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To be honest, I'd rather watch my own teeth being pulled out of my screaming mouth, one by one, than watch Man City in the Champions League.

There's a rational, logical answer to this. If you support a non CL club, then really you should be wishing nothing but ill on the English clubs in the CL, as the money that a prolonged run in it brings in just goes to polarise the league even more - it widens the gap between the haves and have nots. Obviously, ITV and Sky don't seem to understand this, and seem to think we all want them to do well, as they're in some way representing "us". The Champions League means nothing to me, nothing whatsoever. Oh, and Man City, well every football fan who cares about the future of the game should loathe them and what they're doing to the sport. They'll be the death of the game yet. So, on the whole, in answer to your question, that's a no.

City being cruelly punished by the 1982 European Cup runners-up.

Gareth Barry? I've been saying he ain't all that since about two years before we sold him, but would the world listen? Would it sheeeeeiiiite.

What I loved is this. This summer: "We've done really well, we've done plenty of business, and done it all really quickly" *repeat in 100 new threads every day* After four or five games when - in an amazing turning on its head of the usual state of affairs - 10 new signings don't magically gel immediately - "Bruce has got to go" *repeat in 100 new threads every day*

If you're stood, at ground level, where managers stand, I honestly don't see how you can possibly see something that is happening practically on the goal line. I've always wondered that. I've occasionally sat in the lower tier, first few rows, and you can see shit all from there, so it must be even harder for managers.

Listen to Warnock. What a tit end. he might be right, but Christ almightly, shut the fuck up you dozy cunt.

it's alright, Beren, neither do I. Unfortunately, I've given them 600 quid to watch an entire season of it. :(

Ah well. We were as abject as I have ever seen in the first half, then pretty good for 25 minutes, then decided we'd take 1-0. A season of uninspiring toil awaits. Incidentally, I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that Alan Hutton is fucking terrible. It's watching a fan who has got on the pitch and joined in or something.

Warnock is going to go into meltdown later.

In fairness, we've been infinitely better in the second half Would be hard not to be. The Zog was the only useful person. N'Zogbia has been awful.

In fairness, we've been infinitely better in the second half

You guys have been playing some terrible stuff for the two matches Ive seen. Lucky to get a point against us, and looking really lucky to get even one point even if it looks like youll get all 3. You sound as if you think you're telling me something I don't already know. Preaching to the converted.

To be quite honest, if we hold on to this and end up fifth tonight, it says a hell of a lot more about the PL than it does Aston Villa.

yep. He's got a very high pitch screaming voice. he sounds like Noddy Holder at the start of Merry Christmas Everyone where he screams ITS CHRISTMAS

Ah fuck, here he comes.

If DJ Campbell comes on, I'm having money on him to score against us.

Tyler just said "dominant force" FIFA tastic.

Still, much better this half so far.

He only got the job because of his cup win - his league form has consistently been poor. No, he got the job because he was the only manager prepared to work unded the shitty financial controls imposed by our chairman. s*** poor management from above, I'm afraid. I always find it mental that they wouldn't finance O'Neill but they gave Houllier £24m + They were right to pull the plug on MON. We're still suffering from the crippling wage bill he lumbered us with. I just saw Habib Beye, age 35, 40k a week on the bench, That's a depressing reminder. I wish Houllier had stayed, he was at least getting us playing football towards the end.

He only got the job because of his cup win - his league form has consistently been poor. No, he got the job because he was the only manager prepared to work unded the shitty financial controls imposed by our chairman. Shit poor management from above, I'm afraid.

We've appointed a manager who has sent us to QPR to play for a draw. It's a disgrace. That midfield has got plenty of passing ability, but the ball's going over their heads. It really is anti-football shite, and if he persists with it, he'll be gone by Christmas

I've been going since 1973, and I am sat here tonight trying to think of a time when I came home from a match more depressed. I came up with Villa 0 - Man City 5 under Venglos Villa 0 - Forest 5 in about 1984 and then I started to struggle. First shot on 87 minutes, from a CB. Full strength team, largely, against Bolton reserves, and yet again our midfield got totally owned.

I paid five pounds for my ticket tonight and that shite was not worth anything like that much.

Probably anywhere between 7th and 12th, I reckon. He's made us hard to beat, which is something we'd started to do at the end of last season, and he's carried on. We've lost one of our last 15 league games. That's good. The problem is, midfield is all wrong. N'Zogbia hasn't settled yet, Petrov is too old to be bombing back and forth, and Albrighton is still suffering from his lack of confidence he had at the end of last season. It depends what Jenas offers - yeah, yeah, I know, I know - and we'll see how it pans out till January. I honestly think there's about 12 PL sides who could could position randomly in an end of season table, in positions 6 or 7 down, and it wouldn't really surprise anybody. I don't mind McLeish, really. He seems a decent enough bloke, and I honestly could not give a flying one if he used to manage Blues. I'm more concerned about his two relegations there. The thing he has got to do, though, is get us playing. it is great that Richard Dunne and even Warnock have been so successfully revived, but he's taken over a much better squad of players than he had at Blues, and he has got to get them playing some football. it is very early days yet, so he gets the benefit of the doubt. If the current efficiency without spark thing is just him fumbling around to get things right, then I'm cool with that. If, on the other hand, this is his plan, then I am considerably less cool with it. Of course, the irony is that, although we're uninspiring to watch, we're not much different to the way we were at home under MON for at least three years.