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May I ask why you only seem to post when things are appearing to go well for Spurs? Going well? Didn't they get beat 2-0 by the bottom side of the league last week? It's pretty sad though, to think that whenever anything that could be even remotely construed as exciting for Spurs is about to happen, the first thought in Martin Jol's mind is "OMFG I've gotta go act ITK on that Newcastle board!" Aye ok, but the fact they are signing Appiah working on Downing etc, through to the final of the cup. Strikes me as Spurs just being Spurs again. Their first priority has to be to solidify their defense yet there they go signing more overpriced attacking players. Downing won't move (I don't think Spurs can afford it in the first place having just shelled out to bring back Defoe,) and Appiah is 50/50 to flop. During the summer I said that despite all the bells and whistles, I'd much rather have our summer signings than Spurs'. I still would.

It's not really journalism thought is it, coming from a guy on a sunderland message board whose lawyer mate told him. Well, lazy making-shit-up then.

May I ask why you only seem to post when things are appearing to go well for Spurs? Going well? Didn't they get beat 2-0 by the bottom side of the league last week? It's pretty sad though, to think that whenever anything that could be even remotely construed as exciting for Spurs is about to happen, the first thought in Martin Jol's mind is "OMFG I've gotta go act ITK on that Newcastle board!"

We've been linked with Adriano every window since he's turned shit I think. It's just lazy journalism, assuming we're a club that picks up "past-it" stars.

I don't agree with this entirely (in fact, I agree with everything bar the bold) but it's not far from being accurate. He has been good this season, see Villa (h), Man City (h), and cameo's against Everton (a), and Portsmouth (a) when he was excellent. However, Spurs (h), Hull (h) and Sunderland (a) he was dreadful, especially the first two I listed there. But yeah, most people here are over-reacting. It probably should have been 2 years with a third depending on appearances. He scored against Sunderland. Was coming back from injury/didn't have much time against Spurs. Hull was before his "Kinnear Renaissance," and honestly, everyone was shit then. Shola's been about as good as Shola can be this year.

How is it "better" ? Do you not think the Keegan Newcastle team would challenge for the title ? Do you think the England team of 1990 is not better than the one of the last few years ? Why do you think that football "always" improves ? Its not the case mate, believe me. There are plenty of players through the ages who would still walk into current teams. You are the best of your era, you can't do better than that and you can stand alongside the best players of any other era too. I think the Keegan Newcastle team would probably finish between 4th & 6th around the likes of Arsenal & Villa. Prepared to be shot down here, but that's my opinion. It also goes beyond just a direct comparison in quality. Back in Keegan or even Robson's days it was easy to build a team that could put away opponents in the bottom half of the league with consistency. These days teams like Villa will have their bad days where they're completely outplayed by a team like us. Not only is the league much better in general, it's also much more level. (Excluding the "top four," of course) as detached from the true reality as those who attempted to suggest that under Ashley we were trying to sign young players with potential for the first time in our history. What you say is nothing new, it's always happened and always will. NE5, isn't it a fact (I know you like that word) that in the mid-90s, the Premiership was maybe the fifth or sixth most prestigious league in the world, when now it is unquestionably number one? Isn't it a fact that the talent pool in the 90s was mostly limited to players from the British Isles (with a few notable exceptions,) while now the best talent in the world flocks to the league? Isn't it the fact that the Premiership has been absolutely dominating the Champions League in recent years? Isn't it the fact that the amount of money in the league has increased nearly a tenfold in the past decade? Despite all that, are you sure the Premiership is still the same old league it was in the 90s?

I've never been impressed by West Ham this season and I've honestly been startled at the good results they've gotten lately. I think they just might be this season's "Robin Hood" team: taking points from the rich and giving them to the poor. We'll play decently and win. Honestly don't feel that threatened.

How is it "better" ? Do you not think the Keegan Newcastle team would challenge for the title ? Do you think the England team of 1990 is not better than the one of the last few years ? Why do you think that football "always" improves ? Its not the case mate, believe me. There are plenty of players through the ages who would still walk into current teams. You are the best of your era, you can't do better than that and you can stand alongside the best players of any other era too. I think the Keegan Newcastle team would probably finish between 4th & 6th around the likes of Arsenal & Villa. Prepared to be shot down here, but that's my opinion. It also goes beyond just a direct comparison in quality. Back in Keegan or even Robson's days it was easy to build a team that could put away opponents in the bottom half of the league with consistency. These days teams like Villa will have their bad days where they're completely outplayed by a team like us. Not only is the league much better in general, it's also much more level. (Excluding the "top four," of course)

Apologies, I have this unfortunate tendency to descend to the level of whoever I'm responding to.

well, if you think that, what DO you think is the reason ? Of course its because of the change of ownership. Ambitions and standards have dropped. Nothing else could cause your change of attitude. The fact that we've festered down here so long that we've used up any sort of good will we amassed during the Keegan and Robson eras. To incoming players, we're no longer a big club that's hit hard times, just another one of them s*** clubs. The fact that the rest of the PL has improved so drastically in the past few years that it's no longer just a matter of throwing together any half-decent squad to become "the best of the rest." We now have to leapfrog the likes of Villa and Everton who have already entrenched themselves as near permanent fixtures in the top six, Man City, who have infinite money, and Tottenham, the greatest f***ing club on Earth. The whole Keegan shitfest. I suppose this wouldn't have happened if Ashley wasn't the owner, I'll give you that. Then again, if Shepherd was still hear we probably would've kept Big Sam until at least this season and God knows where we'd be by now. Let's not play the "what if" game. how has it improved ? It hasn't. Football is the same as it always was. All teams and clubs evolve, and the team of 1996 would still be in there chasing the title right to the end. If you honestly believe that the quality in the Premiership hasn't went up in the past decade, then you probably haven't been watching football at all. Which wouldn't surprise me. Wanking over pictures of Freddie Shepherd must take up a lot of your time. oh dear. Dragging the place down now aren't you How old are you exactly ? mackems.gif you made a childish post, and aren't mature enough to reply. Smashing, well done. (oh look, I've gone and done it again.)

well, if you think that, what DO you think is the reason ? Of course its because of the change of ownership. Ambitions and standards have dropped. Nothing else could cause your change of attitude. The fact that we've festered down here so long that we've used up any sort of good will we amassed during the Keegan and Robson eras. To incoming players, we're no longer a big club that's hit hard times, just another one of them s*** clubs. The fact that the rest of the PL has improved so drastically in the past few years that it's no longer just a matter of throwing together any half-decent squad to become "the best of the rest." We now have to leapfrog the likes of Villa and Everton who have already entrenched themselves as near permanent fixtures in the top six, Man City, who have infinite money, and Tottenham, the greatest f***ing club on Earth. The whole Keegan shitfest. I suppose this wouldn't have happened if Ashley wasn't the owner, I'll give you that. Then again, if Shepherd was still hear we probably would've kept Big Sam until at least this season and God knows where we'd be by now. Let's not play the "what if" game. how has it improved ? It hasn't. Football is the same as it always was. All teams and clubs evolve, and the team of 1996 would still be in there chasing the title right to the end. If you honestly believe that the quality in the Premiership hasn't went up in the past decade, then you probably haven't been watching football at all. Which wouldn't surprise me. Wanking over pictures of Freddie Shepherd must take up a lot of your time. oh dear. Dragging the place down now aren't you How old are you exactly ? mackems.gif (that was my attempt at a traditional NE5-style non response. Did I do good?)

Big, strong, has recently learned how to hold up the ball and use it to link up. Takes decent penalties.

This winter kind of reminds me of 2006-2007. We went into the winter thinking that we all thought we'd make some big signings because the squad was literally falling to pieces. Unfortunately, all we got was the Gooch on loan. January is just a bitch. Nobody wants to sell, everybody wants to buy. Unless you're rolling in cash it's a fairly safe bet that your club won't be doing any business. Personally I think we'll sell no-one and buy no-one (excluding various youngsters) this winter. And if that happened, I wouldn't be too bothered. We're not getting relegated this year unless something truly ridiculous happens. Summer is when you buy players. Experience has told me that you should never, ever expect anything from January.

well, if you think that, what DO you think is the reason ? Of course its because of the change of ownership. Ambitions and standards have dropped. Nothing else could cause your change of attitude. The fact that we've festered down here so long that we've used up any sort of good will we amassed during the Keegan and Robson eras. To incoming players, we're no longer a big club that's hit hard times, just another one of them s*** clubs. The fact that the rest of the PL has improved so drastically in the past few years that it's no longer just a matter of throwing together any half-decent squad to become "the best of the rest." We now have to leapfrog the likes of Villa and Everton who have already entrenched themselves as near permanent fixtures in the top six, Man City, who have infinite money, and Tottenham, the greatest f***ing club on Earth. The whole Keegan shitfest. I suppose this wouldn't have happened if Ashley wasn't the owner, I'll give you that. Then again, if Shepherd was still hear we probably would've kept Big Sam until at least this season and God knows where we'd be by now. Let's not play the "what if" game. how has it improved ? It hasn't. Football is the same as it always was. All teams and clubs evolve, and the team of 1996 would still be in there chasing the title right to the end. If you honestly believe that the quality in the Premiership hasn't went up in the past decade, then you probably haven't been watching football at all. Which wouldn't surprise me. Wanking over pictures of Freddie Shepherd must take up a lot of your time.

We can. It's just that when we do it we're a selling club without ambition. When Pompey do it it's "good business." As an aside, I really, really, really wouldn't want to be a Pompey fan right now. Redknapp took them on an amazing ride up from relegation favorites to an established top half side, and even won them the FA Cup while doing all that. But it's all come unhinged in a ridiculously short amount of time this year. They lose their manager, replace him with someone completely unqualified, slide back down near the relegation zone, and now they're selling their best player. What a come down. At least we've been shit for long enough that the success of the Robson era is only a distant memory. They fucking won the FA Cup last year, now they're relegation fodder again in just six months time. It must hurt.

well, if you think that, what DO you think is the reason ? Of course its because of the change of ownership. Ambitions and standards have dropped. Nothing else could cause your change of attitude. The fact that we've festered down here so long that we've used up any sort of good will we amassed during the Keegan and Robson eras. To incoming players, we're no longer a big club that's hit hard times, just another one of them s*** clubs. The fact that the rest of the PL has improved so drastically in the past few years that it's no longer just a matter of throwing together any half-decent squad to become "the best of the rest." We now have to leapfrog the likes of Villa and Everton who have already entrenched themselves as near permanent fixtures in the top six, Man City, who have infinite money, and Tottenham, the greatest fucking club on Earth. The whole Keegan shitfest. I suppose this wouldn't have happened if Ashley wasn't the owner, I'll give you that. Then again, if Shepherd was still hear we probably would've kept Big Sam until at least this season and God knows where we'd be by now. Let's not play the "what if" game.

Dear God, this sounds like an exam question

Dear me, even the media thinks Xisco doesn't exist now

Somebody please explain this joke. I keep seeing it and it's annoying not knowing the story behind it. Anyway I'd be delighted with Roy Hodgson, very impressed with what he's done with Fulham and would love to see us playing that sort of football. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,57178.0.html The first 5 pages or so should be sufficient.

During the Souness/Roeder era's, I honestly felt that "ah well, we've fucked up but one solid season of rebuilding and we'll be in the top six." Now? The best we can hope for in the short term right now is consolidating as lower-mid table club like Boro or Fulham. There is no light at the end of the tunnel. Barring something truly extraordinary, like a billionaire takeover or somehow stumbling upon the next great up-and-coming manager, I simply don't see us breaking into the top half any time in the foreseeable future. DISCLAIMER: No, I don't believe this has anything to do with change in ownership. Don't even try.

The Shola Ameobi testimonial Wonder how many tickets that'll sell.

I'm not unhappy with this. We do need squad players you know.

He has also been mentored by the Dalai Lama, is fluent in 24 languages including Swahili and Esperanto and is a registered Jedi Knight. He's Nile Ranger?

look on the bright side, at least it's not Butt.

May they keep doing so for all eternity.