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Is Garay good on the ball? i.e. a ball playing type of centre back? Because we could do with one of those if we bring a centre back in.

Cool. Well I guess we'll see what happens. I'd be surprised about Jesus Navas because he's got serious issues when it comes to being away from home. He has violent anxiety attacks and stuff.

Not surprised at all - watched the recording, and they played as well as any team I've seen play Liverpool at Anfield ; very competitive, always after the second ball(one of our biggest failings) and very unlucky not to have won - are all the knockers ready to surrender about MON yet !?? STILL think Allardyce is better !!..... I thought we played as poorly as we have all season in the first half last night, but were much better in the second. One thing I love is that we've got incredible team spirit. I never think we're going to lose matches, and I don't think the players do either. If we can strengthen in this window then Europe could be on. We have now only lost one away match since February 2007 - if we avoid defeat at Fulham on Feb 3rd, that will be one away loss in an entire year. Impressive. Considering the fact that you didn't have your best player Barry, I thought it was an incredible performance. Especially as Petrov wasn't all that great. Petrov could be so much better if he would just do things a tad quicker and not linger on the ball for that extra second. I think you guys would have done even better if you had put Gardener in the middle at some point and replaced Petrov with Maloney. Maloney didn't even come on though. Can't believe MON is till fumbling around in the transfer market You guys could be so much better if he just made some moves.

On the cards? Where did you hear this?

Beckham in centre midfield, why not? I could see it happening, but convincing the Yanks would be a problem.

Riise is one of many Liverpool players who has struggled for consistency of late as Rafa has rotated him to death. Still only 27 and I think a change of scenery would be good for him. We only have one left back at the club and therefore Riise would be a good addition.

Riise taking all our set pieces alone will make us twice the team we are.

Just been having a conversation about Gerrard along these lines. I don't think he does enough with the ball at his feet. Doesn't go past people enough and only really drives forward witht he ball if he gets it on a counter attack. Other than that he plays too many long passes and passes the ball off to quickly, too often for my liking. Still a top player mind you ... but certainly not in the same bracket as the type of players you have mentioned.

Taye Taiwo was born for the premier league. Can't believe no one's gone for him yet.

Um ... yeah that's his game. His passing of the ball is excellent. Is this a joke?

I think there's something in the Carrick rumour. I think he's coming home people. Anderson's progress has been quicker than they anticipated and with Hargreaves, Scholes and even the likes of Fletcher and O'Shea still on the books they would let him go. Weren't they sniffing around for Masherano too? If we gave them the money they paid for Carrick they could probably nick Mascherano off Liverpool.

I'm almost a 100% certain that we will sign Nedum Onuoha from Man City as Keegan liked him a lot and he isn't getting games there. He is similar to Richards and plays at centre back and right back. Onuoha also formed a promising partnership with our very own Steven Taylor for the England under 21s. Wayne Bridge might certainly be another option as we have only one left back at the moment. Then a central midfielder who can dictate play and I imagine Keegan will go for Carrick. Hargreaves, Scholes and Anderson have moved ahead of him now and with all of them fit I don't think Man U will be adverse to selling Carrick. A winger would also be nice. Wright-Philips or Bentley would be tough deals to do in January with only two weeks left. Maybe Routledge or Barnes could be alternative options for now. Both young players who coud benefit from some guidance from Keegan.

Our squad has little ability and needs a lot of players to make things happen.

Sorry but that is a pile of "grass is always greener" bullshit. Routledge You may aswell have put "I would rather have anyone that can run a bit fast than Milner despite having no actual football ability...." Believe me If Routledge was here he would be in the team ahead of Milner. Did you ever see him for the under 21's? or when he was at Palace? He's better than Milner. Quicker and a better dribbler. Crossing is no worse than Milners either. At the very worst he's just as good as Milner but with more pace. So would you rather have Milner or Milner with more pace? Easy choice right But he isn't as good as Milner, there is a reason it looks like he could be heading off to the Championship and if Milner left us he would be going to a premiership club. Speaking of England Under 21's, isn't Shola joint top scorer at that level? Whats he up to now? he must be mint! His first season at Palace in the Premiership was the reason Spurs bought him right? He is good enough to play in the premiership if Milner is believe me. By the way ... Milner is definitely a championship player.

Sorry but that is a pile of "grass is always greener" bullshit. Routledge You may aswell have put "I would rather have anyone that can run a bit fast than Milner despite having no actual football ability...." Believe me If Routledge was here he would be in the team ahead of Milner. Did you ever see him for the under 21's? or when he was at Palace? He's better than Milner. Quicker and a better dribbler. Crossing is no worse than Milners either. At the very worst he's just as good as Milner but with more pace. So would you rather have Milner or Milner with more pace? Easy choice right

I don't think the fact we tried to pass it around more should be taken fro granted either. I think it allowed us more posession (albeit not very productive posession) which took a lot of pressure of our defence. Also, the fact that the defenders were forced to get more involved in the passing and build up play, meant they settled into the game quicker, were more tuned into the game and were more comfortable on the ball in general.

Couldn't have said it better myself. An absolutely brilliant summary. I think Enrique will only get better too and has definitely shown enough to be kept around, with maybe a more experienced player brought in ahead of him, to give Enrique more time to develop.

At this point I would have Routledge over Milner. I honestly believe he is a better player than Milner is. Milner can go apply his pointless workrate somewhere else to be honest.

blueyes.gif Yes, was very good today. Such a difference when the fans have faith in the manager. Honestly, a world of difference. Aye, noticeable in the build-up and post match too. Lets be honest that was a very poor performance and not an acceptable result given the opposition. Any other manager would have been slated for that. But this is good and it tells me fans will be more patient and supportive which is exactly what KK asked for the other day. Tell you what was a big help. The fact that everyone was played in the right positions, and also it was clear that we tried to play the right way. I don't think the fact we tried to pass it around more should be taken fro granted either. I think it allowed us more posession (albeit not very productive posession) which took a lot of pressure of our defence. Also, the fact that the defenders were forced to get more involved in the passing and build up play, meant they settled into the game quicker, were more tuned into the game and were more comfortable on the ball in general. I think what all the fans will now start to realise is that we have awful players at this club for the most part. Under Allardyce quite a few people weren't sure because he kept playing weird formations and people in the wrong positions and so there was still some feeling that this was the cause for our poor play. However, on the whole it really wasn't. No more get out of jail cards for the players. They will be exposed.

@ HTT, Which of those players do you think are KK players? NZogbia, Enrique, Taylor, Duff...Enrique...Kazenga? Enrique I'm not so sure about, I like him myself but KK spent the first half screaming at him to get forward and to support Duff. The others certainly. The grafters in our team though may find themselves eventually moved on. I can't see Owen being a mainstay either. Martins - I think KK will love and see as a huge challenge. Milner is in big trouble that is a certainty, and I will disagree with you a bit regarding Duff. I think he is in trouble too, especially as Zoggy looks so much more direct and dangerous than Duff out wide. Duff is the dilly dally man. A dilly here ... a dally there ... then proceeds tof all over and lose the ball. Owen is done, definitely. An absolutely painful experience to watch him play the game at the moment. Has now resorted to falling over and crying for penalties. He's done.

Yep completely agree. Not a thread about him but also have to say I think Enrique plays a fair few clever passes that seem to go unmentioned, not just the simple ball but actually thinks about it and plays some good attacking passes. I love Enrique because he doesn't hide. He tries to make things happen by making runs off the ball or running with the ball into space. However, a lot of the time his teammates let him down with their lack of movement, vision and passing ability. Enrique would be much better in a better team.

It's so true though, and that's the sad thing. Have you seen Solano for West Ham? As old and slow as he is, he has still looked excellent out wide. Currently 10 times th eplayer Milner is ... and that is just wrong.

spot on tbh, although id give enrique another point cos he looks good going forward albert syle Agree generally, except I'd give Roz 6 and Duff 3 Owen a 5? Get the hell out of here! A 0.5 maybe ...

This guy has already showed that he doesn't just have some ability but also appears to have a footballing brain on him. Looks composed and confident and spots some nice little passes. Very interested in seeing how he turns out. I can already see he has more about him than Milner .

How crap is Duff too?! Did absolutely nothing either. We have no wingers outside of Zoggy. I don't even know what Duff was supposed to be doing out there. We havre too many flimsy pansies that fall over under the slightest bit of pressure too and it does my head in. Owen, Duff and Milner must be made of toilet paper or something, they really are pathetically flimsy.