Northern Monkey

So i'll ask again - a player is absolutely shocking, awful. Again. How do you suggest that fans get across their displeasure at this?

Pathetic purchase, fantastic sale. How anyone could have paid that for him after they'd seen him "play" for us is incredible. God bless them.

Its a good symbol of our decline that anyone actual thinks he might be a decent capture.

Physical abuse? f****** grow up. You are the one who should grow up. You wrote the bold bit yourself. What should we do, then? How do we get across fans displeasure at, say an utterly, utterly inept and s*** performance? How do we let the players/management/board know that we are not happy to accept s****? What's your answer? Boo the manager. Boo the chairman. They are the people in charge, especially the latter who has misled fans and treat fans with contempt for years. And I don't think that booing is "needless abuse", its a way of getting across displeasure, but not during the actual game. What has Parker done to warrant your abuse? Simply being an average footballer? It is needless to boo a player simply because he is very average. It is needless to boo an average player who has given his best in abusive manner. It is hence a needless abuse to boo an average player abusively. So, you think no displeasure shoudl ever be shown towards the players if they perform absolutely terribly, and let their team mates/fans/etc down? You must adore Ameobi, Shambles and Babayaro then. And they'll like you too, their ideal fan.

Slow, dark haired journeyman? Players seen as not good enough but as soon as they leave people are saying we should have never have let them go etc... I remember when it happened with AOB of all people! I think those people were drunk. Fact is, AOB was on the same level as Shambles, neither of them are/were good enough, and i will be as happy to see Bramble fuck off as i was when we peddled AOB. The team is better without them.

We've fallen in the last 4 years, but we've fallen and risen in the past aswell. In 1998, for 4 seasons we finished 13th twice and 11th twice, but then we rise again at get in the Champions League. Without meaning to sound like NE5/HTL, we've 'fallen', yet we still spent £15m last summer - far more than most clubs. We've been shit this season, but we've not exactly done a Leeds have we? If we were bottom of the Championship 4-5 years after being CL Semi Finalists, then we'd be able to worry! A few decent signings and we've got the potential to be a good team again. at least 4. As for NUFC.com, they HAVE disappeared up their own arses, but at least they care. They are a bit "soopafan", but they are right about one thing - if you don't go to the game, you have less right to comment on that game. Because you don't see enough of the game, simple as. Agreed, and if you travel over 1000 miles each for each home game does that get you a special award? Maybe qualifies you for a wank off Dyer? Soopatosser tbh. I think that if you have to cross more than one timezone, Dyer picks you up in his Hummer, and you get to suck him off on the way to SJP.

Hope are talking about another Chopra and not Michael "The new Shearer" Chopra who is the second greatest player we ever let go ever!!!!11!! No, the other one, the one who was shit at the highest level. You're thinking of the GOOD Chopra, the one who was GUARANTEED to be great in the premiership, and was not at all a lightweight, below par striker.

A good idea, but then you get some forces in this country who are absolutely fucking clueless, and wouldn't be able to tell Johnny F how to police a Summer Fayre, never mind a match. Until the filth in places like Italy end their relationship with the "ultras", its never going to change. The concept of polic no-go areas in certain grounds, organised ambushes and murder of police officers in any other country would lead to a clamp down by the rozzers. In Italy, they still turn a blind eye to the badness as long as there's foreigners to batter. Mind, some of the travelling Man Utd fans can be utter cunts as well. But thats hardly an excuse to hit them with sticks.

Physical abuse? Fucking grow up. What should we do, then? How do we get across fans displeasure at, say an utterly, utterly inept and shit performance? How do we let the players/management/board know that we are not happy to accept shite? What's your answer? And I don't think that booing is "needless abuse", its a way of getting across displeasure, but not during the actual game.

Sidwell - Good player on a free. Really? I've only seen him a few times for full games, and he's looked nothing special. Maybe as a squad player, if we pay him particularly low wages, it'll be ok. We don't need any more journeymen for the first team, we have enough of them already.

So the fans are entitled to abuse Parker, simply because he is not a good enough footballer? If you want to abuse a player, what's the difference between abusing him during the game and only during half time or aftermath? They are entitled to do whatever they want, frankly. Thats their choice. SO you think no-one should vent their feelings at half time, or after the game? Should we all cheer loudly and shout "ole!" every time PArker twists uneccessarily into the path of another opponent, or Shambles loses yet another man he's "marking", thus legitimising their shitness? I reserve the right to let my voice be heard after the match. Thats our chance.

Slow, dark haired journeyman?

Welcome To Newcastle-Online. Knee-jerk City. Avoid if looking for the town of Common Sense, you passed that a long time ago.. Yeah, common sense says that he's BOUND to be a great player. What next, Steve CLaridge? He's got bags of experience but no top achievements too.

That's pretty tough - isn't the boy only 16? But as others have said, at that age it's more about coaching and development, and it no one would say we have the setup to groom young talent... It IS very early, although soem real, genuine talents are already knocking on the door at 16 - look at Vaughan at Everton. Vaughan is 18 I believe. He was the youngest goalscorer a while back.

Will you disown your friend if he describes people who treat him badly using the c word, because your human development dictated that the c word is forbidden? I'm more concerned with whether he's okay at the moment actually, Stevie, than with a pathetic internet argument. I'm disgusted I have to feel inhibited in 2007, because a THIRTY THREE year old woman finds certain words offensive. I hope the cunts ok too. 32 actually. And thanks. Will you disown your friend if he describes people who treat him badly using the c word, because your human development dictated that the c word is forbidden? I'm more concerned with whether he's okay at the moment actually, Stevie, than with a pathetic internet argument. I'm disgusted I have to feel inhibited in 2007, because a THIRTY THREE year old woman finds certain words offensive. I hope the cunts ok too. ha ha! You feel inhibited?! Somehow i doubt it. PS - cunt is allowed now.

That's pretty tough - isn't the boy only 16? But as others have said, at that age it's more about coaching and development, and it no one would say we have the setup to groom young talent... It IS very early, although soem real, genuine talents are already knocking on the door at 16 - look at Vaughan at Everton. Its far too early to say how he'll go, of course i just don't know if he's shown enough to hint that he will develop into a very good player. For every Wayne Rooney there are hundreds of Danny Cadematri's.

As would i. And i fear who WILL be coming in. Shepherd actually managed to get a worse manager than Souness this time. f*** knows what'll happen next time. Steve Bruce anyone? I really can't see Allardyce having already been lined up. Sounds like ITK bollocks. But having said that, if Roeder loses next week he will probably go anyway. And we'll all suddenly remember how tedious, annoying and bitterly disappointing the search for a manager actually is. Not as tedious, annoying and bitterly disappointing as having Roeder as manager. Agree about Big Fat Sam, and the ITK bollocks.

Gooch is no worse than Shambles, and costs us a lot less. And at the end of the season, Gooch is gone as well, so we're winners! Either way, it can only be in the best interests of the club for this fuckwit to leave. Inferring that because another player is also not very good means we would be harmed by keeping Shambles is laughable.

And this warrants Parker those abusive boohs? If we should boo a very average football player why don't we boo Edgar, Huntington, Gooch, Harper, Babayaro, Taylor, Bramble, Moore, Carr, Milner, Butt, Duff and Sibierski? And Dyer and Emre. Its partly that spinning on the ball thing, i'm guessing. There's no need for it, it does no good, and if anything it wastes time we have that we could be pressing the attack. I don't personally believe in booing players DURING the game, but fans should be able to let their feelings be known at half time/after the game.

As would i. And i fear who WILL be coming in. Shepherd actually managed to get a worse manager than Souness this time. Fuck knows what'll happen next time.

BUT - Roeder has to go, regardless of Shepherd. He simply isn't good enough. Having the best chairman in the world wouldn't make Roeder a competent manager. Yes mate, I'm not saying Roeder should stay, just stating that given the prediciment of the club, Shepherd should have been peddled way before he appointed Roeder. Undoubtedly. He shoudl have gone when Souness did. Culpability was clear. I'd let him run a business, but his footballing brain is as tiny as Brambles.

I think you're right about Faye. I think we sold him for about 2million times his actual worth, but i'm sure we paid more than that for him.

Very well said. I totally agree. Dyer contributes very little, in fairness. More than Duff, and more than Emre on his "disappearing" days. But he's still very fucking average. True. But average defenders would be a massive step forward. If getting them means keeping Dyer, then it's an improvement at least. No doubt - average defenders would be a massive, massive improvement on Shambles, Moore, Babayaro, Damage and Carr. But i don't think it needs to be an "either/or" thing. For the money we pay, we should get better than Dyer, and that should be seperate to the need for actual defenders, not instead of.

BUT - Roeder has to go, regardless of Shepherd. He simply isn't good enough. Having the best chairman in the world wouldn't make Roeder a competent manager.

Shut uuuuuuuup!!!