Chris_R

Yeah, we've had half our best players out for ages. Beye, Jonas, Owen, Martins & Barton. If all of them had been fully fit for the last 7 games, we'd be a damned sight higher up the table than we are.

Don't agree at all. They were all over us, and the goal wasn't a shock at all. Kinnear though has just said we shouldn't have sat back and defended a 2-0 lead, we should have gone out and caused our own problems. So it seems that it wasn't on his instructions that we were playing so deep.

A few stats from the game: Corners: 7 to us, 8 to them Shots: 9 to us, 13 to them Posession: 49% us, 51% WBA OK we won, but it could so easily have been the other way. And I don't buy the "Lacking confidence" thing. They're in the mire as much as us, but we're at home and 2-0 up. Where did they find confidence from to play so well in the second half when we could not?

Agreed 100%. I spent the whole second half shitting myself. Simply not on against a team like West Brom.

We need players who can beat a man, and he's one of only a handful in our squad who are capable of that. For that alone, I don't want him to leave. We're desperately short of flair, creativity and pace as it is without making the situation worse - irrespective of his consistency or end product.

Rush them back? Jonas has had a shoulder injury - Unlikely that this is going to be damaged in a match. Barton has had no injury at all. He might have match sharpness issues, but not fitness issues. When players have leg injuries, it's sometimes important not to rush them. No harm in throwing Barton and Jonas on from the start though IMO. I understand what you're trying to say but a broken Collarbone is something that needs to be nurtured, because it can easily break again if not managed properly. Barton, maybe your point is valid, however I personally think it was the right decision not to start him. But if the broken collarbone is healed enough for 10 minutes action, then surely it's healed enough for 90? He can either take a blow to it or he can't. Certainly he should have been introduced a hell of a lot earlier, 10 minutes was a joke. And I don't see how it was right not to start Barton when Nicky Butt is the alternative. You've got the match fitness issue here as well. Whilst a player may be fit enough to run around a training park, playing in a match is a whole different ball game, and even being out of it for a couple of weeks screws you up. So tell me, if you're 100% physically fit (As Barton will be) then how do you get match fitness?

Rush them back? Jonas has had a shoulder injury - Unlikely that this is going to be damaged in a match. Barton has had no injury at all. He might have match sharpness issues, but not fitness issues. When players have leg injuries, it's sometimes important not to rush them. No harm in throwing Barton and Jonas on from the start though IMO. I understand what you're trying to say but a broken Collarbone is something that needs to be nurtured, because it can easily break again if not managed properly. Barton, maybe your point is valid, however I personally think it was the right decision not to start him. But if the broken collarbone is healed enough for 10 minutes action, then surely it's healed enough for 90? He can either take a blow to it or he can't. Certainly he should have been introduced a hell of a lot earlier, 10 minutes was a joke. And I don't see how it was right not to start Barton when Nicky Butt is the alternative.

Rush them back? Jonas has had a shoulder injury - Unlikely that this is going to be damaged in a match. Barton has had no injury at all. He might have match sharpness issues, but not fitness issues. When players have leg injuries, it's sometimes important not to rush them. No harm in throwing Barton and Jonas on from the start though IMO.

WHS. 5 of the bench should have started today (Xisco, Enrique, Jonas, Barton and N'Zogbia for Shola, Bassong, Geremi, Butt and Duff respectively) and we'd have had a much better chance in the game. Fitness shouldn't be an issue, Jonas is the fittest player I've ever seen so a while out with a bad shoulder won't have changed things that much, and Barton hasn't been injured he's been banned so again fitness shouldn't be relevant. Barton could be short of match sharpness perhaps, but not fitness. And he'll only get match sharpness by playing. Really needs to have the balls to make some changes for the next match.

I'd LIKE to see: Xisxo Martins N'Zogbia Barton Guthrie Jonas Enrique Coloccini Bassong Beye Given We'll probably see something entirely different to that though.

Just in from the pub. mackems deserved it. Enrique should have started instead of Bassong Barton should have started instead of Butt Jonas should have started instead of Geremi N'Zogbia should have started instead of Duff Our best spell was in the last 10 minutes. Shambolic that we waited so late to make the changes but I'm optimistic going forward.

No, he's being played there ahead of Enrique. And perhaps also N'Zogbia.

When he's being played as a left back and people are creaming themselves over his performances, then I think it's a valid point.

I think he's very promising defensively, but utterly gash going forward. Probably a worse crosser of the ball than Alan O'Brien.

What, so composed he completely mis-hit the ball 90 degrees away from where he was aiming for?

After 15 minutes, if someone had said we'd be gutted with a point I'd have laughed at them.

FUCKING GET IN!

Styles' angle was his own fault for not keeping up with play and the change in ball direction showed Beye got a clear touch. The assistant ref should have a better view, I think this one can get overturned The assistant ref probably wouldn't have seen the change in direction of the ball, so perhaps hard to blame him as well. Just a case of "shit happens" for me with this one, much as I'd like to find a reason to cover the ref in petrol and set him ablaze in the middle of Eldon Square.

You absolutely out of your f***** mind, hes bad positioned and he doesnt even care like following up the play (fat f***) then he just gives a pen, and if it was because of the touch then hes outside of the box, give the red but not the pen. Either way its one of the worst decision ive seen against us... If you genuinely think that, you can't have been watching us for long! And sure, it was a bad decision. Slow motion replays show that. And the decision has massive repurcussions given where on the pitch it occurred, our league position and how long was gone in the game etc. So you could argue it was one of the most important mistakes a ref has made against us, but it was far from being the 'worst mistake' which is a totally different thing altogether.

Loved Ameobi's shanked finish. Went about 90 degrees wide of where he was aiming it. As for the penalty, well with a slow-mo replay you can see Beye got the ball but it's hard to blame the ref for giving a penalty when you see it full speed and from his angle. Maybe we can appeal and get it overturned and have Beye back for the mackem game?

How on God's Earth can we seriously be linked with anyone when we have an interim manager, Tony Jiminez has gone and the chairman is selling up but nobody yet knows who to?

Not what I said then!

OK, I've cheated slightly here. Actually I've cheated a lot. Monkou had a trial with Sheff United in 2001.

No idea about Ken Monkou though. I would have said Huddersfield but that's already been ruled out so I'm stuck. I'm guessing it's something obscure like he went on loan somewhere famous as emergency cover on a 1-week contract or something and never got a game.

And number 8 isn't Michael Schumacher, is it? I know he's supposed to be pretty decent at footy and I think the clue in the question is that it's not UK leagues...