Unbelievable

Oh dear. Horrible cros Zog..

Good play Bassong..

Carrol almost.

We should be up one or two. Playing well. Hope we will not regret these misses later this afternoon..

N'Zogbia hacked back from behind. Good spot for a free kick. If only we had a dead ball specialist..

And people say he is world class..

Owen misses a sitter!

Looks like Duff prefers the right as opposed to the left. Another good cross.

Good play by Duff on the right wing. He actually skinned a defender!

Owen would have scored that one..

Riise and Ferguson. Super Joe sure has some quality players in mind. Sorry for the obviousness but Joe + the super duper scouting team behind him Aye, I bet those two took some spotting. Just like Bassong! I thought you would be happy Dave since you've insisted that the manager should pick his signings. The ED(F) is still in place & running the transfers & contracts, if he was not happy we would not be doing the deal. Nice try of turning it around. Everyone on here who was moaning that the manager should be able to sign who he wants should be happy with themselves, they've finally got it. Forget these foreign players who are scouts have their eye on, Kinnear wants Ferguson and the club are going to get him so they should be happy. I am not turning anything around, we still have the same system in place but the part TJ played has been split between Decca & Dennis. Do you think Ashley is keeping Dennis on to do f*** all? But I think what Dennis/Mike/Joe maybe are doing atm is trying to protect PL status with old heads. If you read the Mike Ashley statement the full version that was in the programme he still makes it clear young talent is still what he is about. Wise's job will still be the same, the only difference is that it looks like he's going to get the players in the manager wants now instead of these fancy foreigners, Kinnear wants Barry Ferguson and we're going for him so everyone should be happy. Wise was at Bramall Lane checking on if believed Naughton & Quinn, who sent him there JFK? People believe a manager should have players they like or at least input because if they don't you end up with chaps like Xisco not playing at all. This does not mean everyone likes the players a manager may bring in. He's there to find players and bring them to the managers attention, if they've recommended players to Kinnear and he still prefers the likes of Riise and Ferguson then people have already said they would prefer the club to get the players in the manager wants which they look to be doing. Not sure how Xisco comes into this because he was signed before Kinnear was even here and every new manager coming into a club will find one or two players they don't like. How do you/we know Dennis & Jeff have not looked at the team & thought we need a left back with PL experience as Jose is dying in some games. I think we may be going for older players because we are in the s****, do you not think that? I know you love your Ligue 1 players but maybe this window is not the time for youth or outsiders while were in the mire & it is still Ashley's club his rules & Dennis Wise is more than a "glorified scout" if you believe that your mental, he is the top man on the football side of things. Anyway we are still linked with them zAnEy foreign types: The gulf between the two sides is cavernous, but Webo is a hard-working striker. However, in recent weeks the prospect of relegation and insolvency seem to have left him dejected. Rumours that he will be a target for Newcastle United have surfaced once again and it would be difficult to believe the Cameroonian would reject the chance to jump ship, particularly as his former team-mate Jonas Gutierrez made the move to St James Park over the summer. http://www.clickafrique.com/Magazine/ST010/CP0000003164.aspx Because Kinnear is the one saying that these players are what he wants and they don't really fit into what the club was looking for in the Summer. Wise is over everything on the football side but as I've said, people wanted the club to go for players that the manager wanted and we now look like doing that with Kinnear's recent comments, I love good footballers btw and I don't care where they come from. Baggio, the problem is most people on here don't really accept Kinnear as our manager and rightfully so. He was brought in as a stop gap, and it doesn't bear thinking what will happen if Ashley decides to hand him another contract extension beyond his current one. The fact that we will (hopefully) be on the lookout for a new manager at the end of this season makes it even more difficult to attract good players, because they don't know who their manager is going to be. Ideally we would replace Kinnear now with a permanent solution for the manager problem. If Ashley is serious about wanting another chance why persevere with a mediocre manager who is well capable of getting us relegated? So what you're saying is they should let the manager buy the players that he wants as long as it's a manager that you like? Out of interest would you have preferred the scouting team to have signed players the previous Summer or were you happy with Allardyce's deals? My own opinion is they should just get in the players they want now, get rid of Kinnear at the end of the season and bring someone in they can work with. It's not about who I want as our permanent manager, but about who Ashley and Wise want. They will live or die by that decision. Seeing as Kinnear was brought in as a stop gap I have reasonable hope that they don't consider him as a long term solution (if they do they will self-destruct quicker than I give them credit for), and as such the same does not apply to him as it did to Keegan, who the gave a contract spanning a longer period. Allardyce's signings didn't work out, but at least he fell into his own sword with that, as Dave has pointed out. How do you ever judge a manager if he isn't allowed to form his own team? I do agree with you about what they should do in this particular situation, but certainly not as a general rule of thumb. I am in favour of a DoF style system, but one where the manager picks the first team signings, and the DoF look after the scouting and youth development and they work together like sensible adults to do what's right for the club, one focussing on the short term and the other on the long term. I'm not sure what kind of system we have got here though..

aye, and that creative midfielder/modric alternative we all knew [manager included] we desperately needed, is flying for us isnt he? so whats the argument here, that we dont spend money or we dont buy the right players? Are you drunk? well? Well what?

Riise and Ferguson. Super Joe sure has some quality players in mind. Sorry for the obviousness but Joe + the super duper scouting team behind him Aye, I bet those two took some spotting. Just like Bassong! I thought you would be happy Dave since you've insisted that the manager should pick his signings. The ED(F) is still in place & running the transfers & contracts, if he was not happy we would not be doing the deal. Nice try of turning it around. Everyone on here who was moaning that the manager should be able to sign who he wants should be happy with themselves, they've finally got it. Forget these foreign players who are scouts have their eye on, Kinnear wants Ferguson and the club are going to get him so they should be happy. I am not turning anything around, we still have the same system in place but the part TJ played has been split between Decca & Dennis. Do you think Ashley is keeping Dennis on to do f*** all? But I think what Dennis/Mike/Joe maybe are doing atm is trying to protect PL status with old heads. If you read the Mike Ashley statement the full version that was in the programme he still makes it clear young talent is still what he is about. Wise's job will still be the same, the only difference is that it looks like he's going to get the players in the manager wants now instead of these fancy foreigners, Kinnear wants Barry Ferguson and we're going for him so everyone should be happy. Wise was at Bramall Lane checking on if believed Naughton & Quinn, who sent him there JFK? People believe a manager should have players they like or at least input because if they don't you end up with chaps like Xisco not playing at all. This does not mean everyone likes the players a manager may bring in. He's there to find players and bring them to the managers attention, if they've recommended players to Kinnear and he still prefers the likes of Riise and Ferguson then people have already said they would prefer the club to get the players in the manager wants which they look to be doing. Not sure how Xisco comes into this because he was signed before Kinnear was even here and every new manager coming into a club will find one or two players they don't like. How do you/we know Dennis & Jeff have not looked at the team & thought we need a left back with PL experience as Jose is dying in some games. I think we may be going for older players because we are in the s****, do you not think that? I know you love your Ligue 1 players but maybe this window is not the time for youth or outsiders while were in the mire & it is still Ashley's club his rules & Dennis Wise is more than a "glorified scout" if you believe that your mental, he is the top man on the football side of things. Anyway we are still linked with them zAnEy foreign types: The gulf between the two sides is cavernous, but Webo is a hard-working striker. However, in recent weeks the prospect of relegation and insolvency seem to have left him dejected. Rumours that he will be a target for Newcastle United have surfaced once again and it would be difficult to believe the Cameroonian would reject the chance to jump ship, particularly as his former team-mate Jonas Gutierrez made the move to St James Park over the summer. http://www.clickafrique.com/Magazine/ST010/CP0000003164.aspx Because Kinnear is the one saying that these players are what he wants and they don't really fit into what the club was looking for in the Summer. Wise is over everything on the football side but as I've said, people wanted the club to go for players that the manager wanted and we now look like doing that with Kinnear's recent comments, I love good footballers btw and I don't care where they come from. Baggio, the problem is most people on here don't really accept Kinnear as our manager and rightfully so. He was brought in as a stop gap, and it doesn't bear thinking what will happen if Ashley decides to hand him another contract extension beyond his current one. The fact that we will (hopefully) be on the lookout for a new manager at the end of this season makes it even more difficult to attract good players, because they don't know who their manager is going to be. Ideally we would replace Kinnear now with a permanent solution for the manager problem. If Ashley is serious about wanting another chance why persevere with a mediocre manager who is well capable of getting us relegated?

aye, and that creative midfielder/modric alternative we all knew [manager included] we desperately needed, is flying for us isnt he? so whats the argument here, that we dont spend money or we dont buy the right players? Are you drunk?

Indeed, reading some poster's comments on here you'd think it was rocket science..

In what way has Deco been disappointing for Chelsea exactly..? I seem to remember a fair few matches where he scored them the winner.

Newcastle beating Liverpool..? Seems like a pipedream after this weekend..

Agreed, great post. One question though : "I think for the majority of our fans this will be last chance saloon for Mr Ashley." Or else what? We'll have demonstrations and boycott (sorry, boycoutt) the club shop? I don't think this statement changes anything really. Mike Ashley will still sell the club if a high enough bid comes in at any stage. All this means is that Ashley isn't paying Keith Harris a riduculous wage to make phone calls to Dubai every day anymore. Yes, there has been several flaws in the Ashley regime (and the complete lack of communication between the board and the fans is ridiculous - yes, 99% of what gets said should come from the manager, but it's nice to get a soundbite from the top every month or so to share their vision for the club or whatever ... seriously, bring back Chris Mort!), but I do believe Ashley is a shrewd enough businessman to realise that the only way he won't make a massive loss on this club would be to invest. And I know loads of people are bemoaning a perceived lack of investment, but we did break our transfer record for a defender by signing Coloccini. It will be in everyone's best interests to pull together. So, yes, love Ashley or hate him, but we're stuck with him and we need him. And he needs us. To answer your question, I do believe the majority of fans are willing to give Ashley another chance given our current predicament, not despite of it. If he doesn't take it, I think what will happen will be far worse for the club than demonstrations and boycoutts, namely apathy will set in big style, resulting in significantly lower crowds and the club losing even more ground (financially and otherwise) to the top clubs in the country and those willing to invest to get there. We as Newcastle United supporters have been spoilt in the last two decades, but whenever I speak to my Geordie friends I sense there is a growing feeling of frustration with the club. The reason there was such a massive outburst after the events at the end of the transfer window was twofold in my opinion. Firstly, it was clear to all and sundry the club had once again managed to shoot itself in the foot in spectacular style; another season was effectively over before it well and truly started, even though there had been promising signs of a reversal of fortune. Second, Ashley and his management team to which we had not exactly endeared ourselves yet had unwillingly soiled the reputation of one of our few club legends. It was an emotional reaction to a surprising turn of events. Things have changed since then. Time is a great healer as they say, but instead of massive upset has come progressive indifference. Events on the pitch in the past half season have done little to buck this trend. I think Ashley has made a mistake by distancing himself from the club as he has done. He could have come out and hold his hands up, attempt to correct the situation by making changes to his management team and saying he was willing to listen to offers if a worthy new custodian came in. As it was, he more or less left us to our own devices and I don't think it has limited the damage as it could have done if he had been more active in trying to resolve the issues that had led to the events leading to Keegan's departure. We will give Ashley another chance because there isn't really an alternative as most people are "locked in" by season tickets. Whether people will be willing to renew if there aren't significant changes made between now and renewal time remains to be seen, especially in the current economic climate. It is in everybody's best interest that Ashley has learned from his mistakes and corrects them, because if he plans on continuing as he has done people's interest in the club will dwindle, and along will the club itself.

I wouldn't ask him any question before I'd ascertained myself he had finished his cup of truth serum..

I am pleased nor disappointed about this "news", as the club's mouthpieces have had us warming to the idea for a while and I have to admit it's better to have Ashley speak out some form of commitment to the cause than to have the club left in its recent limbo any longer. However, I sympathise more with the 30% of posters who say they are unhappy about this latest development than with the 70% who are. Everything depends on your perspective I suppose. I am content (happy is putting it way too strong) with this newest twist given our dire situation and the fact it is seemingly impossible to flog the club in the current climate at a price deemed reasonable to Mr Ashley. I am however disappointed by the fact they haven’t been able to find a buyer capable of really moving us forward, and this announcement slams the door shut for that to happen in the foreseeable future. We are stuck with Ashley whether we want it or not, and we may as well give the man another chance to prove his worth and pull together in support of the club (and that includes the present owner), because it doesn’t seem like there will be a hero saviour who will magically right all the wrongs anytime soon. Having said that, over one and a half year in Ashley’s tenure I am still waiting to be convinced by him and it’s fair to say my initial “waiting to be convinced” has gradually transformed into an unhealthy scepticism. Ashley has made huge mistakes, ranging from getting the due diligence wrong and not having money available to invest as a result, lousy communication with the fans (“it’s a FACT”, silence), terrible appointments (a management team unable to work together for the best interest of the club), running at the first sign of trouble and a lack of expectancy management. He will not get a clean slate but he has bought some time with this, and I think for the majority of our fans this will be last chance saloon for Mr Ashley. He will have to prove in the next months he has learned his lesson and is willing to invest in order to move the club forward, not just sideways. For me, this entails attracting a level of manager capable of moving us back to the top half of the table consistently (not Joe Kinnear!) and backing that manager by bringing in the players he wants on a transfer and wage budget that has been agreed beforehand. Despite not addressing some key weak areas in our squad and falling out with each other, there have been some decent acquisitions in the summer, so it’s a matter of building on what’s there and making it work with the right manager in charge to oversee the on-the-field progress. Making a football club successful is a long term proposition. Ashley has not made the best of starts, but since we’re stuck with him he gets my support for one more chance to move this club in the right direction. Although I am still sceptical he will duly deliver and promise to continue to voice my criticism when I see fit (i.e. when the club’s management is deserving of it), I dread to think what will happen if he doesn’t.. It’s up to you Mr Ashley to turn this ship around.

This is just taking the piss..

Not offside.. This linesman doesn´t have a clue..

This might still end up in double digits if Pool want if enoigh you know..

Stonewall.. Our defense is shit without Beye and Bassong..

Pen..