Unbelievable

2 million prize money For the pre-season tournament winner, aye. At least, that's what RTG seems to think.

Finished 1-0. Chance of 2 million prize money gone. Shame..

How's he cracking under pressure already exactly? Not sure if serious, but I'll oblige anyway. He's alienated his new club's biggest investment, made himself look like a fool in public by making completely contradictory statements (probably because he's been pulled up by his superiors behing the scenes), gone after players from his old club despite a supposed gentlemen's agreement (and still claims he respects Swansea and they respect him) showing no imagination to implement his ideas on a higher level (I know), and finally he's talking about other club's players whilst claiming in the same breath he's not the type to do such things. In short, he behaves like a walking, talking PR disataster for his club. Not bad for a month's work I would say.

The man's cracking under pressure already. Hope they crash and burn this upcoming season.

Shame. Excellent player when his body didn't let him down. Will Spurs be looking for another central defender, or is Vertonghen his replacement?

A 4-3-3 would make sense, especially with Anita as a single holding midfielder with a box-to-box midfielder and a play maker. I was under the impression (apparently wrong) he was seen as utility player, to be fielded alternately as either DM or left full back. Yup, and going by your avatar and text I'd guess you are as well Other than Dutch football I have an interest in the EPL and I keep track of Dutch players in England. With Anita being a possible candidate for Van Gaal's future national squad and all. This is one of those potential transfers where the media like to blow a lot of smoke. My experience is that talking with other fans tends to provide a bit more clarity on the matter than reading sports-news. Welcome to the forum. I can do with some more Dutch representation, especially as we (NUFC) seem to be more and more active on the Dutch transfer market.

Sounds like the 5 of you in black and white are in a bit of a pickle? How many of them are there?

Would you say Sewelly is on a crusade, seeing as he posts more than me on this subject, or just me because you disagree with my opinion? Over 3 or 4 threads you are clearly the common denominator Edit: And what in the hell has my opinion of it got to do with what i said. Its becoming a habit of yours to ignore the actual post and go off on your own agenda You either don't have one or are unable to express it by the looks of it. Not wasting anymore time on you.

Would you say Sewelly is on a crusade, seeing as he posts more than me on this subject, or just me because you disagree with my opinion?

Difference is Carroll achieved those stats in 2 half seasons give or take.

Widely reported at the time (January 2011), with quotes from old 'arry backing it up (the offer, not necessarily the amount).

Are you Dutch Ilsteir? What brings you here if you don't mind me asking?

Agreed. That would put us in a really strong position as long as nobody else has come in that Carroll would consider moving to and Carroll has been fully ignored by Rodgers. The only problem is where it would leave us if the plan doesn't work. That won't enter into Mike's thinking though, unfortunately, so I would be surprised to see another striker/forward come in before deadline day.

That said, has there been anything anywhere but sky saying Anita has told Ajax he wants to leave? Actually appeared on the Voetbal International website later. Maybe Talksport does have a source inside Voetbal International that passes them on this sort of information after all.

From the official Liverpool website: Changed his tune hasn't he?

"There has been a lot written and spoken about him but first and foremost Andy is a Liverpool player," said the boss. "To consider a loan period for someone the club spent £35million on isn't something we're looking to do at this moment in time. "Andy will be the same as every other player - if there's ever an offer that comes in we'd look at it as a club and see if it's going to be worthwhile for the club and the team as a whole. "The club invested £35million in him. People talk about whether he can fit into my style or not, but if you're a club and you spend £35million on a player you'd like to think he can fit into whatever style the team plays. "He's a good player. He'll join the rest of the group next week and we'll take it from there." Sounds like the Americans have given him his first bollicking..

Where has that 25% bollocks come from? Either way, I'm not interested in a permanent deal unless it's a real steal, and this ain't it. Hope they've got it wrong.

An actual quote from the player today probably goes a long way towards explaining why he chose them over us in my opinion:

Nothing on the Voetbal International site. Sounds like more bollocks from talksport.

As much as I can see why we're after him, I wouldn't want us to shell out anywhere near that much before he's proved to be a good fit and able to recapture his earlier form in a season long loan. For that kind of money as a permanent transfer I'd rather we look elsewhere.

If that was true, why did Rodgers specifically hint at a Carroll loan, not an actual transfer out of the club?

Were Spurs midtable when they bid 25 milion? I'm not. I just fail to see why people would be so opposed to bringing Carroll back on loan, thus saving money for other priority positions and giving us a different option up top. As I've already said, I won't shed a tear if we don't get him in as long as we get another quality forward in and I will completely trust Carr, Pardew and Mike for once in whatever decision they make, as they've earned that trust. I'm not advocating buying Carroll at 15 million if we have better options just to get one over Liverpool or anything. I do happen to think that a lot of people are oversimplifying what getting Carroll back in would mean for our set-up and underestimating what the player himself could add to our squad though, as you may have noticed..

The very same one that we had a loan bid rejected for yes. Sorry i was rather stupidly working on what Liverpool want to do rather than what they wont accept What makes you think we will offer what Liverpool want? We do a deal on our terms or we walk away, it's that simple.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=295667.0 Some of the comments, christ are these fuckers clueless. 13 million plus Ba.. We'll offer a 1 million loan fee and to pay half of his wages for a year loan, with maybe a fixed fee at the end of that, and if they don't accept that they can fuck right off.