Dr Spectrum

I bet he can't wait to get back to Madrid after what happened last time he played there. I can imagine him at Villa if this Lerner bloke has got deep pockets.

He has all the ability in the world in possesion - I wouldn't say he was overrated in that sense. But there have been too many games where he has disappeared or been totally innefective popping up on the half way line. No football brain or just inexperience? I think he should have improved a lot more by now - Considering the development of Krustiano Ronaldo over the past few years. He's got to improve a whole lot before he's as good as he's made out but he has got in his locker for sure. So yes, for me, overrated. Plus, hes an ugly, perverted, foul mouthed, ill-disciplined, twat.

Plenty of top players got release when they were younger so what's your point? my point is that swp wasnt good enough for forest when he was 19 (or playing regularly for city) yet lennon is actually a pretty ****ing good player in the premiership and for england at world cup at same age. perhaps a comparison of them at a similar age might hold some relevance simpleton? At the same age SWP was a forward who was in and out of a very, very poor City side (We were relegated under Royle). He was an occasional bright spark but it wasn't the time to blood a youngster. He didn't really came into his own until was about 21. Thinking back he always had something about him. Always had pace and bags of skill (Far more than he's getting credit for here) but he didn't always show it. I would say Lennon looks a better player now than SWP did then - but the circumstances are different. He was playing in a shite side, Lennon is in a good side and the confidence levels are something else. But not as simple as to say Lennon is better at 19 so he'll be better at 25 - SWP has proved it, Lennon has a long way to go. of course he might not be better in long run, but chances are he will. one thing may set them apart is mentality. swp never really settled in england shirt for me. lennon fits straight in, at his debut he looked like hed been playing for years. I disagree with you there! SWP scored from the Half-way line within 10 minutes of first pulling on the shirt! And he I think he has looked lively at other times as well - For example the last time England played good football for a whole game (Poland) he was in the team - did alright in the recent game against Macedonia too. Lennon has done OK too tho...I remember Crouch nodding one in not too long ago. Niether have really had a chance tho. holland game sticks in my mind. he was the mutts for city at times, but england and chelsea seem a step too far. though you could prob argue he hasnt had full run at either, but if he had the inner belief maybe he would have taken his chance straight away and not given his managers an option to drop him? was a nice goal v ukraine though! lennon seems to have a confidence or even arrogance that arsenal and manu players have. will serve him well in the future. can see him at united in not too distant future. Ya he had a poor game that night - and has been underwhelming for Chelsea. Common factor? 4-3-3! Played for City in a 4-4-2 - Done alright for England in a 4-4-2. So obviously its everybodys fault but his when he doesn't have a good game bluebiggrin.gif

Plenty of top players got release when they were younger so what's your point? my point is that swp wasnt good enough for forest when he was 19 (or playing regularly for city) yet lennon is actually a pretty ****ing good player in the premiership and for england at world cup at same age. perhaps a comparison of them at a similar age might hold some relevance simpleton? At the same age SWP was a forward who was in and out of a very, very poor City side (We were relegated under Royle). He was an occasional bright spark but it wasn't the time to blood a youngster. He didn't really came into his own until was about 21. Thinking back he always had something about him. Always had pace and bags of skill (Far more than he's getting credit for here) but he didn't always show it. I would say Lennon looks a better player now than SWP did then - but the circumstances are different. He was playing in a shite side, Lennon is in a good side and the confidence levels are something else. But not as simple as to say Lennon is better at 19 so he'll be better at 25 - SWP has proved it, Lennon has a long way to go. of course he might not be better in long run, but chances are he will. one thing may set them apart is mentality. swp never really settled in england shirt for me. lennon fits straight in, at his debut he looked like hed been playing for years. I disagree with you there! SWP scored from the Half-way line within 10 minutes of first pulling on the shirt! And he I think he has looked lively at other times as well - For example the last time England played good football for a whole game (Poland) he was in the team - did alright in the recent game against Macedonia too. Lennon has done OK too tho...I remember Crouch nodding one in not too long ago. Niether have really had a chance tho.

Plenty of top players got release when they were younger so what's your point? my point is that swp wasnt good enough for forest when he was 19 (or playing regularly for city) yet lennon is actually a pretty ****ing good player in the premiership and for england at world cup at same age. perhaps a comparison of them at a similar age might hold some relevance simpleton? At the same age SWP was a forward who was in and out of a very, very poor City side (We were relegated under Royle). He was an occasional bright spark but it wasn't the time to blood a youngster. He didn't really came into his own until was about 21. Thinking back he always had something about him. Always had pace and bags of skill (Far more than he's getting credit for here) but he didn't always show it. I would say Lennon looks a better player now than SWP did then - but the circumstances are different. He was playing in a shite side, Lennon is in a good side and the confidence levels are something else. But not as simple as to say Lennon is better at 19 so he'll be better at 25 - SWP has proved it, Lennon has a long way to go.

mental.gif You mind telling me why he's been absolute rubbish for Chelsea then? That youtube stuff is useless btw. Luque is big in youtube you know. There is quite a difference between being rubbish for Chelsea and being worse than Dyer. And the YouTube stuff is pretty relevant considering its all from the Premiership - Altho I imagine most have seen enough with their own eyes to make their own judgements. SWP was around 15 or 16 when he left Forest nono.gif

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SWP is 25 this month, Lennon is still learning and is still 19 till next April. The end product will come in due course.............. and a lot less than 6 years. There have already been links with Spurs and SWP in the press, Lennon on the left and SWP on the right. Maybe it will happen, maybe not. I'm of the opinion that Lennon doesn't have it in his locker to reach the standards set by SWP when he was at City (Aged 21-23!). I don't think the raw skill factor is the same and I although they are of similar size they don't have the same frame...I can't see Lennon devoloping the same explosive power that let SWP thunder em in from all over the place You shouldn't be trying to convince me mate, talk to Mourinho. He's the one with misgivings about SWP's ability if he's prepared to let him go for £9m. Cheap at twice the price... Wouldn't dispute that when he's on the top of his game and he'll never get back there while he's at Chelsea. Arsenal would have been the obvious destination for him but I don't think they would be so keen to have him as they were a year or two ago. I'd be delighted if Spurs signed him, he's a class act. Just think you're underestimating Lennon's ability to live up to his potential. Maybe a little. But considering my boy has done f-all for himself over the past year I'll have to win this argument for him by belittling the other guy. Sorry. bluebiggrin.gif The reason he's done f-all is because he opted to take the money by agreeing the move to Chelsea. When Arsenal bid £16m for him he should have gone. Chelsea never wanted SWP, they just wanted to make sure Arsenal didn't get him. His career has suffered as a result and he missed the plane to the World Cup as a result. A SWP playing regularly would never have been behind Lennon in the pecking order at Lennon's current stage of development. Not that simple tho....City would never have accepted £16m for him. Chelsea were the only people with the money to make us say Yes, his options were somewhat limited and I don't think its fair to say he was in it for the money. He would have been great at Arsenal tho...that definelty would have been my preffered destination when the time came for him to go.

SWP is 25 this month, Lennon is still learning and is still 19 till next April. The end product will come in due course.............. and a lot less than 6 years. There have already been links with Spurs and SWP in the press, Lennon on the left and SWP on the right. Maybe it will happen, maybe not. I'm of the opinion that Lennon doesn't have it in his locker to reach the standards set by SWP when he was at City (Aged 21-23!). I don't think the raw skill factor is the same and I although they are of similar size they don't have the same frame...I can't see Lennon devoloping the same explosive power that let SWP thunder em in from all over the place You shouldn't be trying to convince me mate, talk to Mourinho. He's the one with misgivings about SWP's ability if he's prepared to let him go for £9m. Cheap at twice the price... Wouldn't dispute that when he's on the top of his game and he'll never get back there while he's at Chelsea. Arsenal would have been the obvious destination for him but I don't think they would be so keen to have him as they were a year or two ago. I'd be delighted if Spurs signed him, he's a class act. Just think you're underestimating Lennon's ability to live up to his potential. Maybe a little. But considering my boy has done f-all for himself over the past year I'll have to win this argument for him by belittling the other guy. Sorry. bluebiggrin.gif

SWP is 25 this month, Lennon is still learning and is still 19 till next April. The end product will come in due course.............. and a lot less than 6 years. There have already been links with Spurs and SWP in the press, Lennon on the left and SWP on the right. Maybe it will happen, maybe not. I'm of the opinion that Lennon doesn't have it in his locker to reach the standards set by SWP when he was at City (Aged 21-23!). I don't think the raw skill factor is the same and I although they are of similar size they don't have the same frame...I can't see Lennon devoloping the same explosive power that let SWP thunder em in from all over the place You shouldn't be trying to convince me mate, talk to Mourinho. He's the one with misgivings about SWP's ability if he's prepared to let him go for £9m. Cheap at twice the price...

SWP is 25 this month, Lennon is still learning and is still 19 till next April. The end product will come in due course.............. and a lot less than 6 years. There have already been links with Spurs and SWP in the press, Lennon on the left and SWP on the right. Maybe it will happen, maybe not. I'm of the opinion that Lennon doesn't have it in his locker to reach the standards set by SWP when he was at City (Aged 21-23!). I don't think the raw skill factor is the same and I although they are of similar size they don't have the same frame...I can't see Lennon devoloping the same explosive power that let SWP thunder em in from all over the place

Shaun Wright-Phillips is 10x the player Lennon will ever be. I know I'm not allowed to post links to youtube but just have a look on there for some of the goals he scored for City. Orgasmic. Lennon has a bit of pace to exite fans and worry defenses but where is the end product...? SWP was a 1 in 4 man here, what has Lennon got in his career? 3? Really I don't think there is one aspect of Lennon's game that I would rate higher than SWP's other than he's younger so will improve. Classic case of youngster doing well within pissing distance of Fleet Street and getting hyped to fook. PS: Anyone who disagrees with me, go to youtube, search for "Wright-Phillips" and watch the first video on the list. The goal at Old Trafford in there....wow

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7388/ruudxd4.jpg Dont think he meant that one! it was the funnier joke though Is that Ruud van Nistelrooy and Savo Milosevic?!? :shok: gay.gif

He is a good manager but I think he got it wrong in the summer transfer wise. Needed better than Pennant and Bellamy to move up to the next level.

Odious dirty ginger twat.

RvN has really gone up in my estimation over the past 6 months or so. Can't think why.....? Gudjohnsen was awful, no way is he "Gud" ( rimshot.gif ) enough for Barcelona.

yea in the space of 2 mins Nolan got sent off after 2nd one for apparently telling the ref he nearly cost them the game I dropped Reina and signed Jaaskelinen for my fantasy team this week. 18pts and hopefully a bonus to come! bluebiggrin.gif Bizarre watching Reading-Arsenal. Team we beat absolute massacering a team who beat us. Football can be bizarre sometimes.

Personally I would touch niether Bramble nor Carr with a 10ft Clown Pole. But considering some of Stuart Pearce's recent desicions he would probably take that...! Unfortunately I doubt he reads this forum so you'll probably have to try a little harder to offload all the assorted shite currently masquerading as the Newcastle defence.

Excellent young english defender, ok maybe you could give us a little bit of cash aswell but he isn't completely out of reach tongue.gif Sorry, its magic beans or nothing.

Part-Ex with Bramble? Have a word with yourself. mental.gif

He makes the odd mistake - Who doesn't? Bit harsh to class him as "prone". All-in-all he is a tremendous player and I'm gutted that he's off.

No he's not. Class act. Yes it will - Contracts up. No he isn't - Dunne is. Currently I'm of the opinion that if we cash in Distin in January we'll be relegated. Got a sneak preview of life without him yesterday - Not looking forward to half a season of that.

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Wow, I remember these. City were the first club to have these things done - I'm suprised they've sold enough to be able to expand to other clubs. Remember a guy from the company coming onto a City forum spamming these shitty things, sprouting off how good they were trying to get people to buy em - But people were just going onto the site, checking the previews and downloading them thru temporary internet files and USB onto their phones for nowt. The guy was absolutely staggered that anyone had managed to "hack" his site...Soon changed his tune when half the forum's avatars turned into Samaras ball juggling. Absolute shite...Gobsmacked they're not bankrupt by now.

Be fair mate - We're worse than that. 4-0 and more to come. Pathetic. We've got 4 strikers on the pitch - the 2 best ones are out on the wings and we've got two journeymen plodders up front. Pearce is ****ing Clueless. he's the same as roeder, had a canny run, people got carried away but at the end the day, neither are up to it, pearce has time though, roeder doesnt Stuart Pearce will be out of a job before Glen Roeder. He won't last till Christmas. Wouldn't be suprised if he didn't last the day. PEARCE OUT blueupset.gif