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Not if we were planning to spunk the thick end of it away on Fatty Kenny. Jaysus H Christ..........

Such a difficult question to answer, because opinions are so heavily dependent upon what we all see on the TV, which in turn is dependent upon 1) what back 4 is in front of the 'keeper; and 2) what the keeper does that we cannot see on the TV. One of the limbs of this thread maintains that Given is class because of the performances that he puts in despite what is in front of him. Fact is, having shite in front of a keeper often gives said keeper a platform to show off their shot-stopping skills. Over the last x years, Given has had ample opportunity to show off this part of his game. In this area, he is truly one of the game's best. Fact is, being a top class keeper involves so much more than this. Earlier in the thread, people have picked out errors that Jens Lehmann has made as meaning he is turd. Fact of the matter is, if Given had the organisational and communication skills of Lehmann, we'd concede far less goals. Given does all the 'Hollywood' stuff very well - it's the unrecognised, undervalued elements of a 'keeper's game where he's lacking. His kicking has improved though, from what I've seen this year. Reading through this thread has started me 'what-if-ing'....what if we had managed to sign Friedel under KK all those years ago, rather than his permit getting revoked? Could have been interesting....

At Watford in the LC a couple of seasons ago, directing "Are you shagging Elton John?" at the ref. Was amazing to see the ripple through the Watford fans in the opposite end as they came back with "Are you shagging Ant & Dec?".

About 3 times that I know of: as kid when at the boys club, leaving Gillingham for Norwich & before going to Man Utd from Norwich. Care to tell me how many times Newcastle tried to get him?? Or shall we class every geordie footballer who never played for The Toon as a plastic geordie?? Look at the teams SBR played for/managed before he came to us - is he a plastic geordie? Fuc*ing grow up!! No, just the ones who purport to be black and white to the core, but wouldnt play for us and never tried. Sorry to tell you but Sir Bobby is from Langley Park Durham To be fair, depends what angle you look at it from.... (from Wiki) When referring to the people, as opposed to the dialect, dictionary definitions of a Geordie typically refer to "a native or inhabitant of Newcastle upon Tyne, England, or its environs", an area that encompasses North Tyneside, Newcastle, South Tyneside and Gateshead. However, just as a Cockney is often colloquially defined as someone "born within the sound of the Bow bells", a Geordie can be defined as someone born "within spitting distance of the Tyne". Another interpretation is the mining areas of the North East of England.

It's about how you show that support, and in which forum, surely? As mentioned before, the gesture he made is usually used to refer to the 'wrongfully' convicted (or gang members who have gone to prison for 'the cause'). Inappropriate in the extreme, even more so when done in public.

As things stand, Agbonlahor is just allowing the media to fill in the blanks, which is fucking irresponsible. Says that he doesn't want to make a complaint because Joey's had enough bad press, when in turn allowing the rags to fabricate all the bad press they want. Cheers. Fair bet that not one journo has actually asked on the record - 'Yes or no, did JB say anything of a racial nature?'. It's all responses to a more open-ended question, like 'do you have anything to say about the incident with JB'.... reply = 'It's in the past, yadda yadda'....TWAT! Infuriated about this. I say boo the fuck out of him every touch at Villa Park.

Sorry, Gaby, but if Joey said anything racially derogative to you, I think you have a duty to yourself and everyone else who has ever sufferred racist abuse to report it and take all possible action. But he didn't, did he? You wanker. Makes a mockery of people who have experienced and struggled against racism throughout their lives.

It's if he's sent off for violent conduct, I think.

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Modric even with Guthrie ?? Coloccini even with Woodgate? Bentley even with Jonas(did you see his goal the other night!?)? Doesn't see pretty f---ing even to me - small bet on who will finish higher at season's end...? I don't think he's saying that Guthrie is better than Modric. He's saying we've go some class players, and so do they. Teams are evenly matched somewhat, and I agree with him. Given >>> Gomes Beye = Hutton Colocinni < Woodgate Taylor < Corluka Enrique = Exotto Jonas > Bentley Barton > Jenas Guthrie < Modric Duff = Bale Martins > Bent Owen >> Pavalyuchenckco TBH.

Or even just til the end of the season (as with Boro). Don't see why they don't just appoint him and let the new owners shoulder the cost of removing him as and when.

Fuck knows why it's taken so long to identify it as requiring surgery. Ridiculous levels of incompetence. Not that it matters a jot...!

Could you be a bit more vague, please?

SSN now.

Next manager, tbh.

I posted it for entertainment purposes only! Like Andy said, no-one knows, not the media, not the ITKs, but most unfortunately, certainly not the fans. And I doubt we ever will.

Our old mate Micksta is in over on F365 micksta wrote on Tue, 02 September 2008 20:07 I really think that Lliambas story is not far from the truth. As sky are reporting, KK did tell friends he had been sacked. The club have been convincing him to stay all afternoon. IT seems KK is deffo considering his future. Toon bid £5m for Lennon and Warnock as KK was promised them when selling Milner. Both Spurs and Blackburn quoted £6m for each of them. For some inexplicably reason the board were not prepared to go to £6m for each player. Basically all this sh*t has been caused by £2million worth of bottling. Xisco looks like it is a Vetere signing. Coloccini will have been asked about him and has obviously said he is worth pursuing. The fact he has cost nearly £6m that could have been used elsewhere to purchase Lennon and Warnock has enraged KK. The discussions yesterday and today escalated in to massive problems between Lliambas and KK, I have heard that Mike Ashley was not present for large parts of these meetings. Not from my mates mate in the Contracts department, but from someone else within the club.

If anything, reading that Daily Mail article has calmed me down. Stinks of horse-shit.

In a world where Milner is worth £12m, then yes.

Fair play to him, clearly gone to the club where he has best chance getting in the starting XI.

i don't think Milner's done anything wrong in trying to get more money, and I don't think we've done anything wrong in deciding we'd rather have £10m to buy someone better. well, he's spat his dummy out hasn't he, for someone saying he's loyal, then he's the least committed player in the squad for saying he wants to leave over a payrise i haven't seen michael owen hand in a transfer request over his contract Totally different situation - Owen's sitting on the final year of his contract and can talk to other clubs in Jan - he holds all the cards on that one. Milner is one year into a four year deal, so the club kind of have him over a barrel. It's the same concept though - pay me £X, or I'm off.

Probably annoyed that it made it look like Milner had handed in the request with 5 days to go in the window, rather than with two weeks to go.

Let's face it, James Milner can't cross his legs, never mind a football.

The money thing is clearly an issue, and it could be said that Milner is the unfortunate one that we are deciding to make an example of. Taylor's contract wranglings were partly to do with Charlie and Milner being on better terms whilst being of similar stature at the club (young player, first team regular, U21 international). Taylor gets the deal he wants, so Milner wants more, because he feels is of the same stature at the club, etc, etc...... The vicous circle would continue on and on unless the board dig their heels in, which they seemingly have done with Milner.

Half a mark (out of ten).