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Where's the video of Dyer and Bramble doing this though? Rumour is quite different to actual video footage..

Dyer isn't in the squad.

That might be alright actually... 4-3-3 with actually three strikers, so it's not 4-5-1. And we might see Luque excel there, as it's where he played for Deportivo. Aces. I really doubt it, if he plays that team he'll very likely play 442 with Sibierski on the right..

I suppose this is based on Luque actually daring to comment when asked about a possible loan move? You know this really makes me laugh. If Luque says he wants to do well here and is confident he can its bullshit and he shoulf shut his mouth. If he admits his position is becoming pointless and starts to talk about possible moves he's disloyal. If he says nothing then no doubt he's hidding because he's got no heart. People like you completely gave up on Luque's career at Newcastle within games of him signing. But when he starts to give up on what you keep saying is a pointless situation he's a bastard Basically some people just get there knickers in a twist about anything when it comes to Luque, he can score and goal and some will complain about the manor it was scored in.. My team: GK - Given RB - Taylor LB - Babayaro CB - Ramage CB - Bramble RM - Solano LM - Luque CM - Butt CM - Emre CF - Sibierski CF - Martins

That's a fair point but Rossi looks a canny player to me. To label him as one of our worst players is wide of the mark imo. This lad thinks Luque's class man. For "master" read "know-nowt". Do you ever shut up about Albert Luque?, your bloody obsessed with him

Not according to certain soopafans he doesn't, they saw everything they needed to see the moment he didn't score a hatrick in his first game. You have to understand that some people can judge a player instantly. They don't need knowledge or logic of course, they only need to hear there nearest thick drunk gobshite shouting about lazy spaniards and they just know...... Sheep the lot of them

The difference between the takeovers of West Ham, Villa, Portsmouth and (possibly about to happen) Leicester and the potential Belgravia one is that the first four are being headed by identifiable individuals with an interest either in sport in general, or football in particular. They've said they'd give a £25m budget for January if they took over so I couldn't care if it was a Mackem. If they're going to provide funds for players, I've no concern of who's in the Director's Box every other week. Shepherd always backs his managers with funds though, if you don't care whose in the box then what difference does it make? Because Freddy Shepherd either gives that money to idiots (Souness, Roeder) or just spends it himself and tells the manager he's getting a new player.. I'm pretty confident that a successful company like Belgravia would have a plan of hiring people who actually know about Football to run the Footballing side of the club. Rather then trying to run it themselves like Shepherd does.. I'm sure Shepherd doesn't purposely appoint shit managers. He wants the best for the club as well and in turn wants to make some money, which is fair enough in my eyes. How do you know that the prospective Belgravia chairman won't have equally poor judgement? Grass isn't always greener. Because the Chairman of Belgravia won't be deluded enough to actually believe that he can appoint managers, buy players and make day to day Footballing decisions in general. I'm sure that, unlike Shepherd, Belgravia will be sensible enough to stick to taking care of the financial side of things and appoint a well researched team to control the Footballing side. They won't be stupid enough or egotistical enough to think that they can interfere on the Footballing side, they'll leave that to people with actual Football knowledge. Its all well and good to want the best for the club, but until Freddy Sheperd gets his head out of his arse and realises that he just isn't qualified to run a Football club he'll never be good for us.

The difference between the takeovers of West Ham, Villa, Portsmouth and (possibly about to happen) Leicester and the potential Belgravia one is that the first four are being headed by identifiable individuals with an interest either in sport in general, or football in particular. They've said they'd give a £25m budget for January if they took over so I couldn't care if it was a Mackem. If they're going to provide funds for players, I've no concern of who's in the Director's Box every other week. Shepherd always backs his managers with funds though, if you don't care whose in the box then what difference does it make? Because Freddy Shepherd either gives that money to idiots (Souness, Roeder) or just spends it himself and tells the manager he's getting a new player.. I'm pretty confident that a successful company like Belgravia would have a plan of hiring people who actually know about Football to run the Footballing side of the club. Rather then trying to run it themselves like Shepherd does..

They aren't a hedge fund, your thinking of Polygon, an earlier company interested in Newcastle. Also what's wrong with a profit motive?, there's no way of making a profit from a club like Newcastle United other then producing a successful Football team.

Oh Christ, another one. Of all the words in the English language you choose the word "class" to describe Luque. Either you've got a very limited vocabulary or no eyes. Or perhaps he's just not an ignorant bandwagon jumping soopafan?

Since when does he have a proposed move to Newcastle to think twice over?..

The problem is the general ignorance and impatience of a massive section of our fans (some fans wanted Luque gone after his first game FFS!, simply because he wasn't the instant hero they thought he would be). Together with the incredibly amatuer nature of the people who run our club. As well as Luque's lack of understanding/lack of desire to do what a large section of our fans seem to think is the most important role a striker plays, charging around the back four aimlessly. Because, admit it, that's the long and short of it here. Its not that Luque doesn't run into space to recieve a throughball or a cross or that he doesn't come to the ball to link up play, or that he doesn't go for headers when someone hits a long ball up field, because he did all of those things against Palermo. The problem people have with him is that he's not running as fast as he can around the back four when the opposition have the ball. Fine, I can understand people wanting him to do that, it can be of some use to hussle a defence on odd occasions. But its certainly not the be all and end all of movement or desire and its not one of the more important parts of playing Football. But to the great and 'knowledgeable' Geordie public, famed for cheering more at a heavy tackle then a great peice of skill, its apparently the only thing that matters.. Or to a lot of them anyway, I shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush of course since quite a lot of people here want to see Luque given a chance.

Forgeting for a moment the obvious fact that you have no clue what any of our players are interested in, why on earth would a Footballer not want to play Football? I mean really, how silly... Luque has never hidden or pretended he can't play and has always looked eager to get onto the field. Obviously what you really call not being interested is in fact not racing about the back four in an attempt to look useful.. The stupidest part of all this is that if Roeder had given Luque a good run in the first team recently we could not possibly be any lower then we are down the table now (almost definitely higher as even a lethargic Luque can pop a couple of 30 yarders in out of nothing, as he showed against Liverpool) and nobody on this forum or anywhere else would be in any doubt wether he was worth playing or not, because we'd all have seen for ourselves either way. Same goes for the next few games really, we have no chance against Arsenal with our current strike force, something even you admit. Yet you would rather keep the status quo, which may I remind you is losing just about every game possible, rather then changing things and seeing what happens. Another thing that I find quite amusing is the fact that people like you on one hand call Roeder insane for his decisions such as playing Ameobi when obviously badley injured and then on the other hand use the fact that he won't play Luque as some kind of evidence of how crap he is. As if Roeder is utterly clueless at judging players and picking teams and should be sacked.. er.. but he must be spot on about Luque , amazing. Anyway rant over, now for a more on topic rant. Is Roeder blind or insane? Ameobi looked absolutely useless against Man City, litterally useless, why on earth does he think that he'll be any more effective against Arsenal? We have quite a few players far better equipped then Ameobi currently is to play up front. If he hates Luque so much then there's still Rossi, Sibierski and Dyer who could play there and be a million times better then Shola with his current problems. I honestly can't grasp the reasoning behind this decision, its completely baffling and there's no doubt in my mind that Roeder has surpassed even Souness when it comes to poor decision making. At least Souness's bad decisions were based on something, usually his own ego, but this is something else..

..... I bluesigh.gif..... What do you want for £1m? In terms of fee paid, he's been as good as we can expect imo. I don't want an incompetent player for any money though. That said he's still far better value then Carr, who's incompetent and cost £2.5 million Incidentally Roeder thinks both of them are wonderful, two of our best players in fact..

35 appearances last season and 11 this year isn't too bad mind. I don't know, I think the fact that he plays so many games for us is incredibly bad.

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First-half diagnosis? Sack Roeder! Second-half diagnosis? Sack Roeder!! Full-time diagnosis? Sack Roeder!!! Star man for United? Sack Roeder!!!! Worst United player? Sack Roeder!!!!! Opposition comment? Sack Roeder!!!!!! Toon-pros? Sack Roeder!!!!!!! Toon-cons? Sack Roeder!!!!!!!! Post-match feelings? For gods sake sack Roeder now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That team makes me cry.. Roeder out

No, could you point me to some articles on it?, I'd like to know the specifics of the situation.

Good idea, we all need it. Seriously all these threads do now is remind me of the decent team we could put out if we didn't have roland rat in charge, fucking depressing.

Against FIFA rules. If a player is called up (even if they have retired) they have to go, or be suspended from playing for their club. Where does it say that in the rules?? We're talking about international Football here, not national service. Its entirely up to the player wether or not they're available to be called up..

There's no point in me, or anyone else "lineing em up", because Roeder will play the same old shit anyway.

Because all of our fans deserve so much respect don't they? I've wanted to give some of our fans a slap many a time during games, a little sarcastic clap at a bunch of fans showing just how fickle they are is hardly a crime..

Rossi looked twice the player Luque was in a game Luque didn't play in?, well thats difficult.. How about we compare both players in a game they both played in, the Shef UTD game. Rossi was poor and didn't come close to scoring, Luque came on and looked better then him. Yes Rossi has been playing up front almost by himself. But the game before Luque had played the same role, probably even more isolated actually, against the top of the table serie A side and scored the winner.. Yet apparently Luque doesn't deserve to play and Rossi does?... Don't get me wrong, unlike some I'm not pig headed, I think Rossi is a good player and should get a chance. But so should Luque, preferably both in the same team. Yet the idiot controlling this team will no doubt continue to play Rossi up front by himself, a position he failed at badley, with the inept Duff backing him up. What's even more beyond belief in my opinion is that your actually happy with that..