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This is quite amusing. Listen to them all getting all worked up and stuff. Ipswich - Birmingham last night.

Ashley Young's dive was truly world class. Utter disgrace. Unfortunately, I kept my mouth shut when he was doing the same thing for us, so have no right to complain. Plenty of Villa fans did used to complain about it, though, so they'll all be feeling vindicated about now. I can't remember ever feeling this disspirited by Villa. They won't sack him. He'll be here next season, and we wil go down. Oh, and Lerner is said to be giving him plenty of cash in the summer. "Amazeballs", I believe, is not the word.

Ahah, but that's where you're wrong. He is out of contract in the summer. Be scared, people of Sunderland, be scared. He'll only be 35 too, so plenty of years in the tumbling bear yet. Please let it happen Obv, personally, I dont give a shit where he goes, so long as I never have to see him lumber around in claret and blue ever, ever again. Sunderland would be quite funny, mind

Ahah, but that's where you're wrong. He is out of contract in the summer. Be scared, people of Sunderland, be scared. He'll only be 35 too, so plenty of years in the tumbling bear yet.

Well, I did try telling them ... Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=691709&page=44#ixzz1s274bgkF You bitter Villa fan, you. God, I just found that thread on SMB where they discuss my post. Talk about totally missing the point "yeah, but he's better than McLeish hur hur hur", "yeah, and you're shit this season hur hr", "yeah and what have Villa done since he left, eh?" What utter fucking mongs. What connection is there between any of those points and what MON did

Ha ha ha, from RTG Well, I did try telling them ... Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=691709&page=44#ixzz1s274bgkF

That is true, but there is an easy answer to that - you appoint people who do know what they're doing to run the club day to day.

Believe me, you're going to have some fun at their expense in the transfer window this summer.

http://i.imgur.com/BDRSm.jpg It's like looking at a photo of myself :-(

I bet you dont have to wait till Christmas to buy them, though.

We've changed sponsors? The problem with Nike as shirt supplier is that unless you're one of their flagship kits (Arsenal and Man U in this country), they supply you with utter dross. Last year our kits weren't even on sale till December, because they had a late initial release date, and when they came out, they were terrible quality and got sent back to the factory. Celtic had the same thing with their shirts. Then they recycle old designs. Our home kit was a copy of some French side's away kit from two years previously. I don't buy kits (I'm in my 40s, and 40 somethings wearing replica kits is a little bit too Benidorm for my liking), but I strongly believe that ver kidz should be able to get their hands on the actual product before Christmas, and they should be of a quality at least vaguely approaching the price. Of course, this hasn't stopped the same kids going mental because we've been swung by the fact Macron offered us twice as much money for next season, but hey ho, some people never learn.

Currently on the pitch for us: Herd, Gabby, Gardener, Lichaj, Weimann, Bannan, Baker. That's what you call relying on the youth set up.

Who is your reserve manager? Kevin McDonald and Gordon Cowans.

Our kids (ie the reserves) play some cracking stuff. It must be hard for them to hit the first team and play McLeish style.

My football life. Right there. I never expect much from games involving Stoke but bloody hell, it's not one of those stupid games you play as kids, the ball is allowed to touch the ground you know. Weimann with a stunner there, mind. That's a goal straight out of FIFA12

My football life. Right there.

There has to be at least 48 hours between matches for teams in the Premier League. Stoke played late on Saturday, hence the stupid KO time today.

Given my season ticket away for this one. No way was i fucking up my easter monday to trudge 40 miles to watch what is going to be amongst the worst games on the calendar.

*snigger*

Typo I said he wouldn't get them "about eighth" it should have been "above eighth".

Are you for real? Villa put too much trust in O'Neill. O'Neill's idea of a transfer policy is that you have no scouting network (genuinely, that's not an exaggeration, we didn't have any), and that you buy only from the home market. He bought 30 odd players at Villa. The number who weren't playing already in the UK? Two. And one of those only happened because Lyon got on the blower and offered him to us. MON will only work somewhere where he's the undisputed power - on and off the pitch. That's why Quinn has been shunted away. At Villa, MON worked with three chief executives - Richard FitzGerald, Michael Cunnah and Paul Faulkner. The first two left because they found MON impossible to work with. the final one was the one who told him he had to do something about the wage bill. He refused, hoping he'd win again, only not to, as he was up against one of Lerner's closest advisors. So what did he do? He threw his toys out of the pram and left, *five days* before the start of the season. That screwed up last season for us, and if you want an indicator of where his fucking shameful transfer policy left us, look at the logic in buying an enitre defence in 2008-09 (Friedel. Shorey. Curtis Davies, Cuellar, Luke Young - who he could have had for 2m the year before, but waited and paid 5m for) then, deciding he didn't rate them almost immediately, going out the next season and buying ANOTHER entire defence (Beye, Warnock, Collins, Dunne). You can point at Ashley Young and say he was a good signing (he was), and Milner was superb for us, but as he'd already spent a year with us before, that one was hardly earth shattering in terms of him scouting out a gem. When he left, he left us with a wage bill that was 88% of our turnover, and at that point I think we had the sixth or seventh highest turnover in the league - so go figure that one out. That's why we've had Habib Beye here for three whole years, now aged 35, picking up 40k a week. Thats why we bought Curtis Davies for 10 million pounds - think about it, ten million pounds - only to see him fail and be moved on to Blues for a pittance. That's also why we're paying Emile Fucking Heskey 65,000 a week until he's 35, too. You can kid yourself about "oh, it'l be different this time" but it will not be. When he left Celtic, they had the same problems. They were paying Bobo Balde the best part of 40k a week. In the SPL. Think about it. I note also that you're needing to buy strikers this summer. Well, good luck for that. I remember us clamouring for a reliable scorer to get us into the top four. Martin went out and bought Harewood, then Heskey. At the time Darren Bent went to Sunderland for a measley £10m. He'll almost certainly sign Kevin Doyle for you, and you'll have misgivings and convince yourself it's about what he does in a Sunderland shirt that matters, but good fucking luck with that, because O'Neill couldn't pick a striker to save his life. Don't get me wrong, MON had us finishing sixth (as, however, did O'Leary, which puts it in context), he's not a bad manager at all. But I'll tell you this for nothing, he'll never get you finishing about 8th or so (which these days is the new sixth, as it's harder up the top than it used to be), for two reasons. Those reasons are that to make that extra jump, you need two things - you need to play the transfer market effectively, and you need to be tactically sound. Those, by coincidence, are MON's two major weaknesses. I've already covered transfers, but about now you should be getting the general sense that although it's ace when his Plan A works (soak up pressure, counter attack, like an away team), he genuinely does not have a clue about where to start iwth having a Plan B. In four years with us, I also genuinely can not remember one single instance when he made a substitution which changed a match, or changed the way we were set out to play. I suspect he's probably not changed much. I bet, for example, if i look at your last fixture, he'll have made a change at around 75 minutes. I bet he's done that in almost all your games. Over the course of time, it'll be one player more than any he brings on (for us it was Sidwell, another execrable waste of money). For you, no idea who it'l be, but it'll happen, believe me.

After the goal you stopped trying to play football completely. Must be infuriating. Yep. Infuriating and incredibly predictable under McFuck.

Just shows how piss poor we are this season, we can't even beat Liverlol at Anfield FFS

The Tines reporter tweeted this during our match. Made me chuckle.

Yeah, and what's worse is I was hanging around this place that season as your relegation unfolded, and am now trying to convince myself there are no parallels at all. The difference is our 'McFuck' was only meant to be there for 6 games. You gave yours a full contract and a transfer budget! Kinnear's appointment was far worse IYAM Not convinced. It certainly can't touch the inexplicability of this one. Imagine if McFuck was Sunderland manager, and got them relegated twice in four seasons whilst playing football of a style that you pissed yourselves laughing at, it was so utterly piss poor and unambitious. Imagine that on the last day of last season, you'd spent your time pissing yourself laughing at his latest relegation (which happened in such a limp, unambitious, unchallenged way that it looked even more pitiful). Then imagine that less than a month later, Ashley appointed him Newcastle manager. That is what has happened to us.