Ronaldo

passing it out from the back? i got taught that when i was about 8 You got taught that our 2009-10 squad was better suited to playing football on the deck when you were 8? Explains a fair bit.

Who in their right mind said that Gerrard was better than Ronaldo, in 2009 no less?

Another Monday. Which is during the week. But aye, I see what you are saying and you are right we have a poor record in these games during the week after playing on a weekend, defeats at Scunthorpe, Blackpool and Derby. I said mid-week, man.

Another Monday.

Nowt wrong with passing the time, some of us are stuck behind a desk. On the subject of Guthrie, he's great.

True, but I think it's hard not to accept that much of the reason for that was that without the balance of two fit wingers he was easier to neutralise while the majority of the defenders focus was on him. Absolutely, I said when Routledge signed that we'd see Jonas thrive. That said, as daft lad has just mentioned, there was no excuse for not having Guthrie in the middle and using his range of passing to create opportunities.

Looking at the amount of time Ranger has either not been involved or got barely 5 minutes on the pitch, there must be problems with his attitude.

Fair enough, but there were times earlier on in the season when we didn't use Jose and Jonas as much as we do now, to great effect.

Has some way to go before he's as good a footballer as Crouch.

I think he should start against Doncaster, he needs that goal.

Our last league game is on May 2nd, I see no reason to risk him for the sake of a couple of games.

You just can't remember them. Seriously, enough. A good winger will stand out a mile even in a bad team, he didn't imo.

I see what you mean, mate and fair play to you. But 'general impressions' are the reason that most of the country think Owen is a very good striker and Enrique is that spanish flop who got Newcastle relegated.

Moreso tbh. Jonas doesn't half make me laugh with his diving though.

You asked if you could convince me he was one of our best players for 2 seasons. If he was, you'd have been able to name a fair few games in which he performed well. At the very least, two or three.

Overhyped, high wages, prone to injury. We've signed that type of player many times before.

That's got to be one of the daftest things I've read on here. As if anyone* can remember who played well in what games over the last 3 years ffs, and as if the inability of someone to recall this will somehow invalidate their argument. I can remember 10 games or more when Robert played well, Solano, even N'zogbia. Wingers tend to stand out with their contribution. Wide players are there to make things happen, Milner didn't, not for us.

I think it's been blatantly obvious all season that the long ball tactics have geniunely held us back. When we get the ball down and the wide men, we tend to anihilate defences.

Name more than 5 good games he had in that period. His crossing was poor and the other aspects of his game nowhere near made it up for it.

Shame it took him all season to figure it out. A lot of us had that one sussed by October.

Middle of April at the absolute earliest.

Well, let's not jump to bury this one when he doesn't immediately set the Premiership alight then. One of the most insane things I've experienced as a Newcastle supporter was seeing how much Milner was hated. It wasn't even a case of him giving up on him too early when he was struggling, he was actually one of our best players for 2 years running and had an excellent attitude, but some people seemed to despise him because he "had no pace" (the most overused and often incorrect indictment against a player ever by the way) and "couldn't cross." That's nonsense, man. He was poor for us under Roeder and Allardyce.

Off the top of my head, we've only won one mid-week game away from home - Coventry in december.

Good.

So blatant he's used to plying his trade in Spain, knows exactly how to get fouled.