TRon

I don't know anything about this lad other than he plays for a s*** club. Why is he available on a free? because he's crap? I think so. ok

I don't know anything about this lad other than he plays for a shit club. Why is he available on a free? because he's crap?

It's my honest opinion that this sort of action will just antagonise Ashley and make him even more determined to run the business on a purely profit basis. Nothing to be gained at this point by getting antsy. in other words we've got nothing to lose? I did expand on that further down the page: Your honest opinion is flawed, he's running the business on a purely profit basis now and that has been his aim for at least as long as Llambias has been here. He could make a lot more profit out of it without signing players like Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Ba. In fact I reckon to run the club on a profit maximising basis he would have been mad to sell Nolan as you could get enough goals from a side playing long ball football with Nolan and a few other big hard players to ensure survival every season. Top that off with interest charges on his loan and he could make a tidy sum surely? fair enough but i wholly disagree. imo ashley doesnt care either way who plays for us or who doesnt so long as we 1. stay in the premier league 2. spend as little as possible Therefore to me, after having witnessed the Carroll sale and the things around it, cabaye, tiote, ben arfa are speculative buys. They'll do a job for us in that they'll keep us up but he wont think twice about cashing in on them if the offers come in, which they will. It's profit based player acquisition, hence the 'sell on value' that's trickled down to be in the forefront of so many supporters minds. Gone are the days when we consider the transfer fee and wages as a fair swap for what we get on the pitch, what we get when the player leaves the club is more important. This is all absolutely fine if you have balance, and our club is so out of balance now it's a frightening gamble, but we've seen him gamble before haven't we? And he'll keep doing it. We've been down the other route with Fat Fred where he was paying players far more than they were worth in order to sign them or keep them here, sometimes for emotional reasons rather than performance based. That landed us in a lot of debt. Now unfortunately we seem to have an owner who is going the other way completely and is being so tight with the finances it's in danger of stunting growth. Difficult to support either approach really so I'm with you, we have lost the balance required.

So what if we suddenly buy three players before the window closes like Alan Brazil reckons? Does that mean you and your mates will lose credibility? Agree about Johnny H btw. Tragic. Didn't realise it was against the law to change my opinion like. Credibility ffs. I stuck my neck out and said that Carroll was a one-off and that as long as the money was spent right, then I'd be happy. Carroll was followed by Enrique and I even half understood that situation, although I was disappointed that we didn't do enough to try and keep him. After that we sold our captain and that pissed me off. Then we got halfway through the transfer window, it became clear that we weren't going to spend a huge chunk of this Carroll money. Then we let N'Zogbia go elsewhere, a player I thought we should have definitely been in for. Then we do what we've done to one of attacking threats in Barton. You can kind of understand why I'm not happy and have 'changed my tune', even if it disagrees with your opinion. Not that I have to justify myself to you good post mate. seems that it's a bit of an alien concept to some to comment on things the way you see them, as they happen. I should maybe just point out here that it was Ian W who was coming in for stick for holding his views by people who didn't share them...and it was also Inochi who derided the concept of changing opinion. I don't know why some people think this is a one way thing.

Isn't that the whole point of the entertainment industry?

It's my honest opinion that this sort of action will just antagonise Ashley and make him even more determined to run the business on a purely profit basis. Nothing to be gained at this point by getting antsy. in other words we've got nothing to lose? I did expand on that further down the page: Your honest opinion is flawed, he's running the business on a purely profit basis now and that has been his aim for at least as long as Llambias has been here. He could make a lot more profit out of it without signing players like Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Ba. In fact I reckon to run the club on a profit maximising basis he would have been mad to sell Nolan as you could get enough goals from a side playing long ball football with Nolan and a few other big hard players to ensure survival every season. Top that off with interest charges on his loan and he could make a tidy sum surely?

So what if we suddenly buy three players before the window closes like Alan Brazil reckons? Does that mean you and your mates will lose credibility? Agree about Johnny H btw. Tragic. Didn't realise it was against the law to change my opinion like. Credibility ffs. I stuck my neck out and said that Carroll was a one-off and that as long as the money was spent right, then I'd be happy. Carroll was followed by Enrique and I even half understood that situation, although I was disappointed that we didn't do enough to try and keep him. After that we sold our captain and that p*ssed me off. Then we got halfway through the transfer window, it became clear that we weren't going to spend a huge chunk of this Carroll money. Then we let N'Zogbia go elsewhere, a player I thought we should have definitely been in for. Then we do what we've done to one of attacking threats in Barton. You can kind of understand why I'm not happy and have 'changed my tune', even if it disagrees with your opinion. Not that I have to justify myself to you WEll why did you then? Because I don't like my opinions and credibility put into question. Sorry like, but it's rather offensive. EDIT: In fact, it's even less credible to continue to blindly support the club's decisions because it's 'what i thought in the first place' I would agree with that Johnny, but how many people do you know here who actually do that? Not as many as continue to put that 'h' in my name. You've lost me there mate, I'm not even sure where this is going any more.

So what if we suddenly buy three players before the window closes like Alan Brazil reckons? Does that mean you and your mates will lose credibility? Agree about Johnny H btw. Tragic. Didn't realise it was against the law to change my opinion like. Credibility ffs. I stuck my neck out and said that Carroll was a one-off and that as long as the money was spent right, then I'd be happy. Carroll was followed by Enrique and I even half understood that situation, although I was disappointed that we didn't do enough to try and keep him. After that we sold our captain and that p*ssed me off. Then we got halfway through the transfer window, it became clear that we weren't going to spend a huge chunk of this Carroll money. Then we let N'Zogbia go elsewhere, a player I thought we should have definitely been in for. Then we do what we've done to one of attacking threats in Barton. You can kind of understand why I'm not happy and have 'changed my tune', even if it disagrees with your opinion. Not that I have to justify myself to you WEll why did you then? Because I don't like my opinions and credibility put into question. Sorry like, but it's rather offensive. EDIT: In fact, it's even less credible to continue to blindly support the club's decisions because it's 'what i thought in the first place' I would agree with that Johnny, but how many people do you know here who actually do that?

So what if we suddenly buy three players before the window closes like Alan Brazil reckons? Does that mean you and your mates will lose credibility? Agree about Johnny H btw. Tragic. Didn't realise it was against the law to change my opinion like. Credibility ffs. I stuck my neck out and said that Carroll was a one-off and that as long as the money was spent right, then I'd be happy. Carroll was followed by Enrique and I even half understood that situation, although I was disappointed that we didn't do enough to try and keep him. After that we sold our captain and that pissed me off. Then we got halfway through the transfer window, it became clear that we weren't going to spend a huge chunk of this Carroll money. Then we let N'Zogbia go elsewhere, a player I thought we should have definitely been in for. Then we do what we've done to one of attacking threats in Barton. You can kind of understand why I'm not happy and have 'changed my tune', even if it disagrees with your opinion. Not that I have to justify myself to you WEll why did you then?

So what if we suddenly buy three players before the window closes like Alan Brazil reckons? Does that mean you and your mates will lose credibility? Agree about Johnny H btw. Tragic. Depends who those players are, no? I'm expect us to make signings that improve the squad, that's precisely why I'll be pissed off if we don't. Replacing who we've lost/are losing is the bare minimum. Time is running out and I don't believe there are any excuses. There's still time to make three more signings of enough quality to come out of this looking stronger across the board than we were last season IMO. The question is down to the intent to make it happen which we can only guess at. If we make only token buys and attempt to appease the masses with that I don't think it will work. Ashley's in danger of burning all his bridges this time round and if he's a businessman he'd be bloody stupid to do that.

So what if we suddenly buy three players before the window closes like Alan Brazil reckons? Does that mean you and your mates will lose credibility? Agree about Johnny H btw. Tragic.

If Erdinc was a genuine target I don't think we would be fucked about for 7 weeks before calling it a day. It's either a smokescreen for the real target or a stalling tactic if you are sceptical we are going to sign any more strikers.

He could start by not saying stuff instead of making promises he can't keep. Theres a reason you never get a real answer from Hughton. Yes, lack of communication is always well appreciated by our fans. If you'd rather the listen to the nonsense from Pardew than what you got from Hughton enjoy it It's not me whingeing about lack of communication or examining Pardew's comments with a magnifying glass for discrepancies. All a load of fuss over minor details if you ask me.

as if...

How the hell can clubs like Leicester bid £7m for a player?

He could start by not saying stuff instead of making promises he can't keep. Theres a reason you never get a real answer from Hughton. Yes, lack of communication is always well appreciated by our fans.

That's assuming that the local press spread lies on behalf of the club. What if that's not true and it's just the impression created by irate fans who don't know any better?

He said that yesterday as well. Seemed fairly confident as well. I'm hoping his sources are genuine and he isn't being led up the garden path, but it would be a fairly stupid thing to do since he'd then let rip nationwide about it.

Your honest opinion is flawed, he's running the business on a purely profit basis now and that has been his aim for at least as long as Llambias has been here. He could make a lot more profit out of it without signing players like Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Ba. In fact I reckon to run the club on a profit maximising basis he would have been mad to sell Nolan as you could get enough goals from a side playing long ball football with Nolan and a few other big hard players to ensure survival every season. Top that off with interest charges on his loan and he could make a tidy sum surely?

If you can remember Tudor crisps then you're too old to fit Ashley's blueprint.

What? If they weren't so scared of being banned from the club, thus rendering their back pages pointless and cutting their readership in half, they'd probably be as critical as the rest of us. That's where the intelligence comes into play tbh. Lee Ryder might get on people's nerves but he's a bit more far-sighted than tits like Steve Wraith.

It's my honest opinion that this sort of action will just antagonise Ashley and make him even more determined to run the business on a purely profit basis. Nothing to be gained at this point by getting antsy.

Thank god they've got a bit more intelligence than the average fan.

Rotten timing. Could the imbeciles not have waited for four more weeks before wading in on Barton's side?