OzzieMandias

I'm sure it's nothing more than an oversight on your part, NE5, but as far as I can see you haven't yet answered a question I put to you earlier. If Dalglish getting us to a cup final demonstrates that he was "successful", how do you explain Freddy sacking him a few games later?

Once again, HTL can only focus on the small picture.

Very good story. Thanks for posting that!

We had the easiest ride to the final, though still nearly got turned over by Stevenage (!), and put in a pitiful performance at Wembley. Oh well, the team got losers' medals. If this made Dalglish a success, why did Fat Fredface get rid of him so quickly?

Sentimentality is a large part of what makes Shepherd bad though. You want Fred out, who do you see replacing him, because if you're expecting some one to come, buy the club and just pour money into it out of love for the club, it's not going to happen. There is no Geordie Abramovic, such a person doesn't exist, but there are people who could come in and improve the club, but they'll be expecting a return on their investment, and if they do, I'm happy for them to get one. that is correct. But there are also plenty of people who would not improve the club either, and want a return too. LIke Freddy Shepherd, for example.

Sentimentality is a large part of what makes Shepherd bad though. You want Fred out, who do you see replacing him, because if you're expecting some one to come, buy the club and just pour money into it out of love for the club, it's not going to happen. There is no Geordie Abramovic, such a person doesn't exist, but there are people who could come in and improve the club, but they'll be expecting a return on their investment, and if they do, I'm happy for them to get one. It's not as if the Shepherds and Halls are philanthropists. Both families have made fortunes out of the club.

If there was a well-funded takeover he's the kind of guy new ownership might bring in.

At club level Sven has won more trophies and titles than our last five managers combined. I'd love to have him but I can't see him fitting into our current set-up. Maybe if Fat Fred goes.

Didn't Keegan once get the hump and refuse to talk to the Ronnie Gill anymore? They're scared of that happening again.

There's no chance of anyone that intelligent wanting to work for Fat Freddy. He can get high wages elsewhere.

Aye, never trust the London-based cockney media! Oh, hang on...

your stretching things a bit far to blame FF for that FFS and what's with all these SBR book quotes? Has it just reached the bargain bin at Lidll or summat? I read those months ago on several forums so did I and I've already gave my response. Alex should have seen it as he does nowt else at work but read message boards. EDIT. Invicta and kiwi make some good points. I dont' expect the deluded and blind to listen though. People wanted rid of Keegan because they thought we would automatically do better with someone more "tactically astute". People wanted rid of Bobby Robson because they thought we would automatically do better. Now they want rid of the current board because they think we will automatically do better. Be careful what you wish for. Some people never learn. As for Fox, he constantly moans on. He said we had a bad defence when Keegan was here, despite conceding less than a goal a game in 1995-96. He complains we appoint managers who are failures...despite being asked who he would appoint and what criteria he would adopt as he thinks Dalglish was underqualified, but won't give us his opinion. This is a serious question, I would like to know. So tiresome respoonding to made up nonsense. Firstly I did not say we had a bad defence under Keegan, I said the defence was the weakest part of the team and if we had a top quality keeper at the time, and Srnicek wasn't, then we would have won the league. Secondly its in bold so perhaps you would quote the actual post where I said Dalglish was under qualified, you wont be able to because like your as bad as HTL you make up things as you go along. What I said several times, but you have not grasped it, was that Dalglish was not a successful appointment. Presumably you disagree and I would be interested to hear why you think he was a success. NE5 and HTL seem to think that Dogleash should have been a successful appointment and therefore, in some sense, was. Same goes for Gullit and Souness, I guess. Anything rather than Fat Fred actually taking the responsibility for the consequences of his decisions.

He's just grumpy because he's wrong and everyone else is right.

About a million more messages since I last looked.

Shepherd out!

Don't they have any songs in Lancashire?

Don't Man U sing some version of it as well?

Dalglish... sacked after a season because he was useless. Gullit... sacked after a season because he was useless. Souness... sacked after a season (and a bit) because he was useless. Roeder... ? As the saying goes: Once is chance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action. And four times is Fat Freddy Shepherd.

They're rattled. We need to keep the pressure up even if we get a few decent wins.

Blaydon Races is an old music-hall song, older than the club, yes, but not that much older. I think I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles is probably an old music-hall song, too.

It's like when SJH popped up to try and play things down after his son had been caught in a brothel with our chairman badmouthing Geordies to the News of the World.

Right. What we need is a plan and some solid investment in it, not some fat fuck throwing (our) money at the problem in the short-term interests of saving his own skin.

You think this is a good thing? No, an organisation that knew how to run a business and how to make the right kind of appointment would be fine, thanks. You've lost me here, save for the special dispensation -- when the chairmen graciously allowed us to appoint a shite manager, then probably laughed all the way home -- how is being in the shit with the FA over VAT, getting implicated re bungs and failing to get much out of FIFA (it's nowt to do with UEFA) any kind of argument for Fat Freddy? You seem to think we've got a chance of being taken over by your Fairy Godmother. I don't know that we won't, but who will miss Fat Fred talking shite? Irrelevant as he's obviously unable to deliver what we want -- except the thing we want most right now, which is to see the back of him.

No. Do you think Fat Freddy does? Did Fat Freddy have any experience of running a football club before he started running a football club? I reckon they'll have the sense to appoint someone who knows how to do it. Don't know, don't care. It's irrelevant. Do you think Fat Freddy puts the fans before the business of lining his pocket? Don't care. Irrelevant. No. Don't care, though. If Fat Fred understands, please point out to me how this makes his performance any better than what we can see on the pitch, read in the league table, or groan about in the newspapers?

'Zactamundo. Someone useless he can shove around or overrule. The problem is still Shepherd.