Unbelievable

I’m more worried about Poland than Austria really. Let’s see how we do. A win would do nicely.

Reasonably. We’ve looked good vs Canada (4-0) and Iceland (also 4-0) and expectations aren’t all that high, but I’m hopeful we’ll make the quarters at least.

2-0 great goal

Howe sure loves to bring in players he's managed before doesn't he..?

Linesman must be fucking blind as a bat

Not even close to offside ffs

He’ll probably end up on their bench like, but aye, don’t think we have a realistic shot at this if Bayern and them lot are interested.

You’d expect the club to know his attitude or application level though? FWIW it’s gathered nothing but praise from his manager at Feyenoord, and that part of his game has been clearly and abundantly visible by anyone who’s taken the time to see him play. I’d have very little concerns about the mental side of his game. Whether he’s ready to step it up a level is another matter, and definitely one for the club to consider. As for it being as simple as we know we need money for a first team RW, just as there are no guarantees that Minteh will turn out to be a world beater there is no guarantee that a more proven player from say Italy or France will adapt well to the PL and stay fit, so I don’t think your gamble vs sure thing juxtaposition works all that well. Pre-season is only a few weeks away. I say let Eddie have a good look at him and then decide the best way forward. Unless someone offers way over the odds obviously, but to sell for a negligible profit when we may have out long term RW solution already on the books doesn’t seem particularly smart.

Really? Don’t know C-D, but then looking at his first team experience I doubt any Newcastle fan not in a scouting job would. Minteh has been scoring goals in the CL and his national team. I think it’s fair to say he’s a bit more proven..?

If we go down that road, ideally we’d get somebody who could fill both the right wing (first choice) and striker (backup) position, allowing to rest Isak/Wilson (whoever isn’t injured at the time) and give Minteh a few minutes at the end of games. If we think Minteh is good enough to grow into a first team player here we should create some space in the team for him to develop. Knowing Eddie this would probably be a slow process anyway.

Excellent news. We need to get the talent producing conveyer belt up and running.

So five year deal as opposed to four he mentioned previously. Assume Ornstein was right then.

Exactly how I see it regarding Minteh

Hazard, Countinho, Hleb, Woodgate, Anelka... All moved from PL to La Liga and flopped hard. Does that make them bad players or devalue the PL? Look, of course the Dutch league is a lower level than the PL, La Liga, etc. It currently sits as the 6th strongest European league, just below Ligue 1 and above Portugal, Belgium, etc. It's still a fairly decent level and a good proving ground for young players. Therefore Minteh's stats at that level are far from meaningless, even if obviously they equally don't mean he will smash the PL. The reason this is a bit of a bugbear for me is that the league's quality has been gradually and systematically eroded by, notably but not exclusively, Premier League teams that have consistently over decades taken the best youth products from our academies, often at an age before they've even had a chance of first team football. Back when I was young I'd argue the Eredivisie was not far if at all behind the PL in terms of quality of the top teams, and Dutch teams regularly won European competitions. Now Dutch teams find themselves competing for South American players in the hope of selling them on for a profit in order to survive. Also, ever since the influx of big money in English football, first with the formation of the PL increasing TV revenues and then with oligarch owners, the balance has gradually shifted more and more towards the PL being the far stronger league evidently. To me cherry picking a nation's best young players from youth academies and having ten times more to spend on your squads is comparable to how FFP has internally within English football served to solidify a status quo whereby only an entitled few can compete and everybody else is just making up the numbers. This kind of self sustaining imbalance is bad for football, plain and simple.

Neither does Teun Koopmeiners

Luuk de Jong also scored 3 in 7 CL games, 8 in 11 if you include CL qualifiers. He also scored twice for Sevilla in a won Europa league final vs Inter, and played for Barcelona and the Dutch national team. Could it be he’s not entirely shit and NUFC completely mismanaged him, as we did to so many players at the time..?

I’d be interested to hear who’s on this long list. Also, show me a league, foreign or lower, that doesn’t have its fair share of failures. Sometimes good players adapt badly to new surroundings, it happens.

Good manager, what a shame for them

When he commented on Liverpool's supposed interest in him earlier this week.

You rate Championship higher than Eredivisie and first round Champions League? From what I've seen this kid would be wasting his time playing the likes of Sunderland week in week out.

I told my mate I think he's being harsh calling him a headless chicken based on what I've seen. The boy is clearly very talented, but he's not 40m talented.

The difference between an Ashley led NUFC and this lot, mind boggling

Class this

Minteh has not fucking dominated the Eredivisie man

You reckon? He’s seen every minute the lad’s been on the pitch this season, most of them live in the stadium, so I suggest his opinion at least has some merit.