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Isn't Nuno Gomes the one who had the extremely unattractive wife? I seem to remember much hilarity re that, circa 2002

Leffe- on away trips, I regularly see behaviour by Villa fans that makes me truly fucking shudder, it is so moronic. It is always worst at the clubs who do big allocations and low prices. Wigan, for example, where they give you 5.5k cheap tickets, and every prick out there brings his mates with him for a once a season trip (all of whom are also idiots). Every club has them, at the end of the day. It says far more about what is wrong with British society than it does about what is wrong with one football club or the other.

Who's available that's a lot better? Harry Redknapp? Not foreign enough, obv.

Oh. One last thing. I can respect a supporter of pretty much any club, so long as they're not a no-good fucking glory hunter. If you're some douchebag from Croydon who latched on to Man United (or Man City these days), then really, your opinion on anything football related is entirely null and void to me, it is totally irrelevant and I don't want to hear it. You have no idea what it means to support a football club properly, you've no idea what it feels like because you opted for the near-guaranteed success option, you worthless maggot. You don't deserve to be listened to, you sub-Tim Lovejoy wankers.

i'm sure the same bloke was there 2 years off the trot, in the same top in the same place. remember they wore yellow top white shorts (bukta) and both games were similar very narrow wins either way.. also remember at hillsborough possibly the best away atmosphere on the bank holiday monday, defeat but moral victory with coppers hats being thrown onto the pitch and the leppings lane union jack being pulled down and a toon scarf hoisted in its place. on the pitch they beat us but the place erupted. their fans werent happy and the coppers had a battle all the way up to wadsley bridge with their fans. Hillsborough was a top away day right enough, regularly fell on a b/hol iirc. Still don't like 'em though, and now i've just remembered that 'Tango' div kid n'all. That Tango bloke being the fat bare chested tit? He's - oddly - from Wolverhampton.

On a general point, though, it's probably daft to judge clubs on a small number of idiots. I saw my mate's 18 year old sister get a brick in her face at nigh-on point blank range from some scumbag after leaving an NUFC - AVFC match at SJP in the late 80s. That's probably the most horrible thing I've seen at a match, as it was so cowardly and mindless, but it doesn't make me think all Newcastle fans are mindless woman-hating thugs.

nar, May 2009 changed that. Some are probably areet on their own (brummie) but collectively they were a bunch of c***s that day. from what i hear they done nothing we wouldn't , looked forward to that week and enjoyed sending down a largish club. had we been away at stoke or west ham or wherever it would've been exactly the same. had it been the other way round we'd have done exactly the same. We drew nowts-each at Birmingham a few years beforehand and sent them down. Wasn't there but I largely doubt we went to the extent they did to rub it in. when was this ? 2006. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/apr/30/match.birminghamcityfc thought you were meaning villa. birmingham aren't really the biggish club like villa or us. imagine having everton or villa or spurs at SJP on the last day and sending them down.....we'd take the piss in the same way as the villa fans did, anyone would. I agree. Honestly, I don't want to get into an argument with anyone over that, but the gloating would have been the same. The time to worry is if you go down and nobody bats an eyelid, like Wolves, for example. The banners were a bit OTT, but really, you're talking about a handful of people. The fans I don't understand are Everton. There's always been a big respect from Villa to Everton as clubs, as they're pretty much "us" in many ways, the two clubs are so similar, but recently it doesn't seem to get reciprocated. We've probably got more undeserved points against them than any other club in recent years, but really, it's not that big a deal, is it? I know some of them didn't like Young and Laursen running the length of the pitch with cupped ears after that 94th minute Young winner, but that kind of overlooks the fact that Joleon "childhood Villa fan" Lescott had, about 60 seconds prior to that, scored against us and done his over the top celebration right in front of our fans - something he's done pretty much every single time he's scored against us. They also strike me as very whiney and whingey in recent years. Whever we play them at our place, they seem to spend at least 80 of the 90 minutes shouting for penalties. Still, i still like Everton. I remember the double replay of the 77 LC final. What a tussle that was.

OMG

I see MON is heavily linked with Grant Holt. That's every inch an O'Neill signing. There are also mumblings down here linking Sunderland with Warnock. Please god, please god, please god, please make it happen.

I suppose from their point of view we are level on points, so Sunderland = Newcastle. Fans are always like this at this stage though, we'll see their confidence battered over the season as the world class legend Martin O'Neill buys more average UK based players and subjects them to hour after hour of hoofball. I'm not one to defend MON, but the hoofball thing is very unfair. We never played that under him, certainly no more than other clubs resort to it. What he played was endless balls in from the wing, which whilst not beeing hoofball per se, isn't that different, because balls whipped in from the wing are also a percentages game.

There's an interesting point here beyond Cuellar, in that what we are seeing is MON falling back on his usual transfer tactics - almost exclusively sign: 1. Players who have played for him before. 2. Players who have played in the UK before. It was infuriating for us at times, because we felt he was limiting himself to shopping in the overpriced home market, which was insanity, and largely explains how, when he flounced out, we were left with such a horrendous wage bill.

I reckon his days are numbered, too. We had him at Villa on loan from Man United, and MON sent him back before the loan period expired, he was so mind blowingly average.

Hang on. Didn't they sell a full back this weekend? Oh dear, poor Carlos.

There isn't a fee - he is out of contract. Strange one, Carlos. He was reallly popular with the fans (hence the shenanigans at his last game for us), but over five years, no Villa manager played him consistently at centre half. MON stuck him at RB for massive periods of time. He's decent defensively, but terrible coming forward. He's also the only Spanish person on the planet with no ball control. His first touch is like watching a puppy try to pick up a balloon. Top bloke, though, always gives 100 percent. Always looked a good CB to me, tbf. And to me, too. But not to MON, Gerrard Houllier or Alex McFuck.

Yeap, but O'Neill is known to prefer CB's at fullback than actual fullbacks. This. He'll be playing at right back.

There isn't a fee - he is out of contract. Strange one, Carlos. He was reallly popular with the fans (hence the shenanigans at his last game for us), but over five years, no Villa manager played him consistently at centre half. MON stuck him at RB for massive periods of time. He's decent defensively, but terrible coming forward. He's also the only Spanish person on the planet with no ball control. His first touch is like watching a puppy try to pick up a balloon. Top bloke, though, always gives 100 percent.

They'll be lucky to see out the season.

Who the fuck is Karim El Ahmadi? We've signed him, apparently.

It's actually the Star Chamber of the ITKs. It is in the clubs constitution that, should The Club be managerless, power of market acquisition transfers to the ITK committee.

It does if young English players can't get near PL club youth schemes because they're full of foreign kids. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Little Englander, I understand why it is like this, I'm just saying you can't expect waves of talented English kids to come through if the best places for them to earn their trade are too busy poaching 15 year old French kids.

One thing, though, there's no point whatsoever playing Milner if you're going to play him out wide. He's crap there.

The Premier League is far closer to being the reason why England are shit, not a reason why we shouldn't be so. Look at some of the players who got into the England squad this time. Downing. What kind of a season has he had? Was it zero goals and zero assists? Henderson? A kid who had one half decent season at Sunderland, then an utter stinker for Liverpool. England's third choice goalkeeper is Jack Butland. Honestly, I wouldn't recognise him if he turned up to empty my bins (and given Birmingham City's financial situation, that's not out of the question pretty soon). The Premier League is not the best league in the world. it is the best marketed league in the world. Once you get past that, you have to look at the fact that there really aren't that many very good English players in it, so stuffed full is it of foreign players. You can then look at the fact that the money grabbing clubs, with the equally avaricious agents and players ensure that nothing like enough money trickles down to grass roots football education for kids. Just like none of it trickles down to create affordable tickets for fans, absolutely everything about the English game is short termist, and centred on greed, and that is why we'll never achieve anything at international level.

Wasn't it he who dropped a ricket against Croatia?

:lol: Why is it so many of these fucking simpletons are unable to leave the protection of a bus or a hotel without taking their headphones with them?

So can I.