Northern Monkey

Capel is a legend on FM 

Where do you think the poster got him from??

how is Bentley unrealistic? if we put in a big enough bid he'd jump at the chance imo.

 

Why?

 

he plays for blackburn and this is a far, far bigger club with more potential and the ability to offer bigger wages. where we are in the table this season isn't that relevant. not to say we'd get him, but if we were the only side in for him i couldn't see him turning us down.

 

They're a smaller team than us, certainly - we are an average sized club, they are not. More potential? More money, certainly, but lets not pretend we are anywhere fuckng nearrealising our "potential". Some fools thought Bramble, Dire, Shola et al had "potential" - but it didn't stop them being of very little value to us.

 

But with a new, well established manager at the helm in the form of Keegan, there is arguably alot of promise for next season's campaign and I'm sure players such as Bentley could be swayed because of this.

Are you? You think they'd take a backwards step in the hope that a manager (for whom they have no particularly positive feelings that we are aware of, and who has poven to be a pretty medicore manager since a brief moment of apparent genius at NUFC over a decade ago) will turn around a club that has not done anything for a long? Keegan is not well-established manager in the sense of being a great manager, so why woud a player like Bentley want to coem here, other than money? And if we accept that signing for the money is perfectly reasonable, i hope that we have the honesty to accept also that these players may well have more genuine feeling for their country than their club - because if we acccept the former and not the latter, we will be bigger cunts than Gasuso.

Seal-tastic defender and signing from Bolton, Abdoullaye Faye, is well and truly back in the fold at SJP after being given a ringing endorsement by King Kev. Having been absent at the Cup on Nations for the best part of the month, the big fella has been a massive miss as Cacapa has failed to deal with the sorts of physical presence thrown up by Adebayor, Harewood and co. Faye is of course "Stronger" than the Brazilian, something noted by KK:

 

"I am delighted to have Abdoulaye back. I have been very impressed with both him and Habib Beye. They both played a part in Senegal`s tournament and now have a role to play here. As far as Abdoulaye is concerned, he is a very good professional and he`s done a very good job here. He`s a big lad and we certainly need some height in the team at the moment. But it`s not only his height, he has great experience as well."

 

 

Hmm....he hasn't seen any football for 3 years, but he can identify someone who's done a very good job (in only 9 games). Goodness, he really is Messianic!

Or, of course, this could be the same kind of shite that stupid fans always believe.........

The Sevilla guy is Diego Capel, amazing this year and young

 

We should not be signing any more Spaniards.

Yeah, only French, like, erm Boumsong, or English, like Smith and Barton.

how is Bentley unrealistic? if we put in a big enough bid he'd jump at the chance imo.

 

Why?

 

he plays for blackburn and this is a far, far bigger club with more potential and the ability to offer bigger wages. where we are in the table this season isn't that relevant. not to say we'd get him, but if we were the only side in for him i couldn't see him turning us down.

They're a smaller team than us, certainly - we are an average sized club, they are not. More potential? More money, certainly, but lets not pretend we are anywhere fuckng nearrealising our "potential". Some fools thought Bramble, Dire, Shola et al had "potential" - but it didn't stop them being of very little value to us.

Deco pace? 

 

I doubt we could get Nani on loan, i expect him to be making a bigger impact at Manu next season, its going to plan, him and Anderson.

 

Bentley i think is a possibility, why not?

 

Arshavin & Barnes should of been bought in the winter window, lets hope we go for them next window, and Dunne's release clause would be great to trigger, £1.5m? Citeh must be shitting themselves.

 

Because he's not smacked off his tits, probably. We're worse than the likes of Boro at the moment, we're not in Europe, we've got no history of success, he's young and very talented and English, got a massive future if he plays his cards right (Beckham's replacement ffs!?), he's got a highly-rated English right-winger already here which would be unwanted competition*, and if the top four or a big club from abroad don't come in for him now - he'll wait at Blackburn another season, who are a decent side with a decent manager.

 

Let's face it, Bentley would be mad to come here. He's not realistic at all imo.

 

 

 

 

*Milner is highly-rated, maybe not by us, but on the whole.

 

That's all your opinion and not Bentley's by any means. You don't know what he's thinking, he might decide, and rightly so, that Newcastle next season would be a good move with KK being backed in the transfer market. [/]b]

 

Blackburn are a decent team with shite fans, he might decide a nice wage and a proper supported club is what he wants. He might not, but to say no for certain is a bit premature, besides, why would the top four go for him? I doubt Arsenal will go and pay £13m+ for a player they sold for peanuts, Chelsea have SWP who's back in form, Manu simply have too many mids already and Liverpool are in turmoil in terms of manager and playing squad.

 

Spuds have Lennon.

 

So we don't look too bad a proposition imo, considering he's got no appeal on the continent.

 

 

Erm, YOU don't know what Bentley is thinking, either. And Keegan hasn't set the world on fire for a good long time now, Hughes looks t be a better manager at the moment*.

* Please note, it is now 2008, not 1996.

Pace players I reckon. A real injection mainly in midfield.

 

Arshavin

Deco

Bentley

Barnes

Dunne

Nani(loan)

 

Are all possible

Possible based on what?

On us being a solidly medium-sized club?

On us being in the bottom half of the table?

On us having no recent history of success?

Yeah, players like Bentley and Nani are going to be fucking BEGGING to come here.

 

No he wasn't, the club sold Ferdinand because they thought it was good money for a player of his age, when Shearer got injured they asked him to stay but he'd already given his word to Spurs and wanted to keep it.

 

The club didn't want money for the PLC either, they needed the money because they owed the bank £6 million they had borrowed to sign Shearer and were told they couldn't borrow any more until they had paid that back, they made the majority of this by selling Holland, Huckerby and Kitson 6 months before Ferdinand left.

 

Can you remember Dalglish on Sky after the game at Goodison when he was asked about the Ferdinand sale?  He said something like not knowing anything about the Ferdinand sale.

And you believe what a manager says on Sky. Come one, you know better than that.

I liked it when the ground was simple and the only sign was the Newcastle United on the front of the east stand.

With plain coloured seating and no words picked out, and not even a flashy electronic scoreboard I think it marked SJP as being as bit distinctive from a lot of other stadiums.

The Sports direct sign does look cheap but fooball is like that these days so theres no point moaning.

 

Yes, we looked like a f****** hick club.

 

we look like a hick club now, the sports direct logo makes us look like blyth spartans.

 

 

 

Yeah, clubs with visible advertising are all tiny clubs. But we looked HUGE without even a fucking clock.

Season tickets for us aren't the cheapest, but i don't think they're a rip off quite yet. Too many rises above inflation would be, though.

Hopefully he'll never come back. Shame he didn't take Smith, BArton, Butt, Viduka and Ameobi with him. But we can't have everything, i guess.

 

Not sure what your problem is with Viduka.

I think he's vastly over rated, far too highly paid, and of little particular value to us outside of the fact that we've managed to accrue a pretty shite batch of forwards.

We mocked him, rightly, of rbeing fat and lazy before he came here, and then suddenly he signs for us, and he's "world class".  He's NOT, by the way. He's nothing more than a journeyman pro, with frequently exaggerated ability and contribution. And he's fat and lazy.

Hopefully he'll never come back. Shame he didn't take Smith, BArton, Butt, Viduka and Ameobi with him. But we can't have everything, i guess.

I liked it when the ground was simple and the only sign was the Newcastle United on the front of the east stand.

With plain coloured seating and no words picked out, and not even a flashy electronic scoreboard I think it marked SJP as being as bit distinctive from a lot of other stadiums.

The Sports direct sign does look cheap but fooball is like that these days so theres no point moaning.

Yes, we looked like a fucking hick club.

If a logo is all people have to get worried about, they are clearly mentals.

What decisions has Mort made that people would be kicking up over under Shepherd?

Sacking Allardyce after half a season, sacking a manager in the middle of a transfer window, not buying any players in January, appointing Dennis Wise as Director of Football, appointing a DoF that wasn't the manager's choice, going for Redknapp. Just off the top of my head. Fairly or unfairly I'm pretty confident Shepherd would have gotten criticism for all that (by that I acknowledge at least one of those wasn't neccessarily the chairman and/or owner's decision).

 

Sacking Allardyce after half a season: what alternative was there in reality? Ashley decided to give him a go as opposed to sacking immediately, but if he wasn't convinced once it became clear it wasn't working, it made sense to get his own man in and make preparations for next season rather thasn hang around

 

January window: not always possible to get the players you want in such a short time.

 

Dennis Wise: criticism or no criticism, no one really knows how this will pan out. It might be a masterstroke or a mistake - only time will tell.

 

Redknapp: yes that was a cock up.

 

 

Wise - its a fucking joke, and you know it is.

Transfer window - toher clubs seem to be able to get players in. And our players are, in many positions, shit, so please don't use the "can we  get better in" response. Because yes, we could have, or we are fucked.

I think Maloney fouled him originally tbh

Thats ok then. That makes reacting in an overtly violent, disgraceful manner absolutely fine.

He's a cunt, and the sooner we fuck him off the better.

I don't think either team has a better group of players, they both have better balance throughout their squads though.

 

Fat Sam went overboard on the grafters.

 

It'll only take 2 good central midfielders to turn us into a top 7 team.

Erm, where is the top 7 quality left back? Or striker? or back up for EVERY position?

Cacapa to stay, don't see the point of getting rid of our 2nd best centre half on the books.

hahahaahahahahahaha!!

Come on, you can't be so stubborn in your dislike of a player that you would actually talk THAT much shite.

It still would've left us with the shower of s**** midfield we have now so it makes no f****** difference.

 

Our defenders aren't that bad. The problem is that our midfield can't hold onto the ball and can't turn defence into attack. Allardyce made no mention of midfield targets he missed out on which suggests he was happy with what he had. That in itself proves what a complete arse he is

 

Perhaps he would have bought MF targets in the Jan window...No one can really know.

 

What became pretty obvious was that Allardyce simply did not have the confidence of Ashley/Mort. For a man who built his career on results football, the results started indifferently and were headed south at an alarming rate.

 

He may have had targets but he didn't have the backing to buy them, and he can only blame himself for that. He tried to impose a tactical system with players it clearly didn't work with. Unless he was going to buy 11 new players it was irrelevant.

 

 

 

 

A couple of midfielders would not have changed the fact our entire strikeforce was utterly unsuited to Allardyce's tactics. It would not have changed the fact that our midfielders were by ability, fitness and temperament all unsuitable to his defensive flooding tactics.

 

All we can know is that Allardyce simply failed to come to grips with the players he had to use. So all we were left with was Bolton. The prospect, that given time, and money, he may well turn us into another Bolton, with perhaps slightly better results. No-one here wants to become Bolton. We certainely don't want to risk being relegated trying. So he got booted, and rightly so. At the time I thought 'may as well give him til summer' but in retrospect it was the right thing to do. Allardyce never showed he could adapt tactics, or change in any way to suit far higher expectations and far different playing staff.

 

In short, we do know. We know he wasn't good enough.

 

How would they know shit from shat?

 

in fairness, they got that one right - Allardyce was crap.

all the teams below us would love to have Emre or Viduka in their side. the reason they're down there is because they don't have quality in their sides, lots of battlers and workers without much talent (Alan Smith) though.

Erm, the teams BELOW us might want Emre or Viduka, but the teams ABOVE us (i.e. where WE SHOUDL BE) don't want them. What does that tell you?

I think Viduka is class but we can't rely on him as he's so injury proned.

Viduka is class? Based on what?

I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football.

 

If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week.

 

If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked.

 

Why? Who would you prefer in their place?

Good players, obviously.

I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football.

 

If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week.

If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked.

I think for Sam it was bad timing that Ashley took over when he did, I'm sure if Freddy was there in the beginning with him he would have been given the money he really wanted to buy the players that was his first choice, unlucky for him Ashley got control and was never going to give him the funds that he was promised as Sam wasn't his choice, that's why I think most of Sam's signings were not his first choice.

You don't think Faye was his choice?

 

Or any of the other 8 he brought in?

 

Yes they were his choice, but probably not his first, out of all the players he brought in though most definitely Faye, Beye and Enrique you could class as a success but then again I don't think Sam is the only Manager who has bought in players and they turned out to be shit, this is nothing unique.

 

His first choice players were Distin and Ben Haim, he also went for Silvestre, Wes Brown and Heinze who but got turned down for one reason or another, that's according to his interview in the Mag anyway.

 

You could say the same about any manager that they would do better if they had more money, the fact is though that Allardyce spent around £18 million on Joey Barton with his well known baggage, Enrique who he left out of the first team more often than not and Alan Smith who's shite.

 

 

We don't know who his first choices were, it was all media talk - i.e. bullshit.

 

He said Distin and Ben Haim were his first choices in an interview so it's hardly media bullshit.

Yeah, we shoudl believe everythging that everyone says in an interview - thats exactly how football people do business.

Either way, he signed 9 players for £25m, and so far, only one of them has proven to be worthwhile.

I think for Sam it was bad timing that Ashley took over when he did, I'm sure if Freddy was there in the beginning with him he would have been given the money he really wanted to buy the players that was his first choice, unlucky for him Ashley got control and was never going to give him the funds that he was promised as Sam wasn't his choice, that's why I think most of Sam's signings were not his first choice.

You don't think Faye was his choice?

 

Or any of the other 8 he brought in?

 

Yes they were his choice, but probably not his first, out of all the players he brought in though most definitely Faye, Beye and Enrique you could class as a success but then again I don't think Sam is the only Manager who has bought in players and they turned out to be shit, this is nothing unique.

Enrique, a success? Fucking ridiculous.

And Faye. How many games has he played, in the league?