KaKa

I have to say I agree with you completely coach. I personally love the idea of taking a punt on a few of these guys, especially as they cost next to nothing.

Beckford from the little I have seen of him appears to have some impressive attributes, especially considering his height and stature.

In Keegan we also have a manager who excels in getting the best out of people especially when it comes to instilling some confidence in them and so it would suit us quite well.

Not saying we should sign him, but I don't think these types of players should be dismissed so quickly.

That goal he scored for Scunthorpe that won goal of the season was unbelievable and Christiano Ronaldo would have been very proud of a goal like that. Outrageous skill.

It's only in the last 10 years or so the number of foreign players has got out of hand. The league managed to survive and be a lot more competitive than it is today for over 100 years with hardly any foreign players.

Yeah, but that was before we knew what we were missing out on! We've been spoiled.

Probably means we will be holding on to the likes of Alan Smith, Duff and Shola this summer.

I'm ecstatic!!!

this will well and truely f*** up the sides below the big 4. Cocks!

Not really, I'd say it harms the top 4 more than anyone else.

 

well say it was in use this season, that means that 120 of the starting players would have to be english, 24 of which would be playing in the top 4. while barry, bently and such can just about be kept by villa and blackburn now, they'd be guarenteed first team football in the top 4, so would be off in a flash. the top4 would really need an english player for every position, and a couple others, so thats say 14, so we could end up with a situation where the 56 best english players are at top 4 clubs, leaving the rest of us to scrape the bottom of the barrell. england has a smaller area than the other european main leagues to capture players, so it would affect us the worst. and the value of an enlgish player, already overvalued, would take another hike.

 

you look at how lower league teams struggle to keep promising youngsters now, how bad will that problem be then?

 

i assume players like geremi would be ok, as he has english citizenship i think, after being in the country for 5 years. this could lead to exactly what uefa detest, big teams poaching players from the youth systems of smaller sides, and if english clubs managed to do this early enough, they could poach young italians at age 14 who would be english citizens by age 19, and would, i think then be able to play for our national team? (see cudicini).

 

it fucks up the top 4 as well, but they'll just react buy buying all the good english talent out there, and we'll be f***ed.

Exactly! With all the good English players gone to the top 4 and with other clubs being forced to feature so many English players they would all be stuck with some extremely average players in their first teams.

Fancy having to play someone that is average or just sucks just because they are British?!

Even worse is the fact that this will make British youngsters even lazier as they will be even less motivated to really push themselves to make it. They will only do so much knowing they had a place set aside for them automatically.

Somewhere on Tyneside Taylor and Milner celebrate wildly ...

The outlash on this page is amazing.

 

Frustration ...

 

KD is on here enough to know that peopel are on edge right now. The last thing anyone wants to hear about is how Dunne isn't good enough for Spurs.

 

Honestly, the cheek of the man. Begging for tongue lashing imo.

 

Isnt good enough for spurs? stop putting words in my mouth.

 

 

I dont want Dunne because (as i mentioned before), a dunne-woodgate partnership wouldnt work imo. They dont compliment eachother one bit, and a pacey striker would have a field day.

 

 

You think Woody and Dunne are similar players?

 

Alrighty then ...

 

Woody has more than enough pace by the way, and they would in fact compliment each other quite brilliantly.

 

 

There you go putting words in my mouth again (you just cant help yourself can you).

 

With Kings injury record, we need a more pacey cb to compliment Woody. Im sure you're remembering the Woodgate of old (newcastle days), but at spurs he's been shown up for his lack of pace a few times (altough he's been very good altogether). Technically Woodgate is on another level to Dunne but their lack of pace will see them get caught out imo.

 

 

Oh and cheers James

Fair enough, I thinky you're wrong though. So if you do sign Dunne and he and Woodgate form a great partnership don't go changing you're name to Kingdunne or anything silly like that.

The outlash on this page is amazing.

 

Frustration ...

 

KD is on here enough to know that peopel are on edge right now. The last thing anyone wants to hear about is how Dunne isn't good enough for Spurs.

 

Honestly, the cheek of the man. Begging for tongue lashing imo.

 

Isnt good enough for spurs? stop putting words in my mouth.

 

 

I dont want Dunne because (as i mentioned before), a dunne-woodgate partnership wouldnt work imo. They dont compliment eachother one bit, and a pacey striker would have a field day.

You think Woody and Dunne are similar players?

Alrighty then ...

Woody has more than enough pace by the way, and they would in fact compliment each other quite brilliantly.

cyber thugging isnt really funny imo. Anyone can just type "f*** you" after a comment.

 

Neither is trolling so fuk off.

 

 

 

Trolling?. Do you need to involve yourself in everything? do you get off on it or something?

 

Yes you are a troll.

 

Involved in everything? What posting on a forum about the team i support?

 

What's your excuse?

 

Ermmmm isnt everyone else here a Newcastle fan (bar a select few). No one except your sad self CONSTANTLY tries to have a go , or involves themselves in things for no apparant reason. Did you get the sack or something?

 

What's the name of this particular thread?? I posted my opinion on a matter involving spurs so hit some weights little man .

 

KD you are pretty irritating to be fair.

 

You'll be the first one one here talking about how Dunne is the best defender in the league after he has a couple of decent games for you.

 

Just chill out.

 

 

Sorry TT, Kaka is another one that seems to try and have a go too (altough his subtle and diplomatic tone in this particular post may say otherwise)

 

 

You said this before (bigging up Woodgate after a few games) but most people on here knew i wasnt doing what you tried to imply so they called you out on it (i'll dig up the thread if you want).

 

 

As for little man (tt), Iv'e said time and time again that i dont want Dunne so whats the big deal? am i suddenly meant to change my tune and 'big him up' just because some of you want him at Newcastle? get over yourself ffs.

I have grown accustomed to you I guess. I used to think you were a major WUM, but have since realised you just can't help yourself.

Just think before you post stuff or try to do a better job of expressing your thoughts. Some of the stuff you "share " with us you might want to keep to Spurs messageboards.

The outlash on this page is amazing.

Frustration ...

KD is on here enough to know that peopel are on edge right now. The last thing anyone wants to hear about is how Dunne isn't good enough for Spurs.

Honestly, the cheek of the man. Begging for tongue lashing imo.

cyber thugging isnt really funny imo. Anyone can just type "f*** you" after a comment.

 

Neither is trolling so fuk off.

 

 

 

Trolling?. Do you need to involve yourself in everything? do you get off on it or something?

 

Yes you are a troll.

 

Involved in everything? What posting on a forum about the team i support?

 

What's your excuse?

 

Ermmmm isnt everyone else here a Newcastle fan (bar a select few). No one except your sad self CONSTANTLY tries to have a go , or involves themselves in things for no apparant reason. Did you get the sack or something?

 

What's the name of this particular thread?? I posted my opinion on a matter involving spurs so hit some weights little man .

KD you are pretty irritating to be fair.

You'll be the first one one here talking about how Dunne is the best defender in the league after he has a couple of decent games for you.

Just chill out.

Some ticket prices are a joke. If you're a new applicant to ST's at Leeds the cheapest adult ticket (not in family area) is £440.

For league one football?!!! That is mental.

Ash how much is a season ticket at Arsenal by the way?

We haven't signed anyone? 

Nor has anyone else.  A few clubs have agreed to sign players once the transfer window opens in 4 weeks, but that number is very small. 

 

Not having an insight into the working operations of our annoying little gnome of a Director (football) or whatever he has stencilled on the door of whatever toadstool he is using as an office, i'm unaware of how much work he (and indeed the rest of the scouting team) have or have not put into making enquiries about players.

 

We know that we were in for Modric, and Spurs beat us to his agreement to sign, but other than that, there's very little concrete information about anyone. 

 

I'm also hoping that we get a little more transfer action this summer than we have seen recently, but you can't honestly expect that every hour of every day is devoted to transfers?

 

Let's play along, and take a look into the possibilities of where he could have been on that night?

 

<results from skysports.com>

20 May 08 - Tues 
Turkey		1 - 0	Slovakia
Scotland U21	1 - 4	Norway U21
Dundalk		0 - 0	Longford Town
Limerick F.C.	1 - 3	Sporting Fingal
Shelbourne	2 - 0	Monaghan Utd
Waterford	1 - 1	Athlone Town
       
21 May 08 - Wed 
Manchester United	1 - 1	Chelsea
Man Utd win 6-5 on penalties
      
22 May 08 - Thu 
Ivory Coast	1 - 1	Paraguay
Dundee United	0 - 1	Celtic
Aberdeen		2 - 0	Rangers
Hibernian		0 - 2	Motherwell

 

Hmm, there's no other match that night.  Maybe Tony Jiminez was at the Ivory Coast match the following day. I'm not sure, i didn't catch it, but there's not a huge amount of other matches taking place.

 

Maybe Wise was discussing the transfer of SWP to newcastle over a stolichnoya with Abramovich in a nice restaurant before the Champs League Final.  Maybe he was discussing the purchase of Christopher Eagles from Man Utd. We don't know.

 

Until we see who we've bought, who we've gone in for, and who we've missed out on, I'll reserve judgement on whether he could have spent 3 hours on a wednesday night in a better fashion for the benefit of our club.

 

 

 

 

Oh dear ... another ITK wannabe.

 

SWP and Chris Eagles is it? Yeah, yeah believe it when I see it pal.

 

 

I reckon you've missed the point of his post entirely. Or maybe I have.

 

I know who my money's on though. 

Whooooooosh!

I was just messing with him 

Meanwhile, another player that United have been alerted about is French international right-back Sidney Govou.

 

Govou has played almost 300 games for Lyon and has 31 caps and seven goals for his country.

 

Yet with United well served in that position due to Habib Beye’s sparkling performances last term, a move for Govou is unlikely.

 

That is so embarrassing it's untrue. How can this happen do people not look over this guys work for goodness sake.

We haven't signed anyone? 

Nor has anyone else.  A few clubs have agreed to sign players once the transfer window opens in 4 weeks, but that number is very small. 

 

Not having an insight into the working operations of our annoying little gnome of a Director (football) or whatever he has stencilled on the door of whatever toadstool he is using as an office, i'm unaware of how much work he (and indeed the rest of the scouting team) have or have not put into making enquiries about players.

 

We know that we were in for Modric, and Spurs beat us to his agreement to sign, but other than that, there's very little concrete information about anyone. 

 

I'm also hoping that we get a little more transfer action this summer than we have seen recently, but you can't honestly expect that every hour of every day is devoted to transfers?

 

Let's play along, and take a look into the possibilities of where he could have been on that night?

 

<results from skysports.com>

20 May 08 - Tues 
Turkey		1 - 0	Slovakia
Scotland U21	1 - 4	Norway U21
Dundalk		0 - 0	Longford Town
Limerick F.C.	1 - 3	Sporting Fingal
Shelbourne	2 - 0	Monaghan Utd
Waterford	1 - 1	Athlone Town
       
21 May 08 - Wed 
Manchester United	1 - 1	Chelsea
Man Utd win 6-5 on penalties
      
22 May 08 - Thu 
Ivory Coast	1 - 1	Paraguay
Dundee United	0 - 1	Celtic
Aberdeen		2 - 0	Rangers
Hibernian		0 - 2	Motherwell

 

Hmm, there's no other match that night.  Maybe Tony Jiminez was at the Ivory Coast match the following day. I'm not sure, i didn't catch it, but there's not a huge amount of other matches taking place.

 

Maybe Wise was discussing the transfer of SWP to newcastle over a stolichnoya with Abramovich in a nice restaurant before the Champs League Final.  Maybe he was discussing the purchase of Christopher Eagles from Man Utd. We don't know.

 

Until we see who we've bought, who we've gone in for, and who we've missed out on, I'll reserve judgement on whether he could have spent 3 hours on a wednesday night in a better fashion for the benefit of our club.

 

 

 

Oh dear ... another ITK wannabe.

SWP and Chris Eagles is it? Yeah, yeah believe it when I see it pal.

Someone's got to pay Samir Nasri's wages right?

Ive met him a couple of times, he was my cousin's ex's roommate (beat that Martin Jol), just after he signed for Leeds. He was a right pretty boy, and really up his own arse. Would be another Dyer or Carl Cort if he came here.

 

Only seen clips of him as a player, scored some cracking goals, albeit in League 1. Scored loads aswell, althought its probably because he's in a Leeds side who are a class above the rest of League 1 imo.

Hmmm ... kind of dissapointing to hear. So many young british players seem to get held back by this attitude unfortunately. The guy was on Chelseas books at one point wasn't he? But somehow ended up in non-league football before making it back into League one.

If only more of these guys had the right attitude. When you look at someone like Theo Walcott you just know it is likely to work out really well for him because he just seems to have his head on right.

No,no,no.

That's a really good Amy Winehouse impression.

Care to share some thoughts on the actual thread topic though?

So you haven't actually seen enough of him but still think he can't be any worse than Shola & Smith? Another KaKa classic, Jesus wept.

Let me put it this way ... I have seen enoguh to know that he has some serious pace and more ability with the ball at his feet than Shola and Smith combined. Considering he is also about 6 ft 2 it's an interesting range of skills he has. I haven't seen enough of him over a full 90 to know what his commitment and attitude are like though.

Smith and Shola in my opinion just don't have much you can work with. No pace, no skill, no presence ... absoultely nothing.

Those are the facts.

We have been linked with Jermaine Beckford again, as was the case during the January transfer window.

Could he be Keegan's Andy Cole version 2008?

I really haven't seen enough of the guy but I'm sure quite a lot on here have. Anyone care to share? What is his  game all about? Would he be worth bringing in on the cheap, along with another striker, as a wild card to see if he can develop into something?

Surely he can't be worse than either Shola or Smith and therefore could at the very least be a decent backup.

Thoughts?

I like Dunne but I am intrigued by Cuellar. I think I would prefer to see him at Newcastle. He seems to have a bit of class about him, while Dunne is a bit more similar to Faye.

 

Agree although given the choice i would like Dunne and Cuellar to be or CB pairing

Yeah, this would probably be the best situation for us. However, Faye has been solid enough and Taylor probably deserves a bit more time to get his act together, so one new centre back should suffice for now.

I like Dunne but I am intrigued by Cuellar. I think I would prefer to see him at Newcastle. He seems to have a bit of class about him, while Dunne is a bit more similar to Faye.

Why would the new deal not be announced though? Aren't these kinds of things typically announced by the club?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_city/article4009678.ece

Absolutely mental that Man City are able to sign such quality players with no manager decided upon for next season!

We really have no excuses this summer. We better land some quality players.

I had to post this From a youtube compilation:

 

macjakedom (1 hour ago) Shut up you prick Gallatasaray are s**** they play in a s**** league that is why the qualify for europe every year. IF I AM HONEST NEWCASTLE UNITED ARE TO BIG FOR ARDA NO PLAYER IS BIGGER THEN YOUR CLUB NO MATTER WHO IT IS YOU PRICK.

 

 

azinasicim (11 hours ago)

newcastle united is not a big team enough to buy Arda.. a player like Arda Turan must be stupid to leave Gala for Newcastle..

:lol:

Such angst! Freakin' brilliant.

If this is true this place is going to be absolutely mental, and I would kind of understand why tbh. What the hell is going on?