Stevie

Who would you rate as the best ten English players of the last 25 years (for your own reasons, nobody is right or wrong) 1. Peter Beardsley 2. Alan Shearer 3. Paul Scholes 4. Steven Gerrard 5. Paul Gascoigne 6. Bryan Robson 7. Chris Waddle 8. John Barnes 9. Tony Adams 10.David Beckham

Stuart Ripley, one good season at Boro, the odd decent cross at Blackburn, but in effect shite. People will remember him for that brilliant baal against Man Utd at Ewood for Shearer in 93/94, but there's people on this board with more technique than him, there really is. Delima will be up in arms. Colin Pascoe came in for the mackems as the new Alan Ball, in effect though he was more like Bobby Ball. Who else? Sheedy was shite for us, I don't care what no cunt says, he got away with it at Everton when football was at it's lowest ebb, a decent left foot rendered you class in the mid-80's. Mayve that's harsh but he was shite when he came here. Seen his first goal for the toon at Grimsby. Paul Stephenson, he never made the most of what he had. fuck it can't be arsed racking me brains noo.

It would be like being married to Kelly Brook and then she died, but you never get over it, especially when the people wanting to shag you are mingin, and it would feel like cheating anyway. That's my take on this ridiculous hypothetical situation.

Ipswich 2007 are better than Newcastle 1991. what about 1993? Ipswich were s**** in 1993, they'd sold their star player errr Jason Dozzell, and were on the road to nowhere, we on the other hand were awesome. The point was, if Rebellious, who seems a good lad, and what a fuckin car he's got, doesn't want to watch Ipswich cos Championship football is s****, what will he do if we're ever back to 1991 levels?

This thread is boring as fuck.

*waits for the funny bit (could have a long wait)

Ipswich 2007 are better than Newcastle 1991.

Rarely has a kid had more time on his hands than you. If the toon folded tomorrow, there'd be a replacement club, we'd be fast tracked to the Conference, and maybe even higher Fiorentina style. If the toon was nuked and I was on holiday at the time, I don't think I'd support another team, I'd probably top mesel.

I always picture people hanging out of cars and tooting horns, people running naked across city centre streets. It'll never happen though. If it's any consolation going to Wembley with my dad to see us beat the mancs in the final is still one of my best ever days Aye, well I'm not arsed about Everton, but that day I wanted Manchester United to win the Cup Final, you see what made it even worse was, if Man Utd had've won they'd have went in to CWC, therefore freeing up a UEFA Cup berth for the 6th placed toon. Whatever happened to that c*** that hit the bar? Joe Parkinson, aye that's him, sort of defensive midfielder. The last time I cried over football was probably England v Germany at Euro 96. I'm hardened to disappointment now, I expect the toon to f*** up, because they always do, so I'm never as disappointed these days. Pisses you off when you think fans of sides like Chelsea and Man Utd don't appreciate the winning anywhere near as much as we would. Parkinson got a terrible injury that he never recovered from about a year or so later and eventually retired in '99. It was a shame because he was a good little player and tough as nails. Was tipped for an England call up around the time he got injured. The club gave him a cushy job for a couple of years but he's stopped doing that now. Him and his kid have a season ticket at Goodison I remember him being a hard player like.

KEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGAN, KEEEEEEEEEEGAN, KEEEEEEEEEEGAN I tell you what pisses me off about this messageboard more than anything, it's the lack of respect some people, particularly younger posters, have for Keegan. Keegan is still king in my eyes, fuck his lack of tactical awareness, they were magical days to be a toon fan.

If it's any consolation going to Wembley with my dad to see us beat the mancs in the final is still one of my best ever days Aye, well I'm not arsed about Everton, but that day I wanted Manchester United to win the Cup Final, you see what made it even worse was, if Man Utd had've won they'd have went in to CWC, therefore freeing up a UEFA Cup berth for the 6th placed toon. Whatever happened to that cunt that hit the bar? Joe Parkinson, aye that's him, sort of defensive midfielder. The last time I cried over football was probably England v Germany at Euro 96. I'm hardened to disappointment now, I expect the toon to fuck up, because they always do, so I'm never as disappointed these days. Pisses you off when you think fans of sides like Chelsea and Man Utd don't appreciate the winning anywhere near as much as we would.

Many, many times. The worst time ever, and I worse than any lass, was when Everton put us out the FA Cup QF's in 1995. I really took it to heart, I really felt we were going to win the Cup, and all season I pictured myself walking up Wembley Way. I was only 17, and I'd been to the pub with me dad, and I was mortal really, but I was unconsolable. I cried non stop for about 25 minutes, shaking, everything. What made it worse was Ruel Fox missed a sitter in the last minute.

We're wasting time I think. It's clear to me we'll never achieve any thing with Glenn as manager, next season will be similarly shite, we'll still get the crowds, and nothing will hace changed other than him getting sacked. Shepherd should do it now, while he can. Break the bank to get a top, top coach. I'd take Capello me, when he gets sacked at Real at the end of the season, £5m a year in his bank and the chance of a challenge in the Premiership could be enough for him.

This is a top post and basically reiterates the views of North East based toon fans. Why only them? Views of people like Vic, and others who are new to Newcastle United and there are many, I've spoken to in the past, can't grasp what a big club we are, and how big we could be. Living in Newcastle when we were good was incredible. The whole city was literally buzzing, we could've sold the ground out two or three times over, there's only Man Utd in this country who could do the same.

I was at that game, 2-0 up after 20 minutes, raped for the rest. A brilliant game I forgot about was Everton 4 Liverpool 4, Beardsley scored a beauty and Dalglish chucked it after the game.

This is a top post and basically reiterates the views of North East based toon fans. The most loyal fans in the world are supposed to be Man City, where are they now? Drifting away that's where. In the main we're no better than them, yet for the seventh consequtive season will average over 50,000. There's no c***, NO c*** in the world who could say that they'd get the same in our predicament/lack of success. A Champions League run, top four finish would easily see at the very minimum 30,000 extra JCL's want to come back to SJP. Wenger knows we could threaten the lot of them if we could only get it right, the basic infrastructure is geared for success, it's just a shame it probably won't happen till the club is taken over. We're a much bigger club than Tottenham and Aston Villa, we can't afford another s*** season though, I think next year is make or break.

I was at both games Athletic, and the treatment we got in Bilbao was the best I've ever experienced off any group of supporters ever. A lot of English people have too many preconceptions about Spanish people, but the people in Bilbao aren't like other Spanish people I've seen. We couldn't buy a drink on the day in Bilbao, sangria was flowing, what a day, I think it coincided with some special day for Basques because nobody seemed to be at work. I swapped my toon shirt for a rare greenish colour Bilbao third kit which they weren't allowed to wear in La Liga because, ETA was woven in to the body of the shirt. The stadium itself was great, we were right at the back and there were other toon fans on the other side, but where we were it seemed like it was so steep if you stepped forward you'd fall on the pitch. As for the games themselves, we should've been comfortably through when we were 3-0 up, but our European naivety cost us. In the return it was a cagey game, I thought Beardsley was going to equalise in the last minute, but it wasn't to be. One of the best atmosphere's I've ever seen in my life though, seeing 50,000 people singing ole ole ole jumping up and down takes some beating. Since that day, I've always looked for Athletic's results. VIVA EUSKARDI

Yes but 2-3,000 of them were PSV fans.

They're better than you lot. Stop crying. showed more fight than we did tbf Correct. You didn't have Newcastle fans blaming the ref for the result though. In general, we accepted that Alkmaar had been the better team over the two legs. Stop being a complete clown. If you watched both our games you would see that the refs were a complete joke and that ultimately cost us at the end, no matter how good Sevilla played in the first half. Any NEUTRAL would agree. Give over man, Sevilla were better. Alkmaar were the first competent team NUFC played in the UEFA cup and we were undone, likewise with Spurs. Undone by opposistion technically very good and capable of scoring goals. They were better in the 1st half and that was it. they were a complete joke in the 1st leg until the dodgy ref from Luxemborg gave them a ridiculous penalty that didnt even look remotly like a penalty. He then decided to invent the new "drop ball" rule which basically was 'if a team kick it out for a clear corner, instead of giving the corner to the opposition he will instead call 2 players from opposite teams to contest a drop-ball'. You lost, get on with it. Sevilla went 4-1 up on aggeregate, they didn't need to chase the game, and apart from two lucky bounces of the ball were really quite comfortable. You're out beaten by a different class side to yourselves, stop the small time mentality, you're not got enough, deal with it. When we go out, we have an inquest about why we're so s***, no recriminations about referees or bad luck. We could say we'd have beaten AZ if the ref didn't give that ridiculous penalty, but we don't because we were beaten by a better side in Holland, as you were tonight. The stats show that we had more shots on target, more shots of target, So you should, you were the home team, and most of those shots were like Jenas' free kick which probably made the upper tier of your tiny hovel. If Kerhakov had his shooting boots on you should've been 0-4 or 0-5 down at half time.

and what? Unsold seats in a UEFA Champions League Quarter Final when you have a small ground to start with. Astonishing really. Ticket office problems etc...etc...

Liverpool 3 Tottenham Hotspur 0 Attendance: 44,330 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/5351884.stm

They're better than you lot. Stop crying. showed more fight than we did tbf Correct. You didn't have Newcastle fans blaming the ref for the result though. In general, we accepted that Alkmaar had been the better team over the two legs. Stop being a complete clown. If you watched both our games you would see that the refs were a complete joke and that ultimately cost us at the end, no matter how good Sevilla played in the first half. Any NEUTRAL would agree. Give over man, Sevilla were better. Alkmaar were the first competent team NUFC played in the UEFA cup and we were undone, likewise with Spurs. Undone by opposistion technically very good and capable of scoring goals. They were better in the 1st half and that was it. they were a complete joke in the 1st leg until the dodgy ref from Luxemborg gave them a ridiculous penalty that didnt even look remotly like a penalty. He then decided to invent the new "drop ball" rule which basically was 'if a team kick it out for a clear corner, instead of giving the corner to the opposition he will instead call 2 players from opposite teams to contest a drop-ball'. You lost, get on with it. Sevilla went 4-1 up on aggeregate, they didn't need to chase the game, and apart from two lucky bounces of the ball were really quite comfortable. You're out beaten by a different class side to yourselves, stop the small time mentality, you're not got enough, deal with it. When we go out, we have an inquest about why we're so shit, no recriminations about referees or bad luck. We could say we'd have beaten AZ if the ref didn't give that ridiculous penalty, but we don't because we were beaten by a better side in Holland, as you were tonight.

Was surprised you couldn't sell out a last 8 game in the world's number one club competition. Haha nice one lad. What's nice about it "lad?" Would've thought a MAASSIVE club like you could shift 41,000 tickets for Liverpool's most important game in nearly two years. I agree totally.Madness really isn't it? Disgraceful infact. I just don't think we deserve to win the trophy after that. I agree, it is disgraceful.

Aye, at Wembley. 2-2 draw, culminating in a brilliant diving header by Johnny Bosman, ye gan back nearly 20 year there.

People walking around in 110 degree heat. That game was obviously a classic, but there used to be a song on Fantasy Football League that went "Old football was crap, Old football was crap, Old football was crap, Old football was crap, Old football was crap etc...." I've watched the 1966 World Cup Final in full, players made mistakes in that game that would be unacceptable in the Conference now. That memorable goal by Carlos Alberto wouldn't have even been conceded by a back four of Carr Bramble Ramage and Huntingdon now. That may or may not be so, but it's one of my favourite goals of all time. Love watching it. I think it is probably the most perfect piece of football ever, it really does make the hair on the back of my neck stand up every time I see it. Especially when you watch the whole build up. If anyone wants to know why football is the beautiful game, point them at that goal. Carlos Alberto talks through it here: (apols to mods and please delete if youtube link not allowed) I think Argentina's goal against Serbia by Cambiasso was far far better, the best example I've seen of a goal being scored by a patient build up and movement off the ball. I think that was a stunning goal, but the thing I like about the Carlos Alberto goal is that it just had so much nonchalant swagger about it. And the way Pele hardly even bothers to look before flicking it out to his right, he just knows *precisely* where his man is going to be. You think the pressure on the ball would be the same now? I've scored better goals on Sensible Soccer.