Dr Venkman

Again this comes back to you being content for Ashley to take his money back out of our transfer kitty. I'm not really sure what you mean by 'content', but I get what you're saying. I admit that I don't think it's unacceptable for him to take some debt repayments. Every regime in my lifetime has taken money from the club, at least Ashley only did after he'd given us a massive interest free loan. If he wants to take his debt after he's paid for a good enough striker and a good enough left winger and put a real manager in place, then good luck to him - if it helps him fuck off and drink himself to death quicker, all the better. Even you can't justify a penny taken before those three things are in place. I couldn't care less about the numbers if the team is good enough, I've said this many times. I simply do not give a shit. A consistently good team will always make more than enough money in other revenue to trump any debt they can build up without actively trying to bankrupt themselves.

It's a factor, it's not a vaild excuse for being shit all season.

Let's not forget that we didn't 'generally play pretty much our best team in Europe' at all, or anything close to it.

Exactly, don't understand all this Pardew hates Europe? He gave it his best shot, never neglected the cup and fielded weakened teams no matter the opposition. Fact of the matter is, that we generally played pretty much our strongest side in Europe and it did bare an impact on our league form and history tells us we weren't the only ones to suffer from it. Be very interesting to see how Laudrup approaches it. Do i want to be in Europe again next season? Course i do. Does Pardew? Course he does.

Ahh right yeah, I need the code too

How long until Bent turns out for Fulham then? Has he been training pre season?

who's been playing in defence for Chelsea pre season?

more changes

JW been playing pre season? I had him in at the start last season as he's great value if he plays.

Not sure about this one. Cazorla will get more points than Silva, but Sturridge is guaranteed first choice, whereas I think Lukaku may be rotated in and out. Is that based purely on Cazorla getting more minutes?

the fuck?

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Scouting our own players?

Yep, I know. Bale listed as out for a month on physioroom though.

Gazzaniga still gets me Cech, Davis Saylor, Clyne, Garrido, Ivanovic, Dawson Nolan, Silva, Mata, Walcott, Huddlestone Soldado, Bent, Lambert Will almost certainly try and get RVP back in before the end of the day

Dzeko likely to play much?

Considering ditching RVP for Soldado, would free up loads of funds but feel like it's a bit of a gamble.

Seriously?

Sums up my feelings

That ship has sailed tbh. I dont think so. We cant all sit here and piss and moan then ultimately do nothing about it. I'm not talking about a group effort but it would be interesting to see what people are doing as individuals. I think we will actually sign two more anyway, but would seriously consider my ticket if we bring in no one. Why would you give up something you've already paid for? Principles.

A budget which has bought a team full of Dutch, French, Italian, Argentinian & Senegalese internationals. Managed by a cheap manager, and every single one of them brought in because we thought we were getting them cheap, regardless of the needs of the squad.

go back to the Bobby Robson quote about the club. Nobody made Ashley buy us. Nobody said don't do due diligence or it won't be a good investment. But he can get to fuck if he thinks owning something that thousands of people are emotionally attached, and invested in does not bring with it a level of responsibility. He may be the owner but its more akin to an invasion. We shouldn't toe his line just because he had the money to purchase our club. I do agree with this to a certain extent, he has a responsibility to the club and the city. But how far that stretches in terms of practical things like player purchases is quite hard to say. As for Dave's post, nobody will be surprised I disagree with that. I don't see how you can possibly analyse the club's position and the players we can or can't buy unless you have an interest in the financial side. Otherwise you'd just be clamouring for us to sign everyone and wondering why we aren't competing with Man City. It's just part of modern football sadly. Why are you sad about it? You've already said you take pleasure in us making shrewd signings.

Who is saying we are dead clever? I think most people see the positives in our dealings as well as the pitfalls, right now those pitfalls are unfortunately shining through, in Jan it was very different. Liverpool are mugs for what they spent and brought in, or are they mugs to let Downing go for £6m now since he played in a match they won 6-0? It's one or the other. This is basically all anyone has ever claimed. I've never said our approach is the only one, I just see the positives in it. Certainly beats spunking money on the shite players we used to buy. Yep. It seems the Remy injury has tipped a few over the edge today, proper panic mode has set in...just pay whatever and buy whatever that's all that matters...spend spend spend. Like a bunch of women in a shoe shop. Oooh sparkly, two sizes too small but i've got to have them, now all i need is to buy everything else to match them. What the fuck are you on about man? We nearly got relegated and yet haven't bought a single player. How does it matter to you in the slightest whether a player costs £7m or £10m? Either is peanuts to a Premier League club in 2013. Are you not getting the part that we have a strict budget and won't go over it especially when the club owes Ashley £130m already thanks to the fat retard doing exactly what you want right now? Or do you want us to be more in debt to Ashley? Or blow budgets for the next few windows? Do you operate like that in your life? Just buy houses you can't afford, cars and insurance way above your pay? Nice living for about a year until reality kicks in. Transfers were moved forward in jan, we've spent a fair chunk of this windows money then and now we are looking to squeeze out the best deals and time is running out. That's why I care because come the next window and we need X player in X position we have fuck all money to do it with. Ashley isn't going to change, living within a budget is here to stay until he's gone, so blowing money is exactly the wrong thing to do under him as we will pay for it later. Even adding more debt to him lessens the chances we'll see him gone any time soon. Finally, the club hasn't done enough this season, but it could have all been sorted sacking the manager and bringing in a new face, most of our problems would have been solved right then rather than just buying more players for him to fuck up. What are you talking about man? We're a premier league club being run on a league one transfer budget. No-one's asking for the club to spend beyond it's means, we're asking for a fair level of investment befitting a club of our size and wealth.

Liverpool bring in a lot more money than us, they can afford to make mistakes to a point. Big mistakes like they've made won't put them out of business but they have pushed them further away from the CL and certainly any title ambitions. Had they spent that money wisely they'd be much better off. We can't not with our owner. Any mistake we make we are saddled with until the end of his contract, see Xisco or Smith, and since we nearly went down, any big mistake could cost us dearly. We are over cautious and it is frustrating but i was more frustrated at seeing Smith pick up £60kpw for doing nowt or even worse on the pitch being a liability. End of the day we all want us to sign more players, we all want a better team but spending money doesn't automatically equal better results and mistakes made we are lumbered with while spending over the top means we can't or simply won't spend next time round. You've got to consider this before saying oh aye, just chuck and extra couple of million at Gomis to make it happen...its nonsense even without our tight arse owner. Why is it nonsense? Nonsense is relying on Shola, again. We need some better footballers man, we need to pay clubs money for them and we need to pay them wages. We've got money, what's wrong with you people?