KaKa

I think he'll be okay.

Just some discomfort as his body adjusts to being back at it after a long time out.

He probably just panicked when he felt something, and it was right to bring him off, just in case.

I did think he looked pretty comfortable on the bench when they showed him sitting there with the ice on his thigh.

If he had disappeared down the tunnel and not re-emerged that would have been a very bad sign.

Just now, stozo said:

I think you are probably overestimating our pull here. Osimhen has just gone to Saudi in exactly the scenario you've outlined - Chelsea made him a very good offer, he could have stayed in Europe but at the end of the day the money he has been offered in Saudi is so great he's gone there. 

It's not the same for every player.

Osimhen has been holding out for Arsenal all summer, but they opted against the move.

He actually accepted the move to Chelsea, but their new wage structure is lower than even what he was getting at Napoli, and so he refused what was essentially a wage cut. He's a top tier striker and so won't agree to go down in money, and they wouldn't even match his Napoli wages.

Simakan was on 30k and so it's a completely different scenario.

3 minutes ago, Lotus said:

Yeah, I agree with many on here. Why we haven’t switched approach to finding a young player, only needs to be better than Krafth (at his unfavoured position) and develop them.

Same for RW. Can’t be hard to find players with more potential than Murphy. Develop them, developing players is meant to be the thing EH is best at.

This is what I think we should have done.

Get a major young talent to sit behind Schar and be brought along. Give Schar a one year extension.

This insistence on a game changer for the first team is so strange.

2 minutes ago, stozo said:

Who is going to Al Nassr and will presumably be paid somewhere north of £250k pw. So a total non-starter. 

I read an article yesterday saying he was hoping for a Premier League move.

He was on 30k a week at Leipzig. If we pay him around a 100k he's staying in Europe.

Saudi will still be there for these guys to make some extra money later down the line. 

A lot of them would rather continue in Europe while they are still young.

5 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Fair enough.

Yeah, sounding more like players we were after just didn't pan out.

I think missing out on Europe could really have done us in this summer.

As well as missing out on that dummy Tosin, who by the way, further disgraced himself last night losing to Servette in Switzerland.

13 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I know not everyone will like what we've done but that seems a sensible and honest response. Hardly a suggestion of an internal power struggle between Mitchell and Howe, either. 

It does seem that they may well be in agreement on who they go after i.e. a few they think will be difference makers, and Mitchell is backing Eddie on that.

However, I really hope we can evolve past this going forward because it is only slowing down our progress.

Could maybe still see this happening once Palace confirm the centre backs they are bringing in.

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

I don’t think so, he gets team news right now and again.

Okay. Well, something to hope for I guess.

Even a young talent in Minteh's mould, to replace him, would be a decent addition.

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

It’s because Joel Bland mentioned him yesterday.

Is Joel Bland a serious person? Can't remember.

Nuamah would essentially be a Minteh replacement. Similar profile.

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

That’s doing the rounds on twitter 

Damn ...

4 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

Or Gomez to Palace.......... 

3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Gomez in a part ex to Liverpool feels more likely atm

Could see this too to be fair 

22 minutes ago, Kanji said:

@KaKa good post and points mate. 

I know it's not the most positive man, and to be fair I'm still hoping that it's okay between Howe and Mitchell and things work out.

Just seems like a potentially delicate situation. Fingers crossed it's all alright in the end.

I've loved Eddie's work, and he's so good working with players that aren't even the most talented. Would hope he could be a bit more open minded with players brought in.

Let's see what happens.

1 hour ago, duo said:

 

See my ITK source was true 

Transfer request from Guehi tomorrow is what I'm guessing. Or at least making it clear he wants to go.

I used to wonder if Sky Sports struck deals with certain clubs to run a deadline day saga each year.

Even though they already knew the deal was essentially done.

If there's a big fuss around Guehi tomorrow before he then moves to us, I will be even further convinced.

1 minute ago, CallumG6 said:

Deeney couldn’t find his arse with both hands the clown. 

Clinton Morrison also seemed certain of it the other day. 

Some of these ex players do tend to hear this stuff direct from source.

2 minutes ago, gdm said:

It’d be a decent signing but bringing in another keeper and no CH or RW it wouldn’t half rile a few up

Yeah, I know. And that's unfortunate really.

Looking at it completely separately from all that though, I like the move.

I like this move, and have no problem with it at all.

Talented young goalie being brought along behind Pope is good planning.

Old man Ruddy as the third keeper and wise old head.

4 minutes ago, gdm said:

How would it? The issue appears to be that Howe has identified Guehi and That’s it. Mitchell has other options. Getting Guehi now only means Howe Got his way doesn’t prove that there is no issues 

I think getting him his top target this first window is far more likely to lead to better things later on.

If this whole thing falls apart at the first hurdle due to disagreements behind the scenes, it's going to be a huge mess.

2 minutes ago, McCormick said:

Yeah, Parish is a cartel 6 shill and a pillock to boot. This isn’t getting done imo. If that report is true and he’s moving goalposts this late in the game then it’s not a goer.

After that first interview I wanted out immediately!

Knew he was on some BS right then and there.

1 hour ago, jack j said:

 

Atletico fans with gallagher and now napoli with mctominay

 

They're easily pleased these foreigners

This is so cool for all these guys man. Makes me laugh so much 

I'd be really happy for this to happen now.

If only because it will point to things being well behind the scenes.

If we end up having some major fallout and having to change manager it will be devastating for the current bunch of players I think.

6 minutes ago, ATB said:

Extremely well put. Can only say that I feel the same way about the situation. Can't see it ending well and since the club seems to be going in one direction, it's quite obvious who will lose that battle.

I know ...

It's so crazy because with all this coming up now, I couldn't help but recall what the Bournemouth fan @cherryred said on here a good three years ago, before there was even any hint of unrest.

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One thing I'm really interested in is how he deals with your board. At Bournemouth he was known for being a control freak and pretty much directly oversaw all aspects of the club (think SAF at man u or Wenger at Arsenal), and one of the rumoured reasons why he left when we went down was that our board tried to change some of that and he basically walked. I'm not sure how this will translate to your current circumstance and how much Eddie has chnaged in this regard over his long break from football, as his obsessiveness and full effort definitely contributed to his downfall at the end of his time with us.

3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

If we were actually in for him (which I don't think was ever confirmed), maybe he didn't want to sign for us

 

This is a fair point, though I can't imagine it being the case really.

But maybe we have others in mind, or will just be sitting tight. Guess we'll see soon enough. 

4 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

This season is quickly going down the shitter, like.

 

Not because I don't have faith in this squad and coach, but because these rumours of what happened during this window will swirl atleast until January. It's gonna fuck up our efforts on the pitch. There's already a shift of perception of Howe on here, and despite the daily bickering, this forum lean toward the patient side of our fanbase - so fuck knows how the daft support will take it. 

 

 

 

 

The thing is I don't think any less of Howe, but if he has a particular way of working and it doesn't marry up with the direction the club is trying to go ... then a certain result is inevitable.

Guess we'll see what happens. Certainly won't be turning on him, or getting on his back or anything. I still want him to do well, but the signs don't look too great. I'm no longer certain his position is that secure.

28 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

Sound

45 million Euros for goodness sake.

This is a disaster for us man. Passed up on so many really good options.

10 minutes ago, Kanji said:

Starting to clearly tell a tone shift in posters here who want to see a new CB or winger here over respecting the work of Eddie Howe over the last 2.5 seasons. 

Kanji man ...

This is so much bigger than just these two signings at this point.

However, it does seem to be exposing an issue in the way our structure has been put in place.

Once we had Amanda and Mehdrad bring Howe in before a DOF and allow him the freedom to run the recruitment, the precedent was set.

In actuality, the only way this whole thing would have worked is if the owners gave a contract to Amanda and Mehdrad to continue to run things, and perhaps promoted Nickson to DOF as he was already working in tandem with Howe regarding recruitment.

Ashworth has since come in and there have been issues there, with some not so ideal transfer decisions during that period. We tried for Freedman who seemed keen, but that fell through, and now you have to wonder if he heard something he didn't like during the process. Mitchell supposedly turned the role down first time around, until we went back to him and supposedly gave him more say over things.

Mitchell then comes in, and Howe's initial reaction was very tense, and stated concerns about being allowed to work how he had been previously. However, that was under Amanda and Mehdrad, who gave him final say on all matters, and supposedly isolated Ashworth. That didn't look like it was going to be allowed to continue with Amanda and Mehdrad now having left.

Howe has maintained we are shopping from a small pool of players, which I always found odd. But fine, if he states his preferences being from that pool. However, any difficulties with getting those players, and the DOF has to be allowed to move for alternatives.

It's looking like this is a huge issue though, and if so, I just don't see how it can continue.

It is going to be impossible for the DOF to put a plan in place without the cooperation from his manager/head coach.

If by tomorrow we have some other targets come in instead, then that would be a huge relief, and would point towards a more collaborative way of working that could come together over time.

If not though, I think we have a problem that is going to come to a head.