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Why are all managers so loving to mess with other players' wives? Bryan Robson, Martin Allen, Alan Pardew ..

Do you think it is a good move for Leicester to appoint Martin Allen ahead of Neil Warnock? Personally think Neil Warnock should have got the job instead. Can't see him managing any club soon now that all the clubs vacancies have been taken up. Man City will never go for him either. Martin Allen seems to have a decent CV but I know nothing more about him. Anyone cares to elaborate please?

There is no ITK in this thread (as yet), and to be fair I haven't seen any ITK Liverpool info in this forum yet. Of course unless you count the ITK Liverpool first hand knowledge, that every scouser is a thief, bin-dipper, murderer, deluded supporters etc. I just want to engage in decent normal football discussion.

Patience is a virtue (as long as you have the right manager) - Alex Ferguson, David Moyes, Arsene Wenger, Sam Allardyce (Bolton), Alan Curbishley (chalrton), Steve Coppell, Bobby Robson.

This is a football forum mate. If you don't care (i fully respect your decision) you could ignore the thread.

More instability? A new manager (not guaranteed of Benitez's quality), whole new lots of players = more money wasted.

Gerard Houllier

The Guardian Anyone for us? John Arne Riise will do fine for us. Despite all the media analysis I still think he has a future in Anfield. Benitez has gone out to search for a new right back (Arbeloa, Neill, Alves), but after getting Aurelio Riise hasn't been squeezed out from the team yet. Zenden on a free anyone? He could be a good attacking midfielder like he was for Boro a few years ago.

The Independent Josemi, Malaga, £2m - Failure, but no much loss. Garcia, Barcelona, £6m - Success Alonso, Real Sociedad, £10.5m - Success Morientes, Real Madrid, £6.3m - Failure Reina, Villarreal, £6m - Success Mark Gonzalez, Albacete, £4.5m - Failure Mohamed Sissoko, Valencia, £5.6m - Moderate success/failure Peter Crouch, Southampton, £7m - Success Daniel Agger, Brondby, £5.8m - Success Bellamy, Blackburn, £6m - Failure Pennant, Birmingham, £6.7m - Failure Kuyt, Feyenoord, £9m - Jury still out Arbeloa, Deportivo, £2.6m - Jury still out. Mascherano, West Ham, £1.5m* - Success An average net spending of 15 M £ per year. Not too much not too little just nice I think, especially given their runs in various cups.

The Guardian Had Liverpool secured Dani Alves, they wouldn't have suffered the inconsistency of Jermaine Pennant. Had they signed Simao Sabrosa, they wouldn't have needed to play the ineffective Zenden on the left. And they wouldn't need to gamble on Gonzalez. Had they got Nemanja Vidic, they wouldn't need Agger who is younger, less ready and more a gamble. Though Agger is an excellent defender so they haven't missed much. Gabriel Milito - see aobve. Theo Walcott, Abou Diaby and Denilson are all young talents destined for big things. I think this does go on and prove that for top teams aspiring for titles, quality cannot be sacrificed for quantity. Man Utd suffered this not so long ago when they signed a plethora of young flops. They have learned the lesson and decide solely on qualities and bring in the likes of Ronaldo, Rooney, Evra, Vidic, Carrick, and now Hargreaves. Liverpool are now learning the lesson, finally, while Wenger has realised this long ago and decide to gamble alltogether on quality kids instead of paying huge sums for not so top quality players who won't bring them lasting success. Jose Mourinho justs goes out and spend and spend for both quality and quantity. In 3 years time who will be top of the league? It would be trully interesting. PS As much as I like Benitez I think he should complain less about the restriction of funds. He is the manager and he should work wonder (big ask I know). The club can't go on and spend infinitely too. If there is a limit tough luck but he can console himself he has done very well. Their side haven't been outplayed in the Champions League final.

And Parker. Makelele would command huge wages no doubt. WOuld rather the money spent elsewhere such as defence and forward.

How can him not be an evil bastardo after so many derisory remarks he has made, or misdeeds he has done? Get well FFS (reluctantly)

Rare decent point. You two are joking, aren't you? Ever since the takeover speculation started a few months ago, he's behaved a complete arse. He made it clear that he wasn't going to sell no matter what the offer, thereby putting his own wishes above the interests of the club. He wanted to obstruct a takeover, hoping that he'd then be able to get the Halls' shares on the cheap. He has shown no respect for Sir John Hall (who let's face it is the architect of the modern club), the fans or the club. And you're saying that SJH should have waited till he'd recovered from his cracked rib? This. SJH has the freedom to do the deal anytime he wishes. It makes no difference even if the deal is done when FFS is well and shagging about. Well unless he threatens to do physical harm to SJH has him been well, which in this case justifies the timing of the deal even more.

How could he loves the toon so much when he has derided the toon publicly so many times?

Good shout. When I have seen he has played CB or DM/CM not sure what he would be like at RB but he looks like has bit about him. We have signed the likes O'B & Bramble from clubs who have went down before & it hasn't worked out long term. He won't be short of suitor as a centre back or defensive midfielder. I doubt he would want to relegate himself to a full back. He should go to Everton as replacement for the aging Carsley and Stubb.

Andy Todd is better off to Sunderland.

Primus would be too clumsy and slow as a full back.

NO ! Anyway it is unlikely he would like to move to a place he dislikes so much.

Billy Davies like to play 1 up front with Steve Howard only. I doubt that Carroll will get many chances in Derby. Lupoli didn't feature too frequently despite having a more prodigious pedigree than Caroll. But Carroll could learn a lot from Howard as the latter is a very good target man (at Championship level)

Shepherd has publicly 1. Called geordie woman dogs 2. Indulged himself at profits made on stupid fans buying overpriced jerseys. 3. Stated he is in the NUFC as a businessman wanting to mkae mega profits just like Glazer What's your jedgement on Shepehrd?

1. Would Benitez be clueless if by the looks of the first half they could have won this? 2. Liverpool are very much in contention throuought the whole match, even outperforming Milan. They were unlucky to concede a handball goal, and got further punished when they bring in Crouch for Mascherano for more attacking threat. 3. How, in your opinions, could Benitez have done significantly better?

LOL Kitman son!

But the sheer bittrnesss towards Spurs shown here don't make you sick?

Would love to hear where you got the information from? I don't think they are the 2nd highest spender after Chelsea, and the make a lot of money selling players too. My own research 2006/2007 In Didier Zokora - 8.2M Dimitar Berbatov - 10.9M Mido - 4.5M Steed Malbranque - 2M Pascal Chimbonda - 6M Ben Alnwick - 900K Ricardo Rocha - 3.3M Benoît Assou-Ekotto - 3.5M Total - 34.8M Out Stephen Kelly - 750K Gregory Rasiak - 2M Michael Carrick - 18.6M Andy Reid - 3M Marton Fullop - 500K Calum Davenport - 3M Total - 27.85M 2005/2006 Out Simon Davi Pedro Mendez es - 4M Noe Pamarot, Sean Davies, Pedro Mendez - 7.5M In Danny Murphy - 2M Lee Yong Pyo - ??- 2M Teemu Taino - Free Paul Stalteri - Free Jermaine Jenas - 7M Aaron Lennon - 1M 2004/2005 In Paul Robinson - 1.5M Jermaine Defoe - 7M Pedro Mendes - 2M Sean Davies - ?? Noe Paramot - 1.75M Michael Dawson + Michael Brown - 8M

We spent a lot more money. We had more time. We were in much better position before Shepherd took over (as compared to other new current aspiring chairman)