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I was thinking, is this thread title not libellous?

£4m max, home or abroad. Everyone in the world knows we're a soft touch in this situation. Hasn't jimenez left, it seemed like he was the reason we'd got so much for sub standard players Emre, Milner etc. I doubt Wise is as good a negotiator.

I doubt a player who lets the PFA act as their agent is a particularly greedy one. He was still happy to sign a 4 year contract which he wasn't happy with 12 months later, if he didn't like it then he shouldn't have signed it in the first place. He should never have put in a transfer request it made me think alot less of him as a person. He always seemed very amiable but obviously not. 12 million though, christ. Still can't belive we got that.

he would say that...wouldn't he. Hasn't disputed the Enrique rumours.

Kinnear says he's staying. http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1466088,00.html

From what Kinnear has said I think the money that will be raised from the sale of the players, which isn't likely to be a whole lot, will go towards the loan fee and salary of the players he wants on loan, as apparently their loan fees will be a million odd each, as they are supposedly top players. So in effect we won't be buying the players outright but will be with a view to a permanent move in the summer when the clubs situation is clearer. I think getting them on loan is the only way, what type of half decent player is going to come here in Jan on a permanent deal when the manager is on a rolling contract and the club is up for sale.

He must be finished otherwise another club would have got him.

Precisely. Load of horseshit. I'm sure we'd have no problem fighting off other clubs for the services of £10m-rated loanees. It's f***ing laughable. Ashley is ripping the piss. Fair play to Fred Shep to shut us up he would let a manager spunk dollops of cash on players. Now we talk about bringing "10 MILLION POUND PLAYER'S" on loan for a few months. I guess they have saw the crowd down the road benefit having Sissy on loan, that is the level we are at now competing & getting ideas off SAFC......... THE f***ing SHAME OF IT :-[ Not really we used to bring in loan players all the time, Helder, Distin, Saha etc plus we brought in Gonzaelz in the summer who cost Valencia 8.8M Euros.

They are probably 'subs' for Champions League clubs. Aye because CL clubs are going to loan there "£10 million" players out while they are still in the CL. It's more likely than a midtable side loaning out their best player. You can't write them off when you know nowt about them or who they are.

They are probably 'subs' for Champions League clubs.

http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2008/11/21/20m-serie-a-pair-top-joe-s-wish-list-61634-22307745/

I wonder if he's ever seen this thread, I might send him a message on facebook and tell him to sign up.

Yes, you are forgiven. I reckon one will be Tiago - nailed on, not sure about the other one.

Not unless Bayern play in Serie A now.

Assuming it has something to do with this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1085762/Injury-prone-Newcastle-striker-Martins-criticised-Nigeria-boss-Amodu.html?ITO=1490 It's a bit harsh calling him injury prone.

Damn, Taylor's out according to SSN. Must be Bassong unless he's going to try 532 like Allardyce did against liverpool with Enrique as a centreback. That worked well.

Corking, how many times will we hear the term merc'd.

Yeah thats what I'd like to see, he drifts in far too often for a winger, you want them to drift in occasionally but if you do it all the time its easy to defend against, whereas beating a man through pace and skill can only be defended against by a quality defender with pace.

Completely irrelevant question, I was never against Keegan I just don't think he should have come in under a DOF on the principle of changing the structure over time and good results. Would we be in the top 3 had Keegan stayed and been given freedom over transfers? Top 10 would have been a very good achievement. you are simply wrong, we had 2 or 3 good results with Keegan in his second spell. You really are an ignorant, patronising fool you are also simply wrong, young man I'm 26 mate, qualify your answer, you can't just say my point of view is wrong without explaining why. you say he shouldnt have come in under a dof, well, how it was sold to him was completely diffrent to how they tried to operate it. keegan would never have took the job, if it was explained, ... we will choose the players , not you, we will sell the players you want, and fill the team with inadequate ones.we will promise signings, that we will not deliver.the director of football will me a man of less standing, less experience, less achievement than yourself, he wont come to the matches, but he will tell you whast to do. edit, 26, is simply too young to understand the impact kevin keegan had on this club, fact I don't think your point about 26 being too young is valid however I do understand the impact Keegan had back then. We wen't from virtually being a tier 3 club in absolute turmoil into one challenging for the league in a few years , but the game has changed, no side will ever do what we did then unless something drastic changes. QPR are one of the richest clubs in the world but even with them they will not be challenging for the title within the next few seasons. Man City have alot of money but they will also not challenge for the title in the next few seasons. Even if you gave Keegan an unlimited budget at Newcastle he could never re-create the magic we once had. He also knew a DOF was coming in and despite saying 3 months earlier that Sam Allardyce should never allow a DOF to come in he came in knowing one was coming. I don't know exactly what Keegan was told and neither do you but he definately should not have come in under a DOF as he would clearly never be able to work with one, he likes to run the club himself, he also knew from the outset he was not in charge of negotiating contracts. Anyway back on topic all I want to see is an owner who has no plans to sell and a permanent manager for the next 3 seasons even if we are floating in midtable.

I often wonder why he and Colo did.

Completely irrelevant question, I was never against Keegan I just don't think he should have come in under a DOF on the principle of changing the structure over time and good results. Would we be in the top 3 had Keegan stayed and been given freedom over transfers? Top 10 would have been a very good achievement. you are simply wrong, we had 2 or 3 good results with Keegan in his second spell. You really are an ignorant, patronising fool you are also simply wrong, young man I'm 26 mate, qualify your answer, you can't just say my point of view is wrong without explaining why.

Completely irrelevant question, I was never against Keegan I just don't think he should have come in under a DOF on the principle of changing the structure over time and good results. Would we be in the top 3 had Keegan stayed and been given freedom over transfers? Top 10 would have been a very good achievement. you are simply wrong, What am I wrong about?

I completely dispute this. How the hell could Keegan foresee that Ashley would make the decisions he subsequently has. Sure, he would know there would be a bit of an outcry, but these things happen and after a while it dies down and people carry on - just look at the number of people who are clinging on to the hope Ashley will do something - anything - positive so they can forgive him and continue to believe in their dream-world new-Arsenal scenario of a Champions League club built on peanuts. Spend a couple of million in January or give just about anyone the managers job to the end of the season and he'll be the saviour of the club once again to many (on here at least). In fact the irony is, the longer he lets the current situation carry on, the worse the position the club gets into, the more desperate as supporters we become, the less he he will have to do to make himself a hero once again in the eyes of the deluded - I'm sure spending a small fraction of the money the club has already brought in as revenue this season in January would seal it. I don't believe anyone could have foreseen Ashley openly putting the club up for sale straight away and leaving it in limbo while it didn't sell. If the DOF structure has one redeeming feature it's that it's supposed to make the transition between managers easier not so impossible you have to sell the club. I also don't buy into the he should have left at a "better" time crap. I'll quote what I said at the start of October to save typing: I never mean't he knew he would sell the club, just that the perception from the fans would be negative towards Ashley and make him attending the games impossible. I said the line about the club having to be sold in the way that some of our fans cling onto these heroes ignoring everything else. If you ask the people sky ask questions to if they wanted Mourinho or Keegan, they'd pick Keegan. I know thats not a very valid basis for a survey but it's the perception that Ashley will get as he see's these people on SSN and the people that have a more intelligient balanced view are never heard. I've tried ringing up talksport to try to explain that not all Newcastle fans are like the ones you see on Sky Sports but they wouldn't put me through, I wonder why. then your beef is with the media, really. as with everything, there's thick people and intelligent people on all sides of the debate. To be honest I don't know who I have a problem with, if anyone. It's more the situation than anything else, Keegan shouldn't have come in in those circumstances, Ashley shouldn't have appointed a DOF as I don't think it works, Ashley should have put more money in etc. There are many people at fault and Keegan is one of them. T

Completely irrelevant question, I was never against Keegan I just don't think he should have come in under a DOF on the principle of changing the structure over time and good results. Would we be in the top 3 had Keegan stayed and been given freedom over transfers? Top 10 would have been a very good achievement.

I'd definately take him.