stalker

Word of warning, there've been many other geordie "fans" in charge of newcastle over the years, not many of them would be accused of putting the clubs best interests at heart. One you even mention in your post.

I don't know if it is, given the number of black footballers over the last 20 years there has been incredibly few black managers. I don't know if it's institutional racism or not but they are certainly under represented at managerial level

he's a complete media whore, I'm loving the number of times he's come out this summer to say hull are interested in signing so and so and nothing ever coming of it. Must be nice for any new signings to know they were actually only his 20th choice.

http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1754699,00.html Hughton is hopeless and makes himself sound like an idiot. To quote, "I think we're expecting a crowd of 30,000 plus on Saturday and that is terrific", There's nothing terrific about a 30k crowd in a 52k stadium. When was the last time we had a league attendance below 35k? Out on a limb here but probably the last time we played at this level? Assuming that we arent counting when the Gallowgate was being done. apparently 34,691 was our ave home attendance in 94/95 Nice try smartarse. Apparently you didnt read the second sentence of my post. Gallowgate work during that season sorry dude never really read your post tbh, I meant to quote stalker Ok tougher question, last time we were 40% below capacity?

Shearer was trying to sort out the mess that this idiot (and others) created. The place was mess when Kinnear took over as well. I don't want him either but if Ashley appoints him then you can see why he would. You can't see why he would. Anyone with any knowledge of football (or even sense) wouldn't go near the fucker. Therefore its quite obvious why ashley would

Mike has lost a lot of money and it's all his own fault, running the club shockingly badly and then gambling on the markets as well (rumours were he lost a fortune betting on foreign exchange, the man is a muppet). If kinnear comes back, thats the final straw, I just have to cut myself off from the club, no idea how I can do it but its that or a bottle of pills.

Please say he didnt say that, what an apologist twat

http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1754699,00.html Hughton is hopeless and makes himself sound like an idiot. To quote, "I think we're expecting a crowd of 30,000 plus on Saturday and that is terrific", There's nothing terrific about a 30k crowd in a 52k stadium. When was the last time we had a league attendance below 35k?

Damn these short-term loan deals eh? Beckham to Milan, Larsson to Man Utd...shocking. Bit different when your getting top class internationals instead of kids with little experience (although I realise simpson has a fair few games under his belt). I don't think he's a bad signing but we're replacing a team with a lot of experience with kids who'll have no attachment to the club as they can leave in january if things aren't going well.

When Krul proves he's better he'll play, until then we cant expect owt different How can he prove it?

The original point was(conveniently) deleted before that quote though. The person i actually responded to suggested selling pretty much everyone them Ashley taking £50m. The reality is totally different hence my point. Tell me would you buy tickets to watch our reserves when the vast majority of our first team were sold over a 12 month period? Our revenue would be dragged back down to the other teams levels if Ashley remained that long and sold so many. Think this raises an interesting point, which I have been thinking about for a while. The club is worth far more to a new buyer than it is to Ashley as he must know that season ticket sales will be far lower if he's in charge. This is why I can't understand how a deal is taking so long to complete, you would think the buyer and seller could easily find a point between the two values which is beneficial to both. Sadly I think Ashley has no clue of what it is worth and is just trying to claw ever penny he can out of it but will probably end up making nothing.

Any chance someone can paste the journal article in here, for some reason I haven't been able to access the journal webpage from work for the last few weeks

Can't see him forking out the big wages required to get some of the guys mentioned here. I don't even think he'll fork out for JK again. Know idea who'll be available for the pasty and the two packs of crisps he'll be offering as a contract.

Legend, RIP Glad he made his big game on the weekend

http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2009/07/newcastles-condition-remains-critical.html Newcastle's condition remains critical George Caulkin In terms of seismic levels of surprise, Tuesday morning’s ‘development’ that the Profitable Group has withdrawn its interest in purchasing Newcastle United is right up there with the following sensational breaking news story: Britain can be a bit rainy. This is not a setback and nor should it be a cause of particular anguish because, put brutally, you cannot withdraw from a race you have not entered. Which is not the same as saying that events at St James’ Park are running smoothly. While the sale of the club drags on, the start of the new season is now hurtling towards us - 11 days and counting - and we hardly need to trawl through that familiar, depressing list of concern. But for the sake of recent coma victims or the masochistic, here goes; an absentee owner, no manager, no buys, no sales, a 6-1 defeat at Leyton Orient. The position Newcastle find themselves in has barely shifted within the last fortnight and it is a desperate one. Negotiations with interested parties are ongoing, but the proximity of the Coca Cola Championship must surely serve to focus the minds of those involved. Soon we will be caught up in the maelstrom of matches and a transfer window which would be a crucial factor for any new custodians of the club will be nearing its conclusion. We know that the extent of Newcastle’s overdraft - which is said to stand at anywhere between £35m and £40m - has tangled matters and that advice given to Mike Ashley by Seymour Pierce, the bank charged with selling the club, to reduce it by selling some high-earning players has not yet been taken. We know that after a short break, Keith Harris, Seymour Pierce’s executive chairman, returns to his desk this week. It has been stated in this space previously that a useful rule of thumb during the whole takeover process has been to give least attention to the companies or bidders who make the most noise. There are reasons for that, from the very real presence of confidentiality agreements with preferred bidders, to the more general theory that serious candidates simply do not need to whip up publicity. From the start, the Profitable Group - and they have not been alone - have not been shy in announcing their intentions, yet it is understood that while they made contact with Seymour Pierce, they never provided the necessary guarantees proving they could afford Ashley’s £100m asking price. For that reason, they were not provided access to the data room in which Newcastle’s troubled finances were laid bare. It scarcely matters whether Profitable had ambitious ‘plans’ for Newcastle, whether they spoke to Alan Shearer about his prospective appointment as manager, because from the viewpoint of those involved in the sale, they were never viable, substantive candidates, which is why they have not been mentioned here. For whatever purpose (motive in this whole issue would be an interesting, separate debate - why the hell did Ashley buy Newcastle in the first place?), they have effectively added to the confusion and instability surrounding the club. Only one group of people have suffered from the debacle and it is the same group as always; the club’s supporters. From Ashley and Derek Llambias, Newcastle’s managing director, they have heard next to nothing, genuine bidders are unable or, at this stage, unwilling to comment publicly and those who have broken cover have merely contributed to an interminable farce. In the meantime and with no public face to quash them, rumours spread across Tyneside. Will Ashley cut his losses and seek to place Newcastle, with their crippling wage bill, into administration (something which is being discussed openly at the club’s training ground)? Will the banks demand that a portion of the club’s overdraft is repaid at the end of this month, obliging Ashley to either pour in more of his own money or take a more drastic step? How will it all end? Will it? Until something changes, Newcastle cannot hope to set their own agenda. Is a 6-1 hammering at Brisbane Road a bigger sign of decline than an earlier 7-2 victory at Darlington a suggestion of uplift? Is the fact that 25,000 season tickets have been sold an indication of draining support or, given the context, a remarkable demonstration of loyalty? For now, everything at St James’ Park is viewed within a prism of disillusion. The recent takeover of Southampton showed that from a position of apparent despair, redemption can follow very quickly. There are absolutely no guarantees that something similar will happen at Newcastle (and the longer the wait goes on, the less likely it must become), but, equally, it still could. At present, fans can do little other than cross their fingers and ignore all the froth. The arrival of Leeds United on Wednesday for a pre-season fixture that is unlikely to sit comfortably in the friendly categorically will be another moment of psychology. There are parallels between the clubs which those of a black and white persuasion will not wish to contemplate but probably should, because Newcastle have consistently demonstrated that things can always get worse. But the Profitable Group are not another symptom of it; they are an irrelevance.

Its not beyond doubt that writing off all his debt as a loss could be worth more against his tax liability than he is actually able to get for the club

Well if the daily mail is to be believed it will be administration as the club is worth more to ashley as a tax right off than a going concern.

Lets hope so, but don't forget he did the same during the last season, holding out for a ridiculous price then being forced to stay on.

Yes. Does he represent any of the players?

I am staggered to understand how anyone can think this, I hate Ashley as much as anyone but FFS get a grip Explain to me the reasons behind the decisions that a so-called successful businessman has taken with regards to the club, and then tell me why it's implausible? Well how can i speak for him? I havent even heard the bloke speak ffs. WWhatever he has done to us its almost comical that in a time his personal wealth is dwindling people think he is open to spunking £250m of whats left down the drain cos a few thousand football fans dont like him. But yeah lets run with the dea he is after revenge, that makes sense I can't really believe he's out for revenge, but then again it would explain a hell of a lot. Only thing is, if he ruins the club the bill for his security for the rest of his life is going to be extortionate, and even then he probably won't be safe.

Nufc.com seems to imply that Ashley is staying but is simply going to asset strip the squad, we're well and truly knackered, league one here we come.

I think that was in January

I look everyday for some guidance to this mystery. To think he turned down 200m last summer from the Man C owners!!! Sheeshh.... Maybe he saw the 3 nil win against Shamrock and thought, well, this team of kids will walk out of the championship with ease. Only problem is it'll be the wrong way.

IMO MA has tagged on the monies owed to him with some kind of staggered timetable. This complicates things as a swift return to the PL isn't guaranteed. The worry is if we don't get back first time it starts to get twice as hard financially and competitively. He might even have already sold the debt one, or used it as a security. If that's the case then administration may be more attractive to him. How do you mean? If he paid off the debt, using a loan from himself, he would then be able to use that loan as an asset.

IMO MA has tagged on the monies owed to him with some kind of staggered timetable. This complicates things as a swift return to the PL isn't guaranteed. The worry is if we don't get back first time it starts to get twice as hard financially and competitively. He might even have already sold the debt one, or used it as a security. If that's the case then administration may be more attractive to him.