Unbelievable

FFS Ozil. Arsenal look superb but have no end product.

FFS Wilshire

He really said that http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/john-carver-use-relegation-experience-9294096?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Last 2 lines

How do you work that one out Yorkie? The club might become slightly less attractive to would be investors, and Ashley could not ask as much for it as he would perhaps have liked, but surely its worth to SD would also suffer significantly, making it more likely that Ashley would be willing to do a deal if an investor presented itself? Well, that is one argument in favour of your suggestion, but I also presented one in favour of the opposite and I don't think it is unreasonable that Ashley would value NUFC not at its intrinsic/market value, but at how valuable "it" is to SD/himself, so from that perspective it might just as well make him more likely to sell. The fact is there is no way of knowing really.

How do you work that one out Yorkie? The club might become slightly less attractive to would be investors, and Ashley could not ask as much for it as he would perhaps have liked, but surely its worth to SD would also suffer significantly, making it more likely that Ashley would be willing to do a deal if an investor presented itself?

Must have been with our start to the season

5 tbh

He wants to be hounded out of town along with the rest of them for that

That article is absolutely rank. From the translation of the Garde quote to suggesting Hull are guranteed safety if they win to the Carver quotes to the post mortem bit. What the flying fuck

Interesting theory brummie, but I'm afraid this is (yet again) a case of utter incompetence rather than outright malice, although Mike Ashley is definitely no stranger to the latter.

That can't be real surely?

I would not be at all surprised if there has been interest for the club in recent years, but Ashley has been unwilling to negotiate a reasonable deal. What makes people think Ashley would sell if he could? He's onto an absolute winner here: the club is profitable, revenue is increasing and SD is getting continued global coverage. Maintain the status quo and he will happily be here in another 20 years imo.

Yey! We survived another season so we get a chance to survive another season again next year. Hurray!! Woop woop. Against the other option of "yay, we've been relegation so we get the chance to possibly come back up and then have the chance to survive again"? What do people want? Us to be a Championship club forever? With the squad we have, we're not going to be fighting for anything near the top 8 spots. I think people need to get realistic and realise this - it is going to take major improvements for this to happen. People have short memories, we were a Championship club not long ago - our club has been murdered under Ashley for years. We're not going to be magically fixed and healed the day he leaves. On this day, we are fighting relegation - forgive me if I am happy that we do. Stay up and absolutely nothing changes - guaranteed. Manager, owner, coaches, atmosphere, players, ambition - nothing will change. More of the same in perpetuity. Go down and something positive could unfold. Wouldn't mind rolling the dice and finding out tbh. Taking a few steps back to clean the dogshit off our shoes wouldn't be the worst thing in the world imo. The club will be just fine in the long term, just needs a few uncomfortable years to get rid of it's parasite first. I agree, nothing will change if we stay up. That's from the top, everything you listed is down to the tosser in charge of our club. But going down, is more likely to have a negative effect than positive. When we went down last time, did anything change? Did anything change when we came back up? No, because the same fat tosser is in charge. Would Ashley sell if we went down? Definitely not, he'd make a bigger loss and he's a business man that only cares about his pocket. He wants £x amount for us and will not sell until he gets offered it. There is no way anybody would pay that for a Championship team. Even if we go down, we protest, we burn down Ashley's home - we can make him want to sell, but we cant make somebody buy us. We've in effect been for sale for the past 3/4/5 years, if Ashley was given an acceptable offer for us at any point he'd have snatched their hand off. But he hasn't. The only possible positive I can see from going down, is the cheaper games and fact we might win a few. Completely understand where you are coming from, but I guess if we all had the same opinion it'd be boring. Fascinating stuff. Source? Didn't say it was a fact, matter of opinion - only time will tell on that one. You didn't just make some assumptions about the future, you also made some pretty definitive statements about what has or has not happened in the past few years, with no substance to back it up it seems.

Yey! We survived another season so we get a chance to survive another season again next year. Hurray!! Woop woop. Against the other option of "yay, we've been relegation so we get the chance to possibly come back up and then have the chance to survive again"? What do people want? Us to be a Championship club forever? With the squad we have, we're not going to be fighting for anything near the top 8 spots. I think people need to get realistic and realise this - it is going to take major improvements for this to happen. People have short memories, we were a Championship club not long ago - our club has been murdered under Ashley for years. We're not going to be magically fixed and healed the day he leaves. On this day, we are fighting relegation - forgive me if I am happy that we do. Stay up and absolutely nothing changes - guaranteed. Manager, owner, coaches, atmosphere, players, ambition - nothing will change. More of the same in perpetuity. Go down and something positive could unfold. Wouldn't mind rolling the dice and finding out tbh. Taking a few steps back to clean the dogshit off our shoes wouldn't be the worst thing in the world imo. The club will be just fine in the long term, just needs a few uncomfortable years to get rid of it's parasite first. I agree, nothing will change if we stay up. That's from the top, everything you listed is down to the tosser in charge of our club. But going down, is more likely to have a negative effect than positive. When we went down last time, did anything change? Did anything change when we came back up? No, because the same fat tosser is in charge. Would Ashley sell if we went down? Definitely not, he'd make a bigger loss and he's a business man that only cares about his pocket. He wants £x amount for us and will not sell until he gets offered it. There is no way anybody would pay that for a Championship team. Even if we go down, we protest, we burn down Ashley's home - we can make him want to sell, but we cant make somebody buy us. We've in effect been for sale for the past 3/4/5 years, if Ashley was given an acceptable offer for us at any point he'd have snatched their hand off. But he hasn't. The only possible positive I can see from going down, is the cheaper games and fact we might win a few. Completely understand where you are coming from, but I guess if we all had the same opinion it'd be boring. Fascinating stuff. Source?

They won't appoint Carver. Last time we got too close to danger, Ashley forced Llambias out and brought in Kinnear. He will react to this season, and there are no long terms contractual commitments to the manager this time. NSIS

They won't appoint Carver. They absolutely will like I dont think they will. guess we'll have to wait and see. They haven't even started working on an alternative now Schteve has turned us down. No doubt in my mind as to what will happen.

They won't appoint Carver. They absolutely will like

Shit FK

Get in

Ayoze

That lineup