Mick

I don't recall anyone saying signing players like Owen is what only shit clubs do. The signing of Owen was great for the club but so far its failed spectacularly, his injuries are just plain bad luck and nobody without the benefit of hindsight could have predicted what happened next, people talk about his signing as 'putting all our eggs in one basket' but that wasn't really the case as we bought Luque only days earlier, a signing that really does seem bizarre looking back at things. I think people question the wisdom of signing him now because of the financial loss that was announced, that could have been avoided though by not signing Luque. Again, that's me looking back in hindsight. Putting £16 million plus into the Owen signing was crazy with his injury record and was a case of putting all our eggs into one basket, Luque was brought into play left wing, a replacement for Robert. Owen was brought into play up front, Bellamy and Kluivert had left and Shearer was on his last legs, we put all of that money into replacing at least two players. People say that Owen was brought in to replace Shearer, if that's the case then our stupid club gets things done in the wrong order as Kluivert and Bellamy had actually left the club so needed replacing first.

Some people also said it was the wrong decision and pointed out that the club were putting all eggs into one basket and so it has been proven. Signing Owen has not been a brilliant signing so far.

No, it would appear that you think I have a problem when you mention it, just because you think I have a problem with it doesn't mean that it's true, at least not outside of your head. Inside your head you're getting messages that Shepherd is a good chairman, that makes all messages coming from inside your head void.

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I got the impression from you that it was all down to Ozzie.

It's loaded only if you think people want to slag the Board despite the Board doing what they want them to do. The Board has made mistakes, how many times does it have to be said and ignored, so slag them for that and for Fred calling Geordie women dogs, if that's what does it for you and you think it's bad for performances on the pitch. But don't slag them for doing what you want. It's a really very simple about the Board. What you won't accept is that if Souness had spent the £50m on that 5th placed squad properly we wouldn't be where we are now. Souness picked the players to come in and it was him who booted various players out he couldn't manage, while undermining their fee, all of which was supported by those moaning right now. The same people who slagged people like me for telling them it would go pear shaped. "No, we'll be better off", they said. The same people are now saying we'll be better off without the current Board. (Broken record alert...."and who appointed Souness?".....end of broken record alert). I'm sure you're not so stupid that you don't get the point, but probably like others all you really want to do is moan on and on and on and on and on............ I'm sure those members who have taken the trouble to respond properly aren't the type who will complain later. Which says it all. Souness did get rid of players, mainly Bellamy and Robert, but we all knew that was coming the day he was appointed, Shepherd must have known that, and he backed him while doing it and took a great deal of pleasure in letting us know that Shearer was, then wasn't, going to knock 10 bells out of one of Bellamy. Shepherd brought Souness in to sort out what was seen as a problem dressing room and Bellamy was one of the main problems and had to go according to some, Souness and Shepherd both seemed to share that view. Shepherd only backed down once he'd seen how we played and struggled without Bellamy. Shepherd was as much to blame for us giving Bellamy away as Souness was. what a stupid post. If Souness had wanted Bellamy to stay, he would have stayed. He wanted Dyer to stay so he was backed by his chairman , do you think Shepherd thought Dyer was a lovely lad ..... whatever Souness is, and he's a lot of things, but one thing he isn't is anybody's yes man. You can't read, can you? Where did I say that Souness wanted Bellamy to stay? Are you telling me that you didn't think Souness and Bellamy were heading for a collision as soon as Souness arrived, Dyer, Bellamy and Robert were all mentioned as being likely to fall out with Souness and most of the papers predicted the fall-outs that occurred although not how they would occur, I’m sure we both predicted what would happen. Souness didn't want Bellamy to stay because he wouldn't jump when told to, the same thing happened at Blackburn with a number of players, it's something that Souness did and was predicted. Dyer stayed because he buckled and didn't have the balls to try it on with Souness. If I could see what was going to happen and I'm sure you've also said that it was predictable then surely Shepherd must have expected it. Are you saying that Shepherd knew nothing about the history Souness brought to the club? My guess is that you do, you absolve Shepherd of any responsibility when appointing Souness, it's all the fault of Souness and the fans who were willing to give him a chance, once appointed.

Online and avoiding what? Why would I want to avoid your brothers thread? I assume you do mean me. All I'll say is that you can't answer the question at this time, things could be so bad by the time we reach January that we'll be selling while some of our players retain value because if we do go down we'll be selling in the bargain basement just to get the wages down. If you or your brother are interested then ask again in January and I'll consider answering it. PS I can't comment on something before I see it, unlike you who will see something and just avoid it because you don't want to answer it. Happy with that? Well, basically, you must be thinking we won't stay where we are or you would reply now. Which will probably piss you off mightily if you don't have grounds to continue being macbeths monkey .... glad you think that being in the bottom few positions for a few weeks is the same as spending decades in the same position or lower, what a fool. I'll be over the moon if we're not where we are, you'll try anything to discredit people who don't agree with you but it just makes you look even more stupid, hard to believe that anybody could think you were more stupid, I know. Great if we're only at the bottom for a few weeks but for now that's where we are so don't start bragging about getting out of it before it happens. stupid is think spending decades lower than we are at the moment, and selling our best players who all want to leave, especially staring at relegation to the 3rd division. Only KK bandwagon jumpers think like that. So you agree then.

It's loaded only if you think people want to slag the Board despite the Board doing what they want them to do. The Board has made mistakes, how many times does it have to be said and ignored, so slag them for that and for Fred calling Geordie women dogs, if that's what does it for you and you think it's bad for performances on the pitch. But don't slag them for doing what you want. It's a really very simple about the Board. What you won't accept is that if Souness had spent the £50m on that 5th placed squad properly we wouldn't be where we are now. Souness picked the players to come in and it was him who booted various players out he couldn't manage, while undermining their fee, all of which was supported by those moaning right now. The same people who slagged people like me for telling them it would go pear shaped. "No, we'll be better off", they said. The same people are now saying we'll be better off without the current Board. (Broken record alert...."and who appointed Souness?".....end of broken record alert). I'm sure you're not so stupid that you don't get the point, but probably like others all you really want to do is moan on and on and on and on and on............ I'm sure those members who have taken the trouble to respond properly aren't the type who will complain later. Which says it all. Souness did get rid of players, mainly Bellamy and Robert, but we all knew that was coming the day he was appointed, Shepherd must have known that, and he backed him while doing it and took a great deal of pleasure in letting us know that Shearer was, then wasn't, going to knock 10 bells out of one of Bellamy. Shepherd brought Souness in to sort out what was seen as a problem dressing room and Bellamy was one of the main problems and had to go according to some, Souness and Shepherd both seemed to share that view. Shepherd only backed down once he'd seen how we played and struggled without Bellamy. Shepherd was as much to blame for us giving Bellamy away as Souness was.

Online and avoiding what? Why would I want to avoid your brothers thread? I assume you do mean me. All I'll say is that you can't answer the question at this time, things could be so bad by the time we reach January that we'll be selling while some of our players retain value because if we do go down we'll be selling in the bargain basement just to get the wages down. If you or your brother are interested then ask again in January and I'll consider answering it. PS I can't comment on something before I see it, unlike you who will see something and just avoid it because you don't want to answer it. Happy with that? Well, basically, you must be thinking we won't stay where we are or you would reply now. Which will probably piss you off mightily if you don't have grounds to continue being macbeths monkey .... glad you think that being in the bottom few positions for a few weeks is the same as spending decades in the same position or lower, what a fool. I'll be over the moon if we're not where we are, you'll try anything to discredit people who don't agree with you but it just makes you look even more stupid, hard to believe that anybody could think you were more stupid, I know. Great if we're only at the bottom for a few weeks but for now that's where we are so don't start bragging about getting out of it before it happens.

"The long term supporter Mick" never said that "standing on the brink of the 3rd division after 30 years of selling your best players, is better than the current one." But it's fact in your head so it must be. eeerrrr....you have said the old board is no different and no worse than the current board, correct ? bump I've said Shepherd is no betther than our old chairman, prove me wrong. How many of them had us 17 places below where we were when they took over? How many of them reported a £12 million loss for one season? How many of them had us carrying something like £100 million of debt? but....I don't see our current board bottom of the 2nd division.....but I don't see our board selling locally born England players who want to leave the club ..... you as a - cough cough - long term supporter should realise this too ... long term supporters like you - cough cough - should also know that the current position we are in was considered successful..... So, why did Cox, Lee, Waddle, Beardsley, Gazza, Robson all want to leave the club...while Shearer didn't .... this is to astute for you isn't it, you are looking at the wrong books .... Why bump something then avoiding questions that come in response? You're a total hypocrite, amongst other things. bump

"The long term supporter Mick" never said that "standing on the brink of the 3rd division after 30 years of selling your best players, is better than the current one." But it's fact in your head so it must be. eeerrrr....you have said the old board is no different and no worse than the current board, correct ? bump I've said Shepherd is no betther than our old chairman, prove me wrong. How many of them had us 17 places below where we were when they took over? How many of them reported a £12 million loss for one season? How many of them had us carrying something like £100 million of debt? but....I don't see our current board bottom of the 2nd division.....but I don't see our board selling locally born England players who want to leave the club ..... you as a - cough cough - long term supporter should realise this too ... long term supporters like you - cough cough - should also know that the current position we are in was considered successful..... So, why did Cox, Lee, Waddle, Beardsley, Gazza, Robson all want to leave the club...while Shearer didn't .... this is to astute for you isn't it, you are looking at the wrong books .... Why bump something then avoiding questions that come in response? You're a total hypocrite, amongst other things.

The voice in his head tells him it's true. bluebiggrin.gif

Online and avoiding what? Why would I want to avoid your brothers thread? I assume you do mean me. All I'll say is that you can't answer the question at this time, things could be so bad by the time we reach January that we'll be selling while some of our players retain value because if we do go down we'll be selling in the bargain basement just to get the wages down. If you or your brother are interested then ask again in January and I'll consider answering it. PS I can't comment on something before I see it, unlike you who will see something and just avoid it because you don't want to answer it. Happy with that?

"The long term supporter Mick" never said that "standing on the brink of the 3rd division after 30 years of selling your best players, is better than the current one." But it's fact in your head so it must be. eeerrrr....you have said the old board is no different and no worse than the current board, correct ? bump I've said Shepherd is no betther than our old chairman, prove me wrong. How many of them had us 17 places below where we were when they took over? How many of them reported a £12 million loss for one season? How many of them had us carrying something like £100 million of debt?

blueyes.gif In the cups I can live with the despair, it's the hope I can't stand. I'd rather we won in the league just now, never mind last night, we've got to win at City. Can't help thinking Roeder's been given till xmas to turn it around otherwise he's out regardless of results in the cups. That's surely the case. To be replaced by??? There's no need to worry about that man, we'll be ASTOUNDED at the top quality names queuing up to manage us bluebiggrin.gif Then we'll all get it wrong by texting and e-mailling Shepherd to tell him that we want Tery Mac.

Fighting his way TO Byker from Cumbria, fact.

"The long term supporter Mick" never said that "standing on the brink of the 3rd division after 30 years of selling your best players, is better than the current one." But it's fact in your head so it must be.

-18 league places, £ millions of debt. I wouldn't expect you to take notice, at least not on here. bluebiggrin.gif but are you prepared to bet it won't last for decades ? Like you say you were happy with before If things go the way they are going now then it will not be Newcastle United FC we're supporting, it will be Newcastle United 2007 or something like that.

not really. Just showing you how dumb and stupid you look when you post that shite rather than join in with the discussion like someone with something worth saying, whether people agree with you or not. I did "join in with the discussion", I was talking to T27, and he said I won the argument. Next please! I'm not arsed son. You posted it and edited peoples posts, you're just an idiot More double standards.

No, he was genuinely correcting your error.

All of the above is FACT, at least in the head of one person.

I'll admit it for him, he got it wrong. It's your turn now, what do you think of Shepherd as chairman?

-18 league places, £ millions of debt. I wouldn't expect you to take notice, at least not on here. bluebiggrin.gif

Shepherd wasn't chairman in 1992, why do you keep using Sir John as a way of talking up Shepherd? I think I know, it's because Shepherd hasn't done anything in his time to talk up. The fact that a shit chairman like Ellis has finished above Shepherd more times than not just goes to show exactly what Shepherd is, Ellis did is for less money and you held that against him.