Ronaldo

Crazy. No, opinion. Rio , in MY opinion, has always been vastly over rated, even when he was at West Ham. He was the second best centre half at Leeds. The Leeds fans I know - and most of my best mates unfortunately support that lot - would laugh at the above, like. That's saying somat, given the club he ended up at. Woodgate was very good, Ferdinand was class.

Doesn't even have the humility to hold his hands up when he's wrong. Dissapointing from the self-appointed ambassador of the forum.

Crazy.

See above, little man.

Not that it matters at all, like, but this thread/post here is most likely what I was thinking of: Stop taking things so seriously man, Dave.

Remember a defence of him after the Slovenia game. Apologies if I'm wrong, but I'm not.

That's odd, I remember you saying he'd been pretty good before the Germany game. That's odd. Talking s*** as usual. Well, no. You were.

That's odd, I remember you saying he'd been pretty good before the Germany game.

Bye bye, dickheads.

Completely agree that Ferdinand is the better player and he should have been in the squad instead.

Far from it. I have never been impressed with Terry as an international for the last few tournaments when it wasn't so apparent that he was a c***. I just think he lacks a good few attributes needed at this level. He's great at getting his head on the end of a cross, flying into strikes to block the ball or generally trying to remain physically strong against a physically strong opponent which is your typical Premier League faire but at this level, centre-backs are not tested in that way, not as much to require such a centre-back. Parker is similar. A top Premier League player but at this level, he looks way out of his depth and that's because the qualities he has or rather the attributes he has, just aren't required at this level and because he doesn't have enough ability to play another way if you like, he just looks poor in general. Terry is the same. When he's ran at, turned, up against a smart player or asked to bring the ball out and to deal with tactical switches from the opposition forwards, he struggles and badly so. At times last night he was like a rabbit caught in the headlights of a car when up against Abrahamivic who didn't exactly have a great game to be fair, but whenever he was up against Terry, the Chelsea man looked out of his depth. Your problem Ronaldo, you're very knowledgeable but you refuse to either accept others have a different opinion or when it challenges your own you cannot deal with it. To you Terry is great etc. To me, he's the opposite. Colo wipes the floor with him on every level as does the player sat at home in Rio Ferdinand. Agree completly with the second part in bold, the first part is pretty ludicrous though.

Yeah, he's a cunt. And unsurprisingly you're letting that influence your opinion of him as a player.

He got a dog's abuse that rainy April day at Old Trafford, that's for sure. Substitute substituted.

You mean Johan Elmander's level?

AVB did a terrible job at Chelsea but he's not that bad an appointment for Spurs, I guess.

Anyone see that program where Ginola was the head of a cult and Eamonn Holmes was a member of it?

Mick can do no wrong since that YT vid.

In all seriousness, though, I don't quite see why Terry's takes the flak so often in an England shirt. He's the least of England's problems.

Scrawny, biased runt with a self-righteous agenda? Fair point.

Clearly never had your shoes shined or car valeted by one of 'em.

Fast becoming the Garth Crooks of the forum, dude.

What in the fuck is that?

Pirlo's at leat 5 years past his best and Cassano has less than half as many international goals as Peter Crouch. There's very, very little to fear in that Italian side.

Even if we beat Ukraine we wont finish the top of the group unless France f*ck things up royally... So Spain it is. No way in hell we are stifling Spain, even Italy who is going to lock down Pirlo & Cassano from combining? it's very very unlikely imo we would have to get ridiculously lucky even the Croat's we would struggle to get past IMO. Ok we scraped past a very poor Sweden side or apart from Ibra is full of very poor players ( some of which ply their trade at the bottom of the Premier League or Championship) but lets not go nuts we are still very poor and haven't really shown anything that would suggest we could oust Spain, Italy or even Croatia. Pirlo and Cassano.

Demba's suprlus to requirements apparently. Aye, he's only started just about every game he's been available for since August.