts?

So what is that then? I think outside of transfer fee's our incomings vs outgoings will still be better then Spurs. Anyone have the facts on this? Yes and we could have linked our spending directly to our turnover and still spent significantly more then Spurs.. Am I misunderstanding the point here or something? Was Baggio's point supposed to be: "If we want to continue to spend relatively the same amount of money we have done over the last 10 years then we need to increase our income so we'll be spending within our own turnover like Spurs".. If so yes I agree.

Ok, but what is the difference in wage bills now? After we released lots of deadwood and they took on quite a bit. Also the fact is if we'd been spending the small sums of money Spurs had been on transfer fee's (up until recently) we'd have been making very good profits, larger then that of Spurs. We spent £50 million one season and made a loss that was a small fraction of that amount.

Most of it will come from season ticket sales and the increased TV money. I've not worked it out, but that's probably at least £25m without increasing the debt. He may even put an initial extra amount in himself. However I don't for a second believe that in the long run he will continue to put his own money into the club. In the future we will have no visibility of how much he is putting into or taking out of the club though so who knows. Let me ask you this - Ashley has built his money with a "pile it high, sell it cheap" philosophy, and a permanent "closing down sale, everything must go" marketing strategy. What makes everyone so confident that with NUFC he will adopt a risky strategy of spending big on high quality players in the hope of large rewards (ie top end of the market) rather than spending just enough on decent players to maintain premiership status and occasionally getting into Europe (ie trying to be the best of the mid range market)? What makes you think he's going to be straight up and honest with us supporters when he treats his current customers as mugs? thats what he done with soccer world etc but not his strategy at lillywhites and slazenger,karrimor etc. he has shops which are aimed at a lower market and he knows how to sell in that market but you shouldn't try and make out this is his whole strategy as it isn't. Exactly, to presume he treats every business this way is ridiculous. As for how he's going to run the club, nobody knows how he's going to do it at this point in time, I think it's unrealistic to expect him to continuously pile his own money into the club so I think he'll initially invest money on players with the aim of raising the profile of the club, the raised profile will hopefully lead to a larger income for the club which will eventually lead to it being self sufficient like Spurs have. Our Turnover is greater than that of "Spurs" - always has been in modern times, most of the time FAR greater!! I know that, but Spurs make more profit than us because they have less going out. Us having a greater turnover means nothing when we're still losing money. They certainly don't have less outgoings then us this summer. So where does that leave your argument?..

I thought he was an agent, which surely should entail more then simply being a player salesman.. Parasite..

There's nothing wrong with quite a few of the comments posted, a lot of them are either misunderstandings or inuendo's. A lot of them are incredibly stupid and funny though

Why did Querdrue leave Boro and why is he now leaving Fulham one season later?

I think the point of the debate was what if we could have those five £10 million players and Ronaldinho? In other words what if signing him had no effect at all on other signings.

If nothing else I can now at least keep him in my Newcastle team in Pro Evo He's fucking awesome, Newcastle's best player for me

I'd take it in the mouth... and swallow.

Don't think people are using the American meaning here mate..

I think you have answered your own question. I think you need to stop smoking crack. ? Hands up if your think we should be giving trials to overweight & unfit players? Sam wasn't even there to see him the first day. Complete waste of time. What?.. that's the point of a trial for f*** sake! Until you give a player like this a trial you won't know for sure if they're unfit or what other problems they might have. Duscher is obviously a player Allardyce has seen in the past and been interest in. But given the problems he's had at Depor (lack of fitness ect) and the fact he's been released it was decided to give him a short trial to see if he's still the same player or not. Obviously he isn't the same player and so he was sent away. Exactly the way a trial should work.. again, what on earth are you complaning about?

Uh oh, NM's on his Luque high horse again. Expect this thread to hit 100 easily now..

Owen - surplus to requirements even though fit Martins - 4th choice striker Viduka - money grabbing lazy c*** sort of like that you mean? How about Owen - Madrids best goal scorer before we got him Martins - Loved by Inter fans Viduka - Boro's best player

Well yeah of course he won't have $4 billion all in cash (probably $3 billion or so).. As with everyone listed by the likes of Forbes his estimated fortune will include assets such as his home, private plans, boats ect. Though it doesn't include shares, of which he has at least another couple of billion dollars worth.

What the fuck are you on about now?

I'll second that!

Also that list was made just before he made $2 billion from the floatation of Sports World, which doubled his personal fortune to $4 billion. Which would put him up to number 214 (of course some other billionaires may have increased there fortunes significantly that year as well..). However, we're owned by the Lerner family trust, which manages the wealth of Randy Lerner, his sister and his mother, who all are individually worth pretty much the same amount, so you can triple that figure and ya booh sucks. That means we can fail to sign players who cost at least double the players who can fail to sign. Yay! Oh .... Actually no, tripling Randy Lerners fortune wouldn't put it close to double that of Ashley's. It would basically make them level.. so boo sucks to you fritzey..

The shares have tumbled since then & I am sure he has something like 40% to 57% stake in them. He has also paid £100 million to buy the Toon. Obv the quick £30 mill he made off those Adidas shares will more than likely cover him paying off most of NUFC debt off. The share price has no effect on his personal fortune, the £1 billion I referred to was earned by selling 43% of Sports World on floatation. Of course it effects the worth of his assets, but that's a seperate matter.

Keep on responding?... He didn't respond at all until now. Why didn't he say he wants to stay weeks ago? Because now that a move hasn't materialised he's decided its safe to ingratiate himself to the fans. What he really should be doing is asking for a new contract, without the release clause. No he couldn't, proven by the fact that nobody has put in an official £9 million bid..

Also that list was made just before he made $2 billion from the floatation of Sports World, which doubled his personal fortune to $4 billion. Which would put him up to number 214 (of course some other billionaires may have increased there fortunes significantly that year as well..).

I agree, something as small as getting married is a pretty insignificant event compared to a pre-pre season holiday.. erm training camp in Austria.. Looney

You are wrong, he was good, not great but not average either.

What the fuck are you talking about?...

Not sure if he joined Milan that same summer or the year later. He joined Milan the same month as that story (June 2002).