SteveMc

Sir Kenny. Yadda yadda yadda

He's an effective cunt mind. and we all appreciate one of them

3 games he's shoehorned him or Campbell in for no reason and 3 defeats to opposition that have been equivilent standard to us this season is no coincidence. He can't learn quickly enough to stop dicking about with the back 4 IMO. I can sort of understand him putting S. Taylor in for Coloccini when Colo moved to midfield, simply cause there was no one else available. But as you say, hopefully it never happens again. I understand his reasoning too but for me, and I know I've said this f*** loads, but you just don't change a settled back four. More or less every team thats been successful has had a settled back 4 and I know we're only relatively successful this season but a settled back four is a large back of it. I agree with you. It's my number one rule for team selection, keeping a good back four settled. I'd have played Ferguson Barton Guthrie Jonas and kept the back four settled. Oh well. Natural positioning & form > experience at all times. We'd have lost 1-0 with that midfield

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Don't remember Hangeland being massively s*** at all. Remember quite the opposite actually. Was pretty good from the very outset. I remember him getting bossed by our forwards in a 2-0win IIRC in his first season. Looked uncomfortable as f***. The first win under KK? Quite possibly, can't remember tbh. Think it was and was well overdue. Coud see why he might bottle it as we were gagging for the win

Not sure we can afford the luxury of 'peddling' potentially decent footballers at present

Don't remember Hangeland being massively s*** at all. Remember quite the opposite actually. Was pretty good from the very outset. I remember him getting bossed by our forwards in a 2-0win IIRC in his first season. Looked uncomfortable as f***. The first win under KK?

Did that job well at Wigan as I recall

True but clearly we were struggling hence disrupting the back 4 Exactamundo. The Stoke abberation was a worry for me, but he's in the clear villa wise for me

And Barton in the middle would have been a worry. we can all see why he tried to keep him out wide?

Same here, but I love it.

3 games he's shoehorned him or Campbell in for no reason and 3 defeats to opposition that have been equivilent standard to us this season is no coincidence. He can't learn quickly enough to stop dicking about with the back 4 IMO. I can sort of understand him putting S. Taylor in for Coloccini when Colo moved to midfield, simply cause there was no one else available. But as you say, hopefully it never happens again. I understand his reasoning too but for me, and I know I've said this f*** loads, but you just don't change a settled back four. More or less every team thats been successful has had a settled back 4 and I know we're only relatively successful this season but a settled back four is a large back of it. True, but they were pretty extreme circumstances. 3 suspended, 3 injured and well off in central defence. I had me doubts, but thought it worth the risk

It'll feel better if we get a decent replacment I'm sure. Bit of an emotional stasis at the mo, which is why it still feels weird True, Monday compounded the gloom coming only 24 hrs after we'd fielded arguably our weakest front pairing in 30 years. Yep - the Vila game took on much more emotional weight than it deserved as it became apparent what we were missing

Footie is spending it on yourself though isn't it?

And even last week I could see why he did what he did. Would be labelled a tactical genius if it worked. Just happned it didn't......I thought we were going down following West Brom away (the most abject performance I'd seen us put in in years) so staying up and kicking on next year would be a result

Wrong. Was a bit of a sweeping statement like

It'll feel better if we get a decent replacment I'm sure. Bit of an emotional stasis at the mo, which is why it still feels weird

Tickets for the game on Tuesday at SJP are stretching it like.

Brede Hangeland = 194 cm tall, great aerial ability and physical strength = perfect for the Premier League. I still think Oscar Wendt isn't ready. On the other hand, it's just my opinion. Who knows, a new league, a new team, a new challenge maybe is just what he needs and improves. This lads a full back tho' non?

Still in a headspin about his sale if honest. I initially wanted him to be a permacrock or underperformer. Now I'm not so sure

He seems a good finisher when confident, scored rucks in the reserves. He also seems to be physically up to it, I actually thought he was ok in the air first half v Villa. If he pulls it round he's got every chance. Big IF mind

He's a top lad no doubt

His attitude ought to be better, granted. I think a combination of cuddle and slap is the way to go. Seems to be what Pards and Nolan are trying and I think they are best placed to judge.

In a nut shell Aye, we're all experts when it comes to nurturing young footballing talent.

Just about to say the same. Good job it mattered little