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I've never wanted a team (apart from us) to win a game so badly come on Avram! Sheva for the winner

alongside Shearer he was s****, awful, awful partnership

those who want Man u to win ANY game really dont understand football. Whinge on about Giggs and Scholes all you want, it's the supporters that define the club and Man u have about 100 Million cunts behind them tomorrow, fuck them come on Chelsea

Roeder didn't play Boumsong tbf, and the couple of times that he did were nowt short of disasterous, Liverpool (h) 06 it was generally Moore in the middle with Bramble to be honest

I wanted us to get Smith and was happy when we signed him, no bias against him whatsoever literally the worst player i've ever seen for us in terms of basically not doing anything close to what he's there for, dogshite

Faye is nowhere near 6'2" in fairness

This is key. For cavalier-like shot-stoppers/blockers, and this is what Given brings to the table, who basically put their bodies on the line - and often they'll pull off an unconventional save in doing so, where they'll put themselves in a dangerous situation - confidence is everything. If Given's unable regain the confidence you speak of, the answer is simple.................... phase him out, with Harper as the worthy replacement for now because on form it's his spot to lose, and infuse the team with fresh blood while rebuilding the position's depth accordingly, as opposed to placing a reliance on Given's fitness & health and more importantly his on-field state of mind . you know, i'm not even sure i'd agree with that Given's bravery has always been in doubt for me. 2 goals at Bolton in late 2004 anyone? load of bollocks. rooted to his line, leaving the sweeping up to his (often hapless) defenders

I'm happy, but if we got an offer for Given now it would be worth considering. However the best of Given is yet to come, his peak is a couple of seasons away, but he does need focus on the areas he lacks in, if he does he'll be the best keeper in the league when he reaches that peak. He's had enough GK coaches now though, it seems his faults are permanent. You say that but if this season is anything to go by he's past his peak. I'm willing to see what he can do etc. when he's fully recovered but he's never looked the same since that clash with the ex-West Ham fella. David James at his age having his best spell for me suggests there could be a lot more to come from Given. James has bigger faults than Given at his age, concentration crippling his credibility as a top keeper, he sorted it in the end. I can see Robinson taking the same path as James and later in his career becoming a top keeper, i just hope Given does the same. Its taking all this time for Harper to show he's good enough for a 1st team place. Given's reflexes are slowing with age, he's not going to get any better yeah, because he's 50 now.. wake the f*** up people, even Cech, Button and Cassillas have had s**** seasons. some of you are very quick to write off 10 seasons of brilliant performances.. Cech hasn't had a s*** season Cassillas is world class, is younger than Given and Button is a racing driver so I dont see how that matters Cech has made bigger errors than Given this season, Casillas had some shocking games in the last couple of seasons - although he's been immaculate this term and Buffon has struggled with an injury for a while now.. bottom line is keepers' form is temporary, class is permanent.. btw, still think Duff is world class? No, and Given never was, whats your point? my point is that your criteria (is this a word?) is f***** up pal, Given's been either awful or unfit for the last 2 seasons, and his main attributes for me (agility, reflexes) are on the wain. He doesn't have massive physical presence (schmeichal, James) or leadership/organisation skills (Seaman, Schmeichal, Pagliuca) to fall back on he's had it

This is key. For cavalier-like shot-stoppers/blockers, and this is what Given brings to the table, who basically put their bodies on the line - and often they'll pull off an unconventional save in doing so, where they'll put themselves in a dangerous situation - confidence is everything. If Given's unable regain the confidence you speak of, the answer is simple.................... phase him out, with Harper as the worthy replacement for now because on form it's his spot to lose, and infuse the team with fresh blood while rebuilding the position's depth accordingly, as opposed to placing a reliance on Given's fitness & health and more importantly his on-field state of mind . you know, i'm not even sure i'd agree with that Given's bravery has always been in doubt for me. 2 goals at Bolton in late 2004 anyone?

I'm happy, but if we got an offer for Given now it would be worth considering. However the best of Given is yet to come, his peak is a couple of seasons away, but he does need focus on the areas he lacks in, if he does he'll be the best keeper in the league when he reaches that peak. He's had enough GK coaches now though, it seems his faults are permanent. You say that but if this season is anything to go by he's past his peak. I'm willing to see what he can do etc. when he's fully recovered but he's never looked the same since that clash with the ex-West Ham fella. David James at his age having his best spell for me suggests there could be a lot more to come from Given. James has bigger faults than Given at his age, concentration crippling his credibility as a top keeper, he sorted it in the end. I can see Robinson taking the same path as James and later in his career becoming a top keeper, i just hope Given does the same. Its taking all this time for Harper to show he's good enough for a 1st team place. Given's reflexes are slowing with age, he's not going to get any better yeah, because he's 50 now.. wake the f*** up people, even Cech, Button and Cassillas have had s**** seasons. some of you are very quick to write off 10 seasons of brilliant performances.. Cech hasn't had a s*** season Cassillas is world class, is younger than Given and Button is a racing driver so I dont see how that matters Cech has made bigger errors than Given this season, Casillas had some shocking games in the last couple of seasons - although he's been immaculate this term and Buffon has struggled with an injury for a while now.. bottom line is keepers' form is temporary, class is permanent.. btw, still think Duff is world class? No, and Given never was, whats your point?

experience must have played 100 games for us now, 99 too many

I'm happy, but if we got an offer for Given now it would be worth considering. However the best of Given is yet to come, his peak is a couple of seasons away, but he does need focus on the areas he lacks in, if he does he'll be the best keeper in the league when he reaches that peak. He's had enough GK coaches now though, it seems his faults are permanent. You say that but if this season is anything to go by he's past his peak. I'm willing to see what he can do etc. when he's fully recovered but he's never looked the same since that clash with the ex-West Ham fella. David James at his age having his best spell for me suggests there could be a lot more to come from Given. James has bigger faults than Given at his age, concentration crippling his credibility as a top keeper, he sorted it in the end. I can see Robinson taking the same path as James and later in his career becoming a top keeper, i just hope Given does the same. Its taking all this time for Harper to show he's good enough for a 1st team place. Given's reflexes are slowing with age, he's not going to get any better yeah, because he's 50 now.. wake the f*** up people, even Cech, Button and Cassillas have had s**** seasons. some of you are very quick to write off 10 seasons of brilliant performances.. Cech hasn't had a s*** season Cassillas is world class, is younger than Given and Button is a racing driver so I dont see how that matters Come on, don't tell me that you are not aware of Gianluigi Button? You're mixing him up with Jenson Buffon, mate... :-) you thought for a second i was being serious?

I'm happy, but if we got an offer for Given now it would be worth considering. However the best of Given is yet to come, his peak is a couple of seasons away, but he does need focus on the areas he lacks in, if he does he'll be the best keeper in the league when he reaches that peak. He's had enough GK coaches now though, it seems his faults are permanent. You say that but if this season is anything to go by he's past his peak. I'm willing to see what he can do etc. when he's fully recovered but he's never looked the same since that clash with the ex-West Ham fella. David James at his age having his best spell for me suggests there could be a lot more to come from Given. James has bigger faults than Given at his age, concentration crippling his credibility as a top keeper, he sorted it in the end. I can see Robinson taking the same path as James and later in his career becoming a top keeper, i just hope Given does the same. Its taking all this time for Harper to show he's good enough for a 1st team place. Given's reflexes are slowing with age, he's not going to get any better yeah, because he's 50 now.. wake the f*** up people, even Cech, Button and Cassillas have had s**** seasons. some of you are very quick to write off 10 seasons of brilliant performances.. Cech hasn't had a shit season Cassillas is world class, is younger than Given and Button is a racing driver so I dont see how that matters

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I'm happy, but if we got an offer for Given now it would be worth considering. However the best of Given is yet to come, his peak is a couple of seasons away, but he does need focus on the areas he lacks in, if he does he'll be the best keeper in the league when he reaches that peak. He's had enough GK coaches now though, it seems his faults are permanent. You say that but if this season is anything to go by he's past his peak. I'm willing to see what he can do etc. when he's fully recovered but he's never looked the same since that clash with the ex-West Ham fella. David James at his age having his best spell for me suggests there could be a lot more to come from Given. James has bigger faults than Given at his age, concentration crippling his credibility as a top keeper, he sorted it in the end. I can see Robinson taking the same path as James and later in his career becoming a top keeper, i just hope Given does the same. Its taking all this time for Harper to show he's good enough for a 1st team place. Given's reflexes are slowing with age, he's not going to get any better

not trying to have a go, but everything i've read from you is on the verge of madness

Martins is the crown jewels at this club and Ashley knows it. Plus, why would Man U really want him, they have two strikers, neither of which would work particularly well with Martins and both are basically better, more refined versions of him

I was only joking like. I'd be horrified if we went for him after the debacle with Owen though tbh. confusing a lot of people today aren't you dave Saha would be a good signing, he's no Alan Smith. He's a genuinely dangerous striker and a very good footballer

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why? what makes you say that? Lacks the leadership skills to be a good keeper, very quiet, takes a donkeys bollock with kicks as well, Good goalie but prefer Given. worst post of the year Given is the least communicative keeper in the prem, is a horrible organiser and his kicking is a disgrace. Harper is streets ahead in terms of talking to his defence Worst post of the year? Calm down. I prefer Given, i've sat and watched him as long as you have and he is a better keeper, he's pulled us out of more holes and is better than Harps. it baffles me that you had a go at Harper's leadership, when that is clearly something he is better at than Given

why? what makes you say that? Lacks the leadership skills to be a good keeper, very quiet, takes a donkeys bollock with kicks as well, Good goalie but prefer Given. worst post of the year Given is the least communicative keeper in the prem, is a horrible organiser and his kicking is a disgrace. Harper is streets ahead in terms of talking to his defence

Maybe the poll title should having been 'new striker, linked, £12m'

You did notice nobody has voted for him, and he was only included as someone linked to us recently, right? so basically it was stupid to include him in the poll. Which was what i was getting at

why? what makes you say that?