Kitman

Isn' t that JK Rowling? http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/D20041001/1500_938041328_jk_H172630_L.jpg

Certainly if Leeds are back in the top 6 of the Prem under Shepherd, it'll prove he's a better chairman than I've thought in the past. Now there's no Halls to hold him back, he'll be able to run Leeds just how he wants

Presumably the operations of the club will have been bought off the old company by the new owners, leaving the £35m debt behind to be written off when the old company is liquidated

I think Souness would be perfect for Leeds

Has to be played to a conclusion on the night

The author's being deliberately provocative to get attention. Mission accomplished.

ALL internet sites/fori (thats the plural). No it's not. The plural is fora.

Top post imo until the club wins something, every regime is going to be judged a failure to a certain extent. And winning things is bloody difficult. If we consistently challenge I'll be happy, sooner or later then we'll get lucky. With Souness and Roeder (post caretaker role) I only ever felt we'd head in one direction with them.

A compelling case for performance related pay I would say. He has no incentive to shift his fat arse off the massage table, he must know he has little chance of getting a game anymore

Finished for us? He never started!

Sold him. Do we know how much for? A handful of magic beans I expect

He's no Glenn Roeder

I think of him as a sort of crash test dummy.......he's there for the physios and therapists to work on when everyone else is fit As a footballer he's about as much use as a cock flavoured lolly.....I've developed the same sort of hate complex about him and Carr as I had about Des Hamilton and Marcelino.....the only good thing about him being injured is that he's not playing

Not a proper player. None of those fancy dan southern poofs for our team thank you very much Not that there's a cat in hell's chance he'd join us, but there you go........

ooh bay-beye bay-beye

I take no pleasure in Dyer's injury but you could see it coming....it's the story of his career. Can't help but feel we did the right thing in selling him. He'll be 29 by the time he's back and his best years might be behind him, and they didn't add up to much.

No

Conclusive proof (if any were needed after last season) that Carr is incapable of anything other than a bit part role as a squad player. Together with Babayaro we must have had the most injury prone full backs in the league last season. The writing must surely be on the wall now for Fatty Carr and Baba the Sheepheart?

I fancy us to win this one....Boro have a lot of injuries at the back and Aladiere upfront.

I guess it's the difference between hope and expectation. Every season I hope we'll win something, but I don't expect us to. Maybe if I supported Man Utd or Chelsea I'd expect it. FWIW I think we're heading in the right direction, I think SA is cannily rebuilding the squad, so I don't see this as a wasted season waiting to happen at all. Maybe after the January transfer window would be a better time to start complaining. Anyone writing off the season before it's begun should really expect to get shot at imo.

Would like you to expand on that if poss. I would have said that if anything we have smaller numbers than even last years swiss cheese squad by my reckoning, and that didn't hold up to much scrutiny once the inevitable (yes, even for the magic healing hands of Sam) injuries kick in. Maybe an increase in general quality and the ability of a few players to 'do a job' in a few positions counts for something, but the paucity of numbers should not be ignored. So far, not counting the (it seems) inevitable departure of Luque, we are 4 players down on last season available to us in terms of experienced players, and 6 if you include the likes of Gate and Shanks. That rwill emain a concern (and that is all it is) until some bright spark fromn the academy hits the first team, or the shortfalls are addressed. That, is the point I take fromm BB's post. Hardly something to get hot under the collar about, or in the case of Chez and others to become hateful little trolls about. Supporters will always want more quality/quantity or whatever. At the same time it is a bit lax not taking into consideration the advances we are clearly beginning to make and are planning to make all over the club. As I have said many times, there are a lot of positives and we all have our fingers crossed. If Sam is not sacked (and that is basically what it hinges on, otherwise we are possibly back to square one next season), and if we get through this year intact trophy or not, then we will hopefully be able to say this season is not a waste and the club is more stable and able to continue to progress under the new team. But that is not what BB focused on. His concern was simply whether this squad we currently have is good enough to get us material success this current season, not some 'maybe in a few years down the line success', and in his opinion it is not. I hope he is wrong, and more than anything hope it doesn't really matter as long as we have the right things in place to get there eventually, but I don't see the big deal in bringing those concerns to the table. Depends what you and the OP call material success. Personally I think it's unreasonable with new owners, a new manager, a load of new players and a new set up to expect anything other than a bit of progress on the pitch and a better standing in the table in the first season under SA. Especially against the backdrop of clubs with a lot more money to spend from Sky and wealthy new owners, plus we're not in Europe. However there seem to be fans out there who expect a lot more and define a wasted season as not winning anything. Well welcome to the last 37 years. If Shepherd taught us anything, it's that throwing money at high profile signings to please the fans got us absolutely nowhere. Granted our squad needs improvement, at right back above all imo, but Rome wasn't built in a day and Big Sam isn't a miracle worker, he inherited a shit tip from Roeder. I can understand how Chez feels because there are plenty of people out there who build well rounded expensive squads on FM and expect the Toon to do the same. Cos it's easy, isn't it? Anyone expecting a sudden transformation into the next Chelsea needs their head looking at. Nobody has that sort of money and unless and until we become more successful and glamorous, we won't be able to attract the sort of players for every position that people want. It's a long term project and it's also a tad naive to expect someone to come in and pump in squillions into a debt ridden club whose wage bill and spending has been out of control. That doesn't mean we won't get substantial investment in the longer term, it's just there may not be instant gratification. Writing off the season after 2 games isn't too clever as far as I'm concerned (haven't read through the thread so apologies to the OP if that's not his point). People should have a bit of patience imo. Personally I want to see improvement, progress, a sense of direction, steady investment......I don't expect us to become world beaters overnight.

Spot on. Trust is irrelevant and makes no difference whatsoever

Carr must be feeling like the last Turkey in the farmyard at Christmas time now! He's still got Wor Celestine beating him to that mantle, unfortunately. If the players were turkeys he'd still be my first pick for Christmas lunch, mind. Especially now Titus has gone. Do you know, I'd forgotten that Baba's even on our books, he's that much of a non-entity. If he was a horse they'd have shot him by now and turned him into Pedigree Chum. They wouldn't do the same with Carr as he'd jam the mincing machine

Carr must be feeling like the last Turkey in the farmyard at Christmas time now!

The pathetic feigning of injuries by some foreign players doesn't help....it makes things seem a lot worse than they are. They could learn a thing or two from Bert Trautmann this lot.