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Yeah, the same "aura" that got them knocked down to Serie B. Fucking horrible club. Should have been down to Serie C and deducted more than fucking 15 points or whatever it was.

There was definitely something dodgy about the referee in that game. Cagliari played well but of course, Juve are now on 6 points. They seem to have this aura about them that scares the opposition team and the officials.

Some dodgy refereeing there

That's bull, tbh. If we signed Ronaldinho would people be calling for him to be dropped if he had a bad game? And with a keeper it'd be even worse, playing one bad game and getting dropped would make them lose total confidence. Given is our number 1, and by far the better keeper. If he's fit, he plays. Totally agree blueyes.gif

Schmeichel is so dodgy on crosses and corners.

Arsenal have dominated the last 10 mins.

Nugent's not cut out for the Premiership. His football brain is too slow.

Benni Mc 1-0 Blackburn lead.

maybe it's because of the red card? Either way, come on Pompey.

3-0 then 3-1 Flukey shit from Kanu. Quick thinking from Fabregas gave them a 3-0 lead. What a special talent he is.

Even though I thought and still think Chelsea will win it, I think a few people are underrating Manyoo. They'll be the force they were last season when Rooney and Ronaldo returns. I just think a 5 point gap is enough of a head start for a Chelsea team showing the ruthlessness they showed a few seasons ago.

Funniest thing is he's had 43 caps already.

Yep Derby are terrible. We'll give them a roasting if their defence is as shit as it was yesterday. Torres missed a couple of chances (as usual) and they still won 6-0!! As long as we put pressure on the Derby defence, they'll crack.

IIRC Owen stopped (voluntarily) taking penalties for Liverpool after he missed a couple in a row. Since then I don't think he's been the designated penalty taker for the teams he's played for. Milner's a good shout, so is Shola though obviously Shola's going to be on the bench more often than not. Geremi seems the calm composed type who could slot home a penalty in the dying minutes so he'd actually be my pick.

A suggestion for the January transfer window. He's a creative midfielder proven at the highest level, was a key player in a title winning team and is really unselfish, something of a pre-requisite for creative midfielders. Saw him play yesterday and he's still as bubbly as he was when he played for Valencia. Still a key player for his team and would transform the way we attack (especially in a 4-3-3). He's got pace, loves to support the attack and has nifty feet, very suited to the PL imo. He's also just entering his peak and wouldn't cost as much as someone like Deco who's also a few years older than him. Pablo Aimar anyone?

Parky, this 'style' was only used for the first time in the league (from the start) yesterday. And we played well. We created chances. It's irrelevant comparing yesterday's game to the Bolton or Villa game because we're not playing the same formation. I wholeheartedly agree with you that we lack creativity when we're playing 4-3-3 but honestly, yesterday, we created plenty of chances and should have won at a canter. Hopefully Sam sticks to 4-4-2 because it's obvious that we're playing to our strengths (Milner's more effective, Owen's nearer to the goal, Viduka has more support etc.).

This is an agenda worth pursuing.

I'm sure Parky will be able to tell you.

People moaning about the tactics? We won ffs. Moan when his tactics cost us points. Most would have taken a win before the game and that's what we got, no need to moan when we (and Allardyce) got what was needed. On another day it might have been a draw but on another day we could have scored 6. We won. End of.

That passes as creativity around here apparently. It is sometimes an education to glance over these pages..... Real creativity ends up in goals and I don't count hitting a lot of balls into the danger area and having a swing at it as creativity. Sorry. God bless and all. If creating a half dozen clear-cut chances isn't creativity then fuck me we don't need this 'creativity' you're on about. Owen should have had a hat-trick, Butt had two clear chances, one which he passed and the other one blazed over. Ameobi also had a one on one which he missed, Milner could have done better with a half-volley in the penalty area and Taylor hit the bar. We created a fuck load of chances but it just didn't go in. There's not a problem with creating chances, at least there wasn't in this particular game. Maybe you should have really watched the game instead of trying to perpetuate your agenda regarding the creative midfielder? We were good everywhere today. Defense, attack and midfield. We dominated and battered them and only a fool would say 1-0 was a 'just' result.

:lol: you may have a point

We should stick with the 4-4-2. We've shown that we're better playing this formation. Viduka's more involved, the formation suits Owen, Milner and Zoggy become more effective and there's a variety to our attacking play which is non-existent when we play 4-3-3. In time, the players might be trained into being good with the 4-3-3 but for now, we have to stick to the 4-4-2.

He USED TO, yes. I am sure at 28 years old its not completely out of the question that he could still do a job there. Agreed, but I think he's changed his game a lot since then and would be pretty much wasted there now. The fact that we played Smith there today with Geremi in the middle speaks volumes. I reckon it speaks volumes about Geremi's influence that Allardyce would stick Smith out in a position he's clearly incapable of being effective in. Zoggy - Butt - Barton - Geremi Anyone? If Milner's injured of course. Reckon that would be a cracking midfield. Hard to break down, industrious and having a creative/attacking spark.

Should be against this lot with 10 men tbh. Otherwise I would be worried. Big plus for me was how stuck at it and the players were very positive on the ball and looking up all the time. Worried by the lack of a genuine creative player/hub. We nearly didn't break them down today and we will struggle against better sides to make chances. But not bothered at the moment and happy with the points. We didn't break them down? We had 3 clear-cut 'should have been a goal' chances in the first half and plenty more in the second when they decided to defend with 10 men. We're just not finishing well atm, which is down to our strikers not being sharp enough. There's no problem with a lack of chances being created. 18 shots today, doesn't really scream LACK OF CREATIVITY to me. Plus we still are waiting for our "creative" midfielders to play. Exactly. We don't need Ronaldinho to break down the likes of Wigan, Derby, Boro etc. We created a fuckload of chances today and anyone who says we shouldn't have scored at least 3 or 4 was watching a different game. If you want to see a team currently suffering from being unable to create chances, tune in to the game at Old Trafford and see Manyoo midfielders take pot shots at Craig Gordon.

Should be against this lot with 10 men tbh. Otherwise I would be worried. Big plus for me was how stuck at it and the players were very positive on the ball and looking up all the time. Worried by the lack of a genuine creative player/hub. We nearly didn't break them down today and we will struggle against better sides to make chances. But not bothered at the moment and happy with the points. We didn't break them down? We had 3 clear-cut 'should have been a goal' chances in the first half and plenty more in the second when they decided to defend with 10 men. We're just not finishing well atm, which is down to our strikers not being sharp enough. There's no problem with a lack of chances being created.