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I love Oba, but thinking that he can take a pathetic penalty like that and yet he'll still be off to a decent PL club making shitloads of money after we're relegated makes me sick.

Should've been taken by Nolan. Hell, even Duff. But that makes too much sense for Newcastle United. We're not allowed to do anything that's even remotely logical.

Fucking bunch of worthless cowardly lions deserve the Championship football they're going to get.

Martins needs a right bollocking for that absolutely pathetic effort. Worst pen I've seen since the ones the Swiss took in '06

Jesus fucking christ. Of course.

How happy is Arshavin right now that he didn't sign for us

Looks like we've got a shot at a draw. Typical how this bunch only shows up when they're playing big teams.

Whatever I don't even care anymore. We're getting both.

We're pretty much done imo. Never going to pull out once we're deeper than 3 points into the shithole, which we will be in two weeks time. I really don't have the proper tools to process this. I've never experienced a relegation before and honestly never thought I would so I can't even understand what I'm going through never mind deal with it. I just have this sick phantom pain in my stomach that I don't know what to do with.

I see Ryan Taylor is well on his way to becoming a James Milner that can't beat his man.

Wins for Portsmouth and Stoke, looks like we'll be rooted pretty deeply in the bottom three within a couple of weeks. Truly looking grim now.

what the FUCK is up with the benching of Jonas. Jonas in for Duff and that's a decent team.

Damn, still no Guthrie.

The latest in a long line of black and white scapegoats, that's what Coloccini is.

Think Kadar would have stepped up as backup leftback already if he hadn't broken his leg.

It is my sincere belief that a 3-year contract for Joe Kinnear would be more damaging for this club than relegation (and in any case, will most likely be accompanied by relegation next year as an immediate result). If you want to chalk that off as me being foreign, fine, whatever suits your xenophobic worldview. But that's my opinion and I stand by it. is actually a fairly accurate assessment of the situation.

It's about his level though isn't it, anyways, f*ck the baldy little prick! Based on his performances when he was up here he wasn't fit to play professional football at all, never mind at the Championship level. So fair play to him if he's gotten his fitness up since then.

I see a lot of people just don't understand what this thread is about. Nevertheless, I stand by my position. Given a hypothetical choice, I would rather be relegated with the promise of having a new manager than stay up and keep Kinnear for three years.

Here's an interesting theory someone put to me by the way. How would you react if the board decided to install Beardsley as temporary manager?

These are called "hypothetical questions"

The choice of Kinnear gets criticised a lot, but there were particular circumstances. Keegan had walked, Ashley had decided to sell up in order to appease the fans, and we needed someone who was prepared to step into what seemed a very temporary position. There weren't going to be too many willing candidates. It boils down to who you consider to be at fault for bringing about that desperate situation in the first place. But that's another debate. Appointing Kinnear as temporary manager was understandable, perhaps even wise. Keeping him on after deciding not to sell was questionable. Offering him a long-term contract despite the fact that he's almost dropped dead is inexcusable idiocy.

What gives you the belief that he'll be sacked if he preforms poorly? Surely not the fact that he's taken us closer to relegation than Roeder or Souness ever did, nearly dropped dead, and yet is still getting a three year contract?

Keeping Kinnear is certain relegation within the term of his contract. There's no point avoiding relegation this season if it's coming anyway next year.

If Ashley had any intention of sacking him any time soon, he wouldn't be offering him 3 years regardless of our Premiership status in the first place. Job probably wouldn't be in danger unless we dropped to League one.

Simple hypothetical question. If a supreme being offered you a choice between relegation and sacking Kinnear and staying up and keeping him, how would you choose? Not even a dilemma for me, I'd take relegation any day. In the Championship with a new manager, there's at least a chance that we'll rebuild strongly and come straight back up. Going from a Championship club to mid-table Premiership again isn't easy, but the gap is far from insurmountable. However, even if we were to stay up, we are guaranteed relegation within the next 2~3 season with the worst manager in England's top two divisions at the helm. There is simply no hope under Joe Kinnear. I realize that it's kind of pointless asking this when in all likelihood, we're probably getting both