Parky

That's because he's been demoted from left back to the mental bloke who warns us about jinxing his mates.

Jinxed us now. Didn't take much did it? Fucking hell Parky you stupid CRETIN, look what you've gone and done mate. For fuck's sake. 0-4 I hope that fixes it, because if it doesn't I'm sending James around to RAPE you. Has James got a big willie?

Jinxed us now. Didn't take much did it? You can hold me to this, we will draw with Derby today ...for about the first 10 min yeah..

Jinxed us now. Didn't take much did it?

4-0

Shut up Crooks you cunt!!

Is that other commentator Garth Crooks? Jesus what a WUM....Does he ever say summat that isn't 100% obvious???

SA think is gives him more time on the ball running from deep postions...On the other hand he is less in dangerous areas. This is a player imo handled correctly can get 10 goals a season.

Inter 7 points clear at the top of Serie A and unbeaten in 16. Lovely draw for Benny. lol

This is the thing about Liv they always come out with some guff about how it's someone elses fault.

Wenger being made to pay for his nasty comments about Uefa. The end of the road for Liv.

What did he say? Something along the lines of Crouch not getting enough protection from Mikel by the ref led to him losing his head. as well as saying that the referee ruined the game with the sending off

What did he say?

...yeah bring the wife along as well.

Liverpool finances in murky waters. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=4MYAO0WL2ATAZQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/sport/2007/12/20/sfnfro120.xml "The global credit crunch and nervousness over debt on Liverpool's balance sheet has forced Hicks and Gillett to abandon plans to raise all the money they need in one go. Instead, they are now looking to borrow £350m to pay off a two-year loan with RBS worth around £270m, inject £60m of working capital for the ground and cover £25m of credit notes used to finance the summer purchases of Fernando Torres and Ryan Babel, again provided by RBS. It is understood that while the £60m of stadium financing will get Hicks and Gillett through the first 18 months of work on the Stanley Park project there are serious concerns over how they will raise the remaining £300m needed to complete the stadium. The Americans are confident of raising the money for the stadium once the project is under way, when it will be easier to secure contracts with future sponsors for naming rights and to predict income from the sale of seats and executive boxes."

They've said they won't loan in various articles on the interweb...so take that as you will. I'd say its a €12-15m euro price tag. Maybe a little less depending on how badly he wants out.

He isnt s*** at all. We have some average players who play regularly and he has twice their ability. Equally Cole and Ljungberg were in a different league to anything we have in our side. Some players get on your tits but you can't go dismissing ability like that. Leave that for the real tat. Quite a few people have rubbished my post, so ill try to make things a bit clear. Of course Diouff isnt s*** per se. A truly s*** player is Ameobi. Its within the context that hes s***, ie for his reputation - hes not got great ability, hes just a solid player who plays the game in an experienced fashion, ie knows how to draw fouls. Its like calling Beckham s*** after hes had a major tournament for England. Noone is saying hes a sunday league player, nor that hes no better than anything we have, but for his reputation he plays s*** in the big games, hence hes s***. There needs to be a context when judging a player, ie a standard, and most of the time its implied, otherwise a statement like "Ameobi is s***" would be wrong unless you say "Ameobi is s*** for a Premiership footballer". Here, the implied standard was these player's own reputations. As for Cahill, Cole and Ljungberg, I think the statement was structured a tad incorrectly - I meant to say that theyre overrated players who tend to play for dives more then actually playing good football, as opposed to them being average players. Again, like Beckham, because im calling them overrated doesnt mean im saying theyre no better than what we have, or average in terms of the bigger picture. Ashley Cole especially is obviously far from an avearge player, in my books hes a good left back at the top levels, but hes still overrated for me (ie often called one of the best in the world) and often does nothing in the big games (when hes last time you remember him getting forward and doing anything, for club or country, or even putting in a top class display? Again, this is supposedly one of the best in the world). Hes meant to have good ability on the ball, he used to be a good player going forward with Arsenal, but the past few years hes resorted to playing for free kicks and diving to get himself out of trouble, and generally being a whinging t*** instead of using his abilities to be the good player that he should be. Just a note on Ljungberg, but for me was always an average player. Even when he was scoring 20+ during his one off purple patch, he looked to me like a player who was benefitting greatly from being surrounded by vastly superior players, as opposed to being a very good player in his own right. His personal ability level wasnt that great, he just happened to fit into a great team well, a team that used his attributes to the fullest. For me, that didnt hide the fact that most of the time he (similarly) did nothing constructive in games except for miss chances or getting the ball and then playing for a dive - Robert Pires in contrast was imo a top player, a very good one, in comparison to Ljungberg who was playing above his level and "covering his tracks" by using his experience/intelligence rather than ability (ie, playing the game like a fag). Hence why I think hes s*** in context to his reputation of being a very good player. Entertaining and generally hitting some much needed targets.

Frederico Chaves Guedes, better pronounced as Fred it says somewhere so I guess there is no silent bits in there. Good with his head as well as feet which would be mucho importante to SA. I'd say better than Martins.

Nearly went to Roma in the summer. I wouldn't say a mega striker but good. You can never be sure these strikers from a fairly easy league will thrive in the PL and will need time to adjust. Rather have him than Crouch so yes.

Would you give a s*** if we were winning? Well, he hasn't scored goals, and we havent been winning as well as we'd like. We have a really tough 2nd half of the season, and will need both strikers (and contributions from MF) if we are to pick up enough wins to finish in the top 8. That wasn't the question - just taking him to task regarding this goals thing, it's a load of bollocks. If a team is winning, it doesn't matter that one of your strikers isn't scoring. He is obviously contributing elsewhere, and others are obviously making up for his shortfall as the team is winning. Of course I appreciate that we aren't winning, or at least not consistently and as such Smith's lack of scoring becomes more of a problem. I'm certain he will score a few this season - bear in mind he has played what, 3 games up front this season? Give him a run of 10 starts on the trot up front, I would expect 1-3 goals from him, but I would also expect to see us winning and keeping the ball in opposition territory a lot more, leading to more goals from others. Another sensible post. Good stuff. The people who are only able to judge a footballer on stats will be cringing. News just in, Sam Allardyce cringed so hard the skin on his cheeks fell off...both cheeks...all his cheeks ...some cheeks are bigger than others.

I just wonder....Pompey at home next for Rafa...What with their away form...Could be very tricky.

...back to the serengetti?

Double back with perch. mackems.gif

The most awkward tackle I've ever seen. This half is making up for the first. Hilarity unbound. mackems.gif Ditherpool in meltdown.