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Good addition if it goes through. It wil also give us a clear run to the end of the transfer window, to tie up one last deal. Hopefully Belletti.

Two seperate issues. Owen- Happy enough because he DESPERATELY needs games to get his match sharpness back, especially when he thrives on sharpness. As people say if he gets injured, he probably would have done for us anyway. Smith- Will be interesting to see what he can do alongside one of our other players in attack. Doesn't so much need the fitness but confidence infront of goal. Isn't really injury prone so i would expect to see him get injured or two tired for Boro. More importantly i hope Taylor doesn't get injured, that would be a major blow. Great experiance fo the lad though.

£3m or even £4m wouldn't be silly money for Faye, given the prices gone for various other nationwide signings over the summer. If we're complaining about a £2m asking price then it's a bit odd. Disagree mate, 4m is too much for Faye. Obviously i think haggling over a little difference is ridiculas but if we value him at 2 and them at 4 i say we stick to our guns. I wouldn't pay more than we did for Rozehnal put it that way. Well no... you said initially that we shouldn't cave in and pay silly money. They value him at £2m (not four), which isn't silly money. All i was doing with the £4m thing, was just trying to prove that the £2m price-tag is a very pleasing one... I didn't realise they valued him at 2m, i just assumed that is papers guesssing. Which TBF is more likely. For 2m i would sign him but i still believe in getting the best price possible for what is effectively a squad player in my eyes.

Based on what? Let me guess - based on you choosing to believe THAT story in the press. Based on this I think: http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/thanksandfurtherclarification.html "To further clarify the situation - the Club wishes to make it clear and unequivocal that no individual was or has been offered the position of manager/coach at this Club whilst that position has been held by Martin Jol. It is wholly inaccurate and inappropriate to suggest otherwise" yes, and where is the proof anyone was?? Suppose the proof will be when Spurs sue Ramos for his comemnts of receiving a 'dizzying' offer from them, when they stress they wouldn't and haven't offered the managers job to anyone whilst Jol is still there. Does that mean Allardyce is a crook then because he didn't sue the BBC? Probably...... but he's our crook.

Based on what? Let me guess - based on you choosing to believe THAT story in the press. Based on this I think: http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/thanksandfurtherclarification.html "To further clarify the situation - the Club wishes to make it clear and unequivocal that no individual was or has been offered the position of manager/coach at this Club whilst that position has been held by Martin Jol. It is wholly inaccurate and inappropriate to suggest otherwise" yes, and where is the proof anyone was?? Well who do you believe Spurs or Ramos? Ramos is hardly going to make stuff like that up if he wants to stay at Seville. Where as i believe Spurs offered him the job and where knocked back and then chose to deny it.

£3m or even £4m wouldn't be silly money for Faye, given the prices gone for various other nationwide signings over the summer. If we're complaining about a £2m asking price then it's a bit odd. Disagree mate, 4m is too much for Faye. Obviously i think haggling over a little difference is ridiculas but if we value him at 2 and them at 4 i say we stick to our guns. I wouldn't pay more than we did for Rozehnal put it that way.

Which is even more reason why we shouldn't just give in and pay silly money.

So now Spurs are liars. Kingdawson and Martin Jol mysteriously disapeared?

Do we need him, no. But that doesn't mean to say we could have him as back up to Butt etc. He is a good player and definatley a Sam type.

Away: Given Taylor Rozehnal Cacapa Enrique Geremi Smith Barton Milner Viduka N'Zogbia Home: Given Belletti Taylor Rozehnal Enrique Barton Emre Milner N'Zogbia Martins Owen

I think Barca would far prefer to sell him to us though and Deco might fancy our league. Don't see it happening personally.

I'd have your 442 but feel as though Owen would be included.

I believe a good 3 man midfield consists of three types of player: 1. Defensive midfielder (protection of the back four and a good tackler) 2. Box to Box midfielder (with a good engine and the abilty to pass) 3. Attacking midfielder (plain and simply, assists and goals) Successfull 3 man midfields down the years: Chelsea- Makelele, Thiago, Lampard, Milan- Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf If we are going to choose our players it should be by this blueprint, even if not perfect, it isn't far off.

Have you even seen them play? Both still need to adapt, even if we get Belletti. Honestly? I've seen Belletti on telly a couple of times and thats about it. However, sadly most of us still have to rely upon reputation and the opinion of those who have seen them play. So far Allardyces signings have been great and i'd hazard a guess to say they these two would not disapoint. Fingers crossed Allardyce has done his research and know the ins and outs.

Thanks Janitor!

I noticed against Blue Star that he was very good technically. He looks quite short but i bet he can put his weight about. Interesting selection choice for Boro.

Aye, he's a funny one. I far rather have a pint with him than Dyer, despite the obvious risks.

Depends what he is pleading guilty for and TBH skirge none of us no the facts about what happened. They could be charging him for GBH when if fact Barton and his lawyers can prove it was just ABH. Which is a different kettle of fish all together. His people must think they have a good chance of getting off.

Agreed, but we were mostly solid during games last season and the season before. It was the occasional lapses in concentration that hurt us, and the free header or quick breaks through the middle on Saturday were no different in that respect. The quote from the article is a bit neejerk insofar as lady luck was on our side a few times. Our midfield protected the back four better (I wonder what the fan reaction would have been to Roeder playing three defensive midfielders mind), but the back four itself looked a bit shaky and if Villa would have scored from one of our concentration lapses nobody would have said progress had been made defensively or we currently have strong foundations at the back. Still, a clean sheet is a clean sheet and a point is a point. I just wanted to point out that I don't think the "we would have lost this match last season" necessarily holds true as Aston Villa clearly didn't have their shooting boots on.. Solid in previous seasons? We looked shakey as fuck.

and he will hit the fine back in the face.

We all know that if he goes down he will be hit with a huge fine.

If your trying tell me that Emre isn't good technically then your off your head. Apart from Nobby noone in a our squad has the abilty on the ball that Emre does. Can't argue on the consistancy side though, spot on. However, i think Allardyce's set up would suit him better and he would have extra fitness and motivation. I don't think he's that great techniclaly. At set pieces he was predominantly poor, and he never created as much as some performances hinted at. I'm not saying he's s****, just that he's a decent player, no more. I think Emre is so gifted it's untrue. He just never seems to find any consistance in his games, especially set pieces. I honestly believe that if Allardyce can get the right combination of that midfield at home we are in for big things. Emre has the abilty to be apart of it.

I think a certain Man City fan is getting big for his boots. What will they be saying when Sven gets caught shagging Micah Richards mam in the club showers.

Doesn't do any harm to have another option though. Probably why Sam bought Djorkiouff tbh. Major woosh.

My guess is Reyna.