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It would actually be a good marketing ploy. Although I'm sure something would have to be done to get Mr. Beckham involved, bound to happen.

Not sure. Cantona never did it for France but was head and shoulders better than anyone in England for a few years. Hoddle was a fantastic player at club level. Geore Best too. That they never made it at international level may be down to circumstances. I'm prepared to listen to your opinion on players, cos you've actually seen them play. Neither of us has been in the board room to see first hand how we end up with £100m debts, so its open to debate. Cantona's scoring record for France was unbelievable, I wouldn't say he never done it for them.

KD yous definitely need a centre midfielder who's capable of grabbing the game and the team for that matter by the scruff of the neck. Would make a hell of a lot of difference IMO. blueyes.gif

The only time Owen would be good on the shoulder of the last man is if their defence was no further out than the 18 yard box. Martins should be starting every away game as far as I'm concerned. Completely agree.

Put a pair of sunglasses on him and we can start calling him The Dude.

Speaking of Shearer. Been a bit nostalgic today and been watching a few Shearer videos and such, in his prime the man was absolutely World Class, best forward this country has had for decades. Such a shame we only got one season of the Shearer we signed.

Great shout that mate, everyone believed as well that Wales team would have beaten Brazil in '58 if he was playing. Tragic as well what happened to him after he retired.

I know not on the same level or anything as such but Paul Ince was quite a success at Inter.

Terry McDermott as well actually, hell of a player, could run all day. I'm struggling at the moment NE5 to think of anyone beyond Keegan, as he wasn't just a success on the pitch, he was a success off it as well, integrated himself completely with the culture and the way of life. (And I'm not just talking about those rumours either. )

Alex how I've missed our chats putting the history of football to rights in the Trent.

All of the Scouse fans rate Kenny as the best they've ever seen, personally from what I've seen I would say so as well.

Oh it is, Jan Molby, there's tons of them. I think a lot of the reason as well behind this is because the Sky fans of today only saw these players as they were coming into retirement so just dismiss them so easily. Aye, Molby man. What a passer. He never went more than 10 yards from the centre-circle (exaggeration, but you know what I mean) but he used to run the show. Mark Lawrenson was a class centre-half too and was excellent alongside Hansen, who was more of a sweeper. Graeme Souness was one of the best midfielders in the world at his peak. Then you had people like Craig Johnston. And Kenny Dalglish was probably the best of the lot. I got laughed at on another board for saying Souness would walk into any side right now. Lawro man, he was absolutely lightning, great defensive coach as well. Unfortunately, Souness was the Roy Keane and Steven Gerrard of his day in this country, and he was a true world class player. He nearly signed for Newcastle from the smoggies too. From what I've seen I don't rate Gerrard as high as Souness. I'd also like to note on Gerrard, I never once saw him get the better of Roy Keane or Vieira, even when Keane was into his 30's, Gerrard never once dominated him in a game. I rate Bryan Robson as the best of the lot though.

I doubt many rate John Barnes the England player, he was shite. I've got a theory about this, which fits the way he played at Watford too. Its just that he was a player who needed a lot of the ball and good options around him. When he played for Liverpool, they gave him the ball and read his game, when he played for England it was more of a level playing field and he shrank into a shell too much. Things like this boil down to personality and the desire to make things happen etc It's all down to mentality and how mentally tough you are that separates the greats from the also rans, same reason why Jenas will never be a top player, he's got no bottle when it comes down to the crunch.

Oh it is, Jan Molby, there's tons of them. I think a lot of the reason as well behind this is because the Sky fans of today only saw these players as they were coming into retirement so just dismiss them so easily. Aye, Molby man. What a passer. He never went more than 10 yards from the centre-circle (exaggeration, but you know what I mean) but he used to run the show. Mark Lawrenson was a class centre-half too and was excellent alongside Hansen, who was more of a sweeper. Graeme Souness was one of the best midfielders in the world at his peak. Then you had people like Craig Johnston. And Kenny Dalglish was probably the best of the lot. I got laughed at on another board for saying Souness would walk into any side right now. Lawro man, he was absolutely lightning, great defensive coach as well.

Oh it is, Jan Molby, there's tons of them. I think a lot of the reason as well behind this is because the Sky fans of today only saw these players as they were coming into retirement so just dismiss them so easily.

That team could have so easily dominated Europe with some of the players they had, shame about the fans letting them down, although that's a debate I don't want to bring up in this discussion. I mean Rush and Aldridge, both prolific and would be worth how much now? We all know the genius of Pedro. Barnes on his club form was one of the best players on the planet before that injury robbed him of his pace. Hansen we all know was fantastic, Stevie Nicol, criminally underrated by fans now etc. Before any makes a remark I'm not a Liverpool fan, just a fan of good football.

Football in the days of standing terraces etc was better than now johnny, thats the main difference. It was great seeing those individual players, but believe me, supporting Newcastle now is watching a far better club than those days. You will grow up and talk about Shearer, Rob Lee, Ginola, Sir Les and the title challenge in 1996. People of my age never had anything like that. It is less of a working mans game now, and so has suffered. Those players were players who were closer to the public than too many players now. I know mate, I'm grateful that I can talk about such a team and some of the players that we have had over the past 15 or 16 years since I started supporting the team. Although the Promotion season is still the highlight for me, everything about that season was perfect. As everyone knows I do take quite an interest in the History of the game as such, one thing I've noticed as well know the out and out goalscorer is now becoming a thing of the past. I've been watching some documentaries lately in particular on Ian Rush and Gary Lineker, players like this are dying out now, it's such a shame, as there's so much emphasis now on fitness, work rate etc players like this are now becoming gold dust. Although tbf to Rushie, he was always the first line of defence and he didn't half work his arse off, fantastic player. On the same note in and around the same time, Aldo as well, hell of a centre forward who rarely gets a mention now for what he was.

For every Fergie, Wenger etc there's 10 Cristian Gross'.

His brother had similar problems. I agree like, let his football do the talking.

I know it hasn't been the easiest of rides over the years for us. But at times I am quite gutted I'm only 22 and never got the chance to see the likes of Tony Green, Gazza during the 86/87 season (which me dad never shuts up about) Nattrass, Hibbett, Tommy Craig etc in their pomp for us.

Why is everyone talking like a Grolsch advert?

You should work for The Sun. Take that back now! You bastard. Nigerian Sun FYI.

I think he doesn't look as skillful on the ball, which isn't a gripe btw as we all know what Cristiano can do. He does to me however appear to have more of a work ethic.

Leazes is gonna be all over this thread now.

Me thinks people are reading too much into this article with Berbatov and his man love for Sir Al.